Tachead
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Teak, is there any way you could post a white wall beam shot of the two so we can better see the difference in beam profiles? Thanks.
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Sure. Will do that this evening.
Tachead
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Thank you sir
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vadimax
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If the ceiling is white, Surefire has done an excellent job (if my color blindness doesn’t play a trick on me).
xdayv
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@teak - thanks for the beamshots, indeed the EDCL1-T has a tighter beam.
Yes. Ceiling is white. Only white I have in my house. [emoji2] both tints are good with me. When using the edcl1, I feel the beam pattern is very close to what a reflector provides. Its not as tight as the eb1 or lx2 even. In real world use it is very close to a reflector light.
Thanks for the pix. Your words had already confirmed things, with the pix being icing on the cake as it were.
When I first read about the 2 my thought was "man, if those 1200 lumens are pencil beam like my EB1c... I'll be able to light a stop sign 2 zip codes away". But then early beam shots by JJ showed it wasn't going to be some HID Batman signaler deal so I jumped in the pool and sent SureFire some $ with no idea when it would actually be mailed out.
Curiosity may win out with the 1 at some point, to see if it will light a stop sign in the next county but for now it looks like the beam is a lot like my EB1c, just brighter. Plus the EB1c dims for a long time instead of "uh oh, outta fuel" insta-darkness.
When I first read about the 2 my thought was "man, if those 1200 lumens are pencil beam like my EB1c... I'll be able to light a stop sign 2 zip codes away". But then early beam shots by JJ showed it wasn't going to be some HID Batman signaler deal so I jumped in the pool and sent SureFire some $ with no idea when it would actually be mailed out.
Curiosity may win out with the 1 at some point, to see if it will light a stop sign in the next county but for now it looks like the beam is a lot like my EB1c, just brighter. Plus the EB1c dims for a long time instead of "uh oh, outta fuel" insta-darkness.
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Tachead
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Thanks Teak.
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Tachead
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The tint on the EDCL2-T looks pretty good but, the EDCL1-T has a pretty ugly greenish tint especially in the high mode pic(if those pics are accurately portraying it).
I wonder if it is using a different emitter and that accounts for the different beam profile and tint? Do the optics look the same or different Teak?
Vox Clamatis in Deserto
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No complaints from me on the EDCL2-T tint. It's creamy white to my eye with a nicely blended golden corona. The EB1-MV has a similar even smoother white beam in my view.
I don't (yet :naughty
have an EDCL1-T but other SureFire handheld lights like the UM-2, EB1 and EB2 look coke bottle green :green: in comparison to the EDCL2-T and EB1-MV. The green tint on the older lights seems more pronounced at lower power settings in my casual observation.As mentioned on another thread, the (Fraen?) TIR optic in the EDCL2-T appears to be identical to the one in a late model EB2C. I need to find one of my EB1's for comparison, is it the same optic as well?
IMightBeWrong
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I picked up the EDCL1-T and got it the other day in the mail. I have been relying on the 200 Lumen EB1 2-Stage as my edc for years. I love the TIR throw. I was excited to see SureFire announce the EDCL1 on Facebook and ordered one pretty quickly. Now that I have both, I’m glad I bought it but it really isn’t as much an upgrade as I hoped. The throw is lesser than the 200 Lumen EB1 which actually still slightly out-throws it and appears brighter in its hot spot when I shine both beams on the same spot. I like the EDCL1 still, though, because it has almost just as much candela due to the added brightness but also has a wider field of view. I’m not as excited as I would have been for the 500 Lumens and more candela/throw but it still provides some advantage and I could still call it an upgrade.
Now I’m just curious if the EDCL2 would actually put-throw my 500 Lumen Defender Ultra. If not, maybe the Tactician would be more worth the money. The 1hr EDXL2 runtime on 2 cells isn’t the most exciting feature of the light considering that past 2 Cell lights had double the runtime.
Now I’m just curious if the EDCL2 would actually put-throw my 500 Lumen Defender Ultra. If not, maybe the Tactician would be more worth the money. The 1hr EDXL2 runtime on 2 cells isn’t the most exciting feature of the light considering that past 2 Cell lights had double the runtime.
Tachead
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No complaints from me on the EDCL2-T tint. It's creamy white to my eye with a nicely blended golden corona. The EB1-MV has a similar even smoother white beam in my view.
I don't (yet :naughty
As mentioned on another thread, the (Fraen?) TIR optic in the EDCL2-T appears to be identical to the one in a late model EB2C. I need to find one of my EB1's for comparison, is it the same optic as well?
Good to know. Thanks for the added input:thumbsup:.
I am currently trying to decide between the EDCL1-T, E1B MV, and Tactician. I think the EDCL2-T is out for me due to its crazy length. It is just too long for me personally. I think buying both the Tactician and the E1B MV eventually might be nice. They should be fun to lego and I think the Tactician body with the E1B MV head would be a cool combo and offer a great runtime and perfectly flat regulated output on a 16650. A micro Tactician running on 16340 would be pretty cool too.
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Yes optics are the same. The high output on the edcl1 isnt as green as the pic portrays. Its actually pretty white. I do feel the edcl2 has a better tint though. I also figured they used the same led but with the difference in beam patterns something has got to be different.
The 2-T is like carrying a 2xAA light TacHead. I'd have to speculate it's girth would be like a 2AA MDC because I only have the 1x version. But in terms of length it's very similar to a minimag if you are familiar with that one.
Between the head and lengthy tailcap it takes up a lot more real estate than an incan E2E.
Between the head and lengthy tailcap it takes up a lot more real estate than an incan E2E.
Tachead
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Ok, thanks Teak, good to know
. Yeah, if they used different sized emitters that could account for the beam difference or maybe just the distance they mounted it from the optic?
Tachead
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Ok, that helps me get a grasp on how big it is in real life. I don't have an MDC AA body but, I am definitely familiar with the Minimag as it was my favorite EDC(Belt holster carried) for many years way back long before LED's were invented and before I even knew who Surefire was(gotta love the Minimag).
Yeah, I think it may be a bit too long for me although it does look pretty slim(body and tailcap wise at least). I would like to stay in E2E territory or smaller. I will keep pondering but, I am leaning towards trying a MV light as I think the floody beam will better suit its intended use. I have a Zebralight SC600w MKIV HI on the way if I need a bit of punch and if I need more then that I will likely go with one of the Malkoff Hound Dogs.
Thanks Bykfixer
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I opted for the 2-T for the ability to have a small flashlight that shines like one of those patrol car mounted lights. lol.
For times you absolutely positively need to blind a mob the size of a football field goal post to goal post, sideline to sideline.
I bought it to shine down into 50 foot deep manholes during the daytime.
After reading what folks say in the various "new" SureFire threads it seems max vision is very well suited for many applications where max reach is not paramount.
Until the 2-T bug bit my intention was one of those Tactician lights with it's front end hi/lo feature and a lanyard attachment.
Lack of availability allowed enough time to pass where I decided that one wasn't the one for me.
I carry a 2AA Pelican 2360 at times so I knew the 2-T would be ok. If SureFire had ever done an E3E folks who liked that would feel like the EDCL2-T was a version of that. lol.
Here it is versus a 3 cell Vital Gear with E series incan head.
I suppose the EDCL1-T and the Tactician would be more like the feel of the E2E with modern output.
For times you absolutely positively need to blind a mob the size of a football field goal post to goal post, sideline to sideline.
I bought it to shine down into 50 foot deep manholes during the daytime.
After reading what folks say in the various "new" SureFire threads it seems max vision is very well suited for many applications where max reach is not paramount.
Until the 2-T bug bit my intention was one of those Tactician lights with it's front end hi/lo feature and a lanyard attachment.
Lack of availability allowed enough time to pass where I decided that one wasn't the one for me.
I carry a 2AA Pelican 2360 at times so I knew the 2-T would be ok. If SureFire had ever done an E3E folks who liked that would feel like the EDCL2-T was a version of that. lol.
Here it is versus a 3 cell Vital Gear with E series incan head.
I suppose the EDCL1-T and the Tactician would be more like the feel of the E2E with modern output.
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Modernflame
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Definitely the right tool, but I'd be terrified of dropping it. Just out of curiosity, how long do you need to illuminate those manholes? A few seconds? Minutes? I suppose I'm still trying to figure out when and how much the light steps down.
Edit: I see your lanyard. That would resolve the fear of dropping it. I don't use lanyards much, but I can see that you require them for your job.
Usually less than 5 minutes Mr. Flame. As an inspector I don't need to light them very long typically. Someone said at around 1.5 minutes the draw dropped dramatically so I'd suppose that's about when the thermal thing does it's role. I don't recall if they stated output numbers but iirc the draw went from 3.5amps!!!! to like 1.8.
Yes 3.5 amps at startup.
I bought an Elzetta Bones for the same use and it does pretty good at around 675 lumens. So if it steps down to the 6-700's it'll probably be ok.
And yes, a lanyard is a must for things like that.
Yes 3.5 amps at startup.
I bought an Elzetta Bones for the same use and it does pretty good at around 675 lumens. So if it steps down to the 6-700's it'll probably be ok.
And yes, a lanyard is a must for things like that.
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