SUREFIRE EDCL-2T

Lou Minescence

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Recieved mine today. My first new Surefire. Sent UPS 2nd day air. Haven’t tried it in the dark yet. I have been experimenting with CR123 batteries at various levels of discharge. It seems both the high and low output are effected by the state of battery charge. Lower battery charge gives lower overall output.
The light feels great in hand.
 

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Recieved mine today. My first new Surefire. Sent UPS 2nd day air. Haven’t tried it in the dark yet. I have been experimenting with CR123 batteries at various levels of discharge. It seems both the high and low output are effected by the state of battery charge. Lower battery charge gives lower overall output.
The light feels great in hand.

Will the light run off of a 17670?
 

Lou Minescence

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Will the light run off of a 17670?

I have a 176070 AW and an keepower 16650. They both fit. Both are charged to 3.7 volts because I haven’t been using them. When I operate the light it is only operating at maximum. No low or dimmer output. It is as if the light sees the low voltage and is not regulating the led output for a low. I guess some others here have posted they have used lithium ion batteries with success but I wonder about their results when the batteries get low in charge like these batteries are.
 

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Does this light really throw less than the EB2 and E2DL-Ultra on primaries? If so, that is very disappointing given that this is marketed towards the self-defense crowd and has insufficient run-time on high to qualify as a general purpose light.
 
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Does this light really throw less than the EB2 and E2DL-Ultra on primaries? If so, that is very disappointing given that this is marketed towards the self-defense crowd and has insufficient run-time on high to qualify as a general purpose light.

From the beamshots posted by Jose Marin, the hotspot is much wider, meaning it will be easier to hit the eyes of those you defend yourself against, and it will be easier to see if there are other bad guys lurking in the shadows. And you may also be able to blind multiple bad guys at the same time. So I think it may be a better self defense light than those. I don't think the lower throw will matter in a self defense situation, if 11 klux isn't enough to blind them, then 18 klux will probably not be enough either.
It will be interesting to see how it compares to the Tactician.
 

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I don't think the lower throw will matter in a self defense situation, if 11 klux isn't enough to blind them, then 18 klux will probably not be enough either.

I was using "throw" to refer to generally illuminance (lux) at a given distance. You make fair points, but my hope was that a light that emits double the output of the E2DL Ultra out of an optic would at least match the throw!
 

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I was using "throw" to refer to generally illuminance (lux) at a given distance. You make fair points, but my hope was that a light that emits double the output of the E2DL Ultra out of an optic would at least match the throw!

The "problem" is that if you double the diameter of the hotspot, then you need 4 times the output to achieve the same intensity (lux). So if you double the diameter and double the output, then you will only get half the lux.
How the size of the EDCL-2T hotspot compares to the EB2 hotspot I don't know, how much light goes into the spill also matters.
 

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A page or so ago some pix from Balistic Radio facebook page had some official law man use type photos. To me they looked like an EB2 on steroids. ie similar throw with absolutely positively going to blind every perp in a 75' wide swath at 100 feet.

How that equates on some numbers on some chart or graph? Got me. But I feel confident that in a all-hell-breaking loose situation where some bad guys are lurking in a garage somewhere at least a few will be thinking "holy retina melt, I'll surrender if you just turn off that dam flashlight"....
 
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teak

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A page or so ago some pix from Balistic Radio facebook page had some official law man use type photos. To me they looked like an EB2 on steroids. ie similar throw with absolutely positively going to blind every perp in a 75' wide swath at 100 feet.

How that equates on some numbers on some chart or graph? Got me. But I feel confident that in a all-hell-breaking loose situation where some bad guys are lurking in a garage somewhere at least a few will be thinking "holy retina melt, I'll surrender if you just turn off that dam flashlight"....
Yes. Numbers are great and all but actual use is the determining factor. One day we all will get ours. [emoji14]
 

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I received mine on Wednesday. I also have the 600 lumen E2DL Ultra. The throw may be slightly further with the EDCL2-T, but the beam/hotspot is significantly wider. The E2DL Ultra has a much more concentrated beam (which I really like for certain applications). The wider beam of the EDCL2-T is actually quite nice, and I see myself utilizing this more for certain work related tasks. Sorry I don't have any pics yet comparing the beamshots.
 

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I had the opportunity to use my preproduction example to defuse a potentially violent encounter a few weeks ago. It worked very (very) well in the real world role that I had envisioned when we were first discussing the idea for the light, and garnered a positive (to me) reaction from the individual in question.

If you’re interested in turning on “day time” at will in a small swath of the world, and would like to do so in a package that is actually pocketable, I think this is the light for you.
 

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SF dealer in the Netherlands, has this one in stock. Bit odd, since it normally takes around 4-7 months before they've 'new' lights in their stock[emoji14]Have read the entire thread again, and got a mix feeling about this light. Output and UI is great. But the fact that it pulls that much from those CR123s, and the (poor) runtime, gives it a bad taste. 16340s fit, but give even less runtime. 16650 fit, but gives less output.
 

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That is actually a very reasonable price to pay in EU. Maybe I would even order one from them? :thinking:. But I have the same mixed feelings about this flashlight as you, I am probably going to wait for a detailed review including runtime graphs.
 

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SF dealer in the Netherlands, has this one in stock. Bit odd, since it normally takes around 4-7 months before they've 'new' lights in their stock[emoji14]Have read the entire thread again, and got a mix feeling about this light. Output and UI is great. But the fact that it pulls that much from those CR123s, and the (poor) runtime, gives it a bad taste. 16340s fit, but give even less runtime. 16650 fit, but gives less output.

I am sorry, may you name the dealer? Please? :)
 

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Noorloos Specialist Equipment.

Thank you so much!

P.S.: They’ve got really old Surefires :)

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