Surefire B90 questions: shelf life

HKocher

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I use a SF 9AN for work, and carry a couple spares in my bag. The bag sits in the car, so the batteries are subjected to various temperatures.

I normally use the same battery and recharge it as needed. This battery was bought in '05, is marked CM17, has many recharge cycles on it, but it still works fine. The spares stay in the bag unless I need them. I occasionally take them out and throw them in the charger. They were both purchased in '06, are marked CP26, and have very few recharges on them. I store them in my bag with the plastic cap on the positive side, and nothing metal touches either end.

When I charge the batteries I use a SF charger, wait until I get the flashing green, remove them, and put them back in the charger until I get the flashing green for the second time. I read somewhere on this forum that this was the correct method.

Lately I've noticed, that whenever I pull the spares out, one or both of them are completely discharged. Can't remember the last time I charged them, but I'll guess it was one or two months ago. This is a reoccuring theme. Luckily I have a SF M2 as a backup light.

So is this normal? I thought that cold weather can drain batteries, but it has been very hot lately. Does heat have the same effect on batteries?

How long should I expect these batteries to hold charge, when sitting unused? Do extreme temps make a big difference? Do I have a bad batch of batteries?

While we're on the topic, how many recharge cycles should I expect to get out of a B90? And are there any good B90 replacement batteries out there?

*edited to add: My SF charger is marked CN400.
 
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NiCD cells have a 20% discharge rate per month! Also, you are wrong about cold temperature discharging cells. In fact, hot temperature increases self-discharge rate! And cold temperature decreases it. The problem with cold temperature is that NiCD tends to fall asleep and cannot deliver much current without the much voltage sag under load! They are best used, I would say, over 0 C and should not be stored at high temperatures (I would say over 30 C) if you don't want high self-discharge rate. Someone else could give better numbers...
 
Right now the only place you can really get B90's is from surefire. The good thing is that that they can have a very long life. I've have some that are 8 years old and still going strong. It seems if you got a bad battery, and there was a period when many were complaining about that, then it would show rather quickly. Otherwise they seem to do well for many years. I will say that tho my old batteries haven't lost much in the way of run time they do seem to discharge faster than they used to.
 
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