SureFire EDC1-DFT and EDC2-DFT

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Is the stupid clip removable?
Yes, it slides out of the slot cut into the body. While I hated that style of clip, carrying the Aviator for a few weeks has helped me appreciate how it does work well in some instances. The two way setup allows for attachment to a baseball cap, also the clip will safely break away if caught and easily replaced. It's said SureFire will send replacement clips for free.
 

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Can someone speak to the performance of the surefire 18650 model to the Malkoff E2XT. I don't need one of these new surefires as I have green and white E2XT heads as well as a Malkoff hound dog, but like playing with lights at a buddies ranch when we hunt.
 

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Can someone speak to the performance of the surefire 18650 model to the Malkoff E2XT. I don't need one of these new surefires as I have green and white E2XT heads as well as a Malkoff hound dog, but like playing with lights at a buddies ranch when we hunt.
So, you want to know in a head to head match between your Malkoff E2XT and Hound Dog versus your buddies SF who will come out on top...does that sum up your situation? :)
 

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So, you want to know in a head to head match between your Malkoff E2XT and Hound Dog versus your buddies SF who will come out on top...does that sum up your situation? :)
No. My buddy doesn't spend money on stupid stuff like me. I had a super hound dog but sold it because for the jump in size it wasn't worth it to me over the standard hound dog. Also for more than decade I got 1/2 off surefires so I bought a bunch but my contact left SF so paying retail makes me have to think about it more than before.
 

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Crowd Sourcing.. Hope this is allowed by Mods.

Does any member knows who has the EDC1-DFT in HA (Gray) available and at best prices?

I got some info that an online-vendor at ARF is selling at $149 but in Black.

If comments in not allowed, kindly DM/PM me directly. Thanks.
 

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@akula88,, Comments are allowed these days...
Who is ARF?

Other than SF, all I know of is Brightguys. They are brick'n mortar and online sales. Although, BG are asking near msrp $225. In stock only Black or Tan. No natural HA ano.. yet
 

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Discounts?? Seems odd considering how brutally SureFire would crack down on any Authorized Dealer discounting their products. If that policy has changed, must be a very recent thing.
 

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I just received an EDC1-DFT yesterday. I have to say I'm impressed so far. No light I have compares in throw. Not my Fenix TK22 Tac, Magcharger, or anything else I can think of. It made my EDCL-2T look like it didn't throw all and yet still had enough spill to not feel like I was looking through a spotting scope.

I know many are unimpressed with Surefire of the last 10 years or so but this reminds me of the early 2000's when lurking and then joining CPF (originally my username was WDR65) and Surefire seemed to rule the compact throw market with incandescents like 12zm, M4, SRTH and several other turbo heads. LED's were pitiful in comparison and it's fun to see how the tables have turned.
 

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I think the EDC2-DFT is my next goal. I like the candela specs, but a little disappointed in the lumens spec. Oh well, you can't have everything. And if it achieves 100,000 candela with less lumens, maybe it will run longer and cooler, and won't burn out its LED like the Furies do. Hope so. I must say, SF sure has a high price tag on it though. Well, maybe the street price will be lower. If not, I may just have to wait for one of you to get bored with yours, and pick up a used one. 😄
 

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I ended up buying the EDC1 DFT when it was over 200 bucks, now I am seeing them for 168. (shakes fist in anger)
 

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Hi all,

There is a video out which has the full measured specs of the EDC2-DFT.

Can someone speak to the performance of the surefire 18650 model to the Malkoff E2XT. I don't need one of these new surefires as I have green and white E2XT heads as well as a Malkoff hound dog, but like playing with lights at a buddies ranch when we hunt.

Yes. Measured candela for the EDC2-DFT at 30 seconds is 104,100 candela for one sample and 100,500 candela for another.
For reference, Modlite OKW (18650 version, NOT the 21700 Hog) measured at 72,100 candela.
Malkoff E2XT (NOT the direct drive version) measured at 44,650 candela.

I was wondering if anyone could identify the emitter in this light. I suspect it to be the Osram CSLNMI.TG but was wondering if there was a way to be sure. I have another light with that emitter (the Emisar D1K) and noticed a few similarities.

Thanks!
 

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When I tragically lost my EB-1 Backup, I found they were no longer available. Panicking, I ordered the EDC-1 DFT; my need is for throw, and a narrow spot beam.

Well, this is not that. The throw is amazing, but the side spill splashed reflections from all over the landscape. Even so, I'll carry it. But I long for my long-gone original E1B, with little to no spill and a nice tight spot.

I picked up a backup from a guy here, but it had the obnoxious tailswitch that you have to rotate to lock on; also a progressive push to get to hi beam, neither feature is desirable for me.

The days when you could go to a mfr's site and have a nice layout of the various models, with all the important characteristics listed in an easy-to-evaluate form, appear to have become extinct. Digging thru all the hype, one model at a time, and trying to correlate the info to make a selection is a PITA.

What I want is:
*One cell cr123
*Tail pushbutton that gives mte hi beam then low beam, both momentary-on and click to lock, without having to screw around with both hands
*Tight spot beam with little or no spill
*Decent throw. The E1B was good, but I'd like even better.

It shouldn't be a big deal to find. I've been a Surefire fan for over a decade, but if anyone makes a comparably compact, reliable flash that meets my want list, I'd be all over it.

I admit to having a bunch of other Surefires, but none have been perfect for this one use.

When I was chasing power, I bought a SF Fury Intellibeam, thinking it would be The One, but again, all that spill. Turns out, though, that I misjudged its main usefulness; I found that it is the ideal around-the-house flash, thanks to the variable beam sensor thingy, which makes it very useful in close quarters, while still providing big output when needed.

Seemingly, the SF products that might be useful to me have one of two drawbacks: the damned wide-area flood that I despise, or the twisty tailcap that requires two hands. Damned if I can understand why anyone would want that; if you can control hi/lo and momentary/lock with one button, why devolve into something far less utilitarian? I guess there'll never be a future for me in Marketing.
 

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When I tragically lost my EB-1 Backup, I found they were no longer available. Panicking, I ordered the EDC-1 DFT; my need is for throw, and a narrow spot beam.

Well, this is not that. The throw is amazing, but the side spill splashed reflections from all over the landscape. Even so, I'll carry it. But I long for my long-gone original E1B, with little to no spill and a nice tight spot.

I picked up a backup from a guy here, but it had the obnoxious tailswitch that you have to rotate to lock on; also a progressive push to get to hi beam, neither feature is desirable for me.

The days when you could go to a mfr's site and have a nice layout of the various models, with all the important characteristics listed in an easy-to-evaluate form, appear to have become extinct. Digging thru all the hype, one model at a time, and trying to correlate the info to make a selection is a PITA.

What I want is:
*One cell cr123
*Tail pushbutton that gives mte hi beam then low beam, both momentary-on and click to lock, without having to screw around with both hands
*Tight spot beam with little or no spill
*Decent throw. The E1B was good, but I'd like even better.

It shouldn't be a big deal to find. I've been a Surefire fan for over a decade, but if anyone makes a comparably compact, reliable flash that meets my want list, I'd be all over it.

I admit to having a bunch of other Surefires, but none have been perfect for this one use.

When I was chasing power, I bought a SF Fury Intellibeam, thinking it would be The One, but again, all that spill. Turns out, though, that I misjudged its main usefulness; I found that it is the ideal around-the-house flash, thanks to the variable beam sensor thingy, which makes it very useful in close quarters, while still providing big output when needed.

Seemingly, the SF products that might be useful to me have one of two drawbacks: the damned wide-area flood that I despise, or the twisty tailcap that requires two hands. Damned if I can understand why anyone would want that; if you can control hi/lo and momentary/lock with one button, why devolve into something far less utilitarian? I guess there'll never be a future for me in Marketing.
You will be happy with the EDC1-DFT. I use it all the time, even though its a thrower it has enough outer spill so I can still see around things that dont have the spot on them.
 

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When I tragically lost my EB-1 Backup, I found they were no longer available. Panicking, I ordered the EDC-1 DFT; my need is for throw, and a narrow spot beam.

Well, this is not that. The throw is amazing, but the side spill splashed reflections from all over the landscape. Even so, I'll carry it. But I long for my long-gone original E1B, with little to no spill and a nice tight spot.

I picked up a backup from a guy here, but it had the obnoxious tailswitch that you have to rotate to lock on; also a progressive push to get to hi beam, neither feature is desirable for me.

The days when you could go to a mfr's site and have a nice layout of the various models, with all the important characteristics listed in an easy-to-evaluate form, appear to have become extinct. Digging thru all the hype, one model at a time, and trying to correlate the info to make a selection is a PITA.

What I want is:
*One cell cr123
*Tail pushbutton that gives mte hi beam then low beam, both momentary-on and click to lock, without having to screw around with both hands
*Tight spot beam with little or no spill
*Decent throw. The E1B was good, but I'd like even better.

It shouldn't be a big deal to find. I've been a Surefire fan for over a decade, but if anyone makes a comparably compact, reliable flash that meets my want list, I'd be all over it.

I admit to having a bunch of other Surefires, but none have been perfect for this one use.

When I was chasing power, I bought a SF Fury Intellibeam, thinking it would be The One, but again, all that spill. Turns out, though, that I misjudged its main usefulness; I found that it is the ideal around-the-house flash, thanks to the variable beam sensor thingy, which makes it very useful in close quarters, while still providing big output when needed.

Seemingly, the SF products that might be useful to me have one of two drawbacks: the damned wide-area flood that I despise, or the twisty tailcap that requires two hands. Damned if I can understand why anyone would want that; if you can control hi/lo and momentary/lock with one button, why devolve into something far less utilitarian? I guess there'll never be a future for me in Marketing.
Perhaps you'd be better off with a very compact LEP.
The Mini LEP Cosmos by Maratac might be ideal for your needs. Not CR123-based but 14500 (AA) - based. Might be worth a look. Check out Countycomm.com
 

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I picked up a backup from a guy here, but it had the obnoxious tailswitch that you have to rotate to lock on; also a progressive push to get to hi beam, neither feature is desirable for me.
I believe that you are describing the finest tail cap that has ever existed (IMHO), the SureFire "gas pedal" tail cap

Did I mention that (IMHO) that's the FINEST tail cap/switch that has ever existed?

In case you missed it, the SureFire "gas pedal" tail cap is the finest (IMHO) that has ever existed

Seemingly, the SF products that might be useful to me have one of two drawbacks: the damned wide-area flood that I despise, or the twisty tailcap that requires two hands. Damned if I can understand why anyone would want that;
You do understand that SureFire produces mostly "Tactical" flashlights

A "Tactical" flashlight works best when you can "flash and move", which is what the "twisty" tail cap was developed for, it minimizes the chance of the flashlight being "on" when it is least wanted/needed
 
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