Surefire Counterfeits???

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Your good..

Not many Surefire clones...but there are some..I believe some chinese manf. have produced them and they usually sell at Kia/DX if I'm not mistaken...most seem to be a rip-off of the U2.
 
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Thanks for the reassurance! Most of these online run about $110 or better, so wanted to make sure I wasn't getting hurt!!
 
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DaFABRICATA, the counterfeit U2 is the first that the forum recognized and someone have had the opportunity to review it...from that review it became well known that China can copy the design well enough to look like real Surefires. Supposedly the 6P was the second, but I can't find any info that I can back it up with :ohgeez:

It seems to be the general rule [as reinforced by DM51] that pictures of, or threads relating to, or pertaining thereof be posted elsewhere..like the underground.:sick:

I've been trying to draw attention to the awareness of counterfeit surefires on the forum, but my posts have been modified or removed [thankfully by request, not forcefully] for some sort of forum violation. I don't question the rules, if thats what it is, no be it. :eek:

there is a link in Safe to get a SF M2 from Ebay? that shows what a fake M2 looks like;)
 
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I've seen counterfeit U2's and M2's, but the rest (so far) have just been clones, not counterfeits.
 
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I seem to remember seeing a Surefire weaponlight (M951 maybe) clone on Ebay back in December. The add heading had Surefire but the add said it was made in China and I think it said it was a Surefire plant there that made it.
 
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Marduke said:
I've seen counterfeit U2's and M2's, but the rest (so far) have just been clones, not counterfeits.
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What would be the difference between the fakes and the clones? :confused:

I just got an E2E I paid $50 for the other day and I'm sure it's a fake, mostly because it feels and appears different in color than any other Surefire I've seen, although the only other Surefires I have are an L1 and a Titan.
 
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Can you get a picture of the E2E?

There seems to be some Surefire clones but few full out Counterfiets(if you don't count eBay liars). There is the M2, U2, and M3 or M4 I think was also counterfeited. IIRC the M3 or M4 counterfeit had pretty good quality but it's still a counterfeit nonetheless.

Many lights seem to use a similar design or shape to a Surefire but that is usually the only design similarity(besides using a metal as the body and CR123s).
 
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I just looked for it and couldn't find it but I'll try again later tonight. I need to find who I got it from and talk to him about returning it too!

All the writing looks good and body shape, knurling, but there is just something wrong about it.
 
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kaichu dento said:
What would be the difference between the fakes and the clones? :confused:
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A fake is branded and marked identical to the real article, in an attempt to make the buyer think they are buying the genuine article. A clone is a light which looks very similar, but is branded under another name. It is obviously bought with the original in mind, but is in no way trying to pretend to be as such.

The SolarForce L2 is a good example of a clone, but is in no way a "fake". A fauxton is another good example of a clone.
 
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Marduke said:
A fake is branded and marked identical to the real article, in an attempt to make the buyer think they are buying the genuine article. A clone is a light which looks very similar, but is branded under another name. It is obviously bought with the original in mind, but is in no way trying to pretend to be as such.

The SolarForce L2 is a good example of a clone, but is in no way a "fake". A fauxton is another good example of a clone.
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In that case I either have a fake or am not very familiar with Surefire because my L1 reeks of quality and the E2E I just got is lacking all that and some. The only place it comes through is nice warm incan tint and if it is indeed a fake, they did a good job of it. I'll try to find it later and get a couple pics for you guys to see.
 
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Marduke said:
A fake [counterfeit] is branded and marked identical to the real article, in an attempt to make the buyer think they are buying the genuine article. A clone is a light which looks very similar, but is branded under another name. It is obviously bought with the original in mind, but is in no way trying to pretend to be as such.
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That is a fair way to describe the difference (I have added the word [counterfeit] in that quote).

As to forum policy, there is no prohibition on the discussion of counterfeit items as long as this is intended as a warning to members to beware of them. If discussion instead turns to promotion of these items by way of links or other material, that is when consideration will be given to closing it down.
 
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If you're concerned, you can always contact SF and check that serial number.

-Trevor
 
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I really like 'real' Surefires. Never had anything but 'real' Surefires when it comes to them.... Never dealt with ebay before, and have heard horror stories. So just wanted to see if there were any C2 fakes running around, so I could be on look out when it got here.

Thanks trevor, I may check it with Surefire customer when it gets here if it seems suspect!
 
jac2001 said:
Anybody aware of anyone trying to pass off counterfiet Surefire's on ebay? Never dealt with ebay before. Picked up a C2 Centurion BK for $66 shipped. (Malkoff's new home!!!:D)
Just hoping I haven't gotten ripped!
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i've bought a few SF's on ebay and they were all good. what i try to look for is that the seller has a 98% or better rating and NIB flashlights. anything less should be treated with more attention.
 
Got the pics of what I think is a fake E2E uploaded, but am still trying to figure out how to show them here from the Photobucket site. I'm going to have to try again after work...
 
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