Surefire M2 Centurion head

[Policetacteam]

Heat issues are not really a worry for me because my lights rarely run continuously for that long! They do get a healthy work out but I cannot think of a time they ran continuously for anything longer than 40 minutes. I think its good to be aware of the mechanical limitations of gear but I think the M2 head is good to go with the high output Malkoff's. That's just my opinion and not scientifically based. Just one man's observations through actual field use!

 

[CLHC]

Heat issues are not really a worry for me because my lights rarely run continuously for that long! They do get a healthy work out but I cannot think of a time they ran continuously for anything longer than 40 minutes. I think its good to be aware of the mechanical limitations of gear but I think the M2 head is good to go with the high output Malkoff's. That's just my opinion and not scientifically based. Just one man's observations through actual field use!

Well put! :thumbsup:

 

[KROMATICS]

Don't forget the M2 head is also available in HA-BK as M600 Scoutlight parts:twothumbs

It seems that the Z32 is available in the M2 style but in type-II anodizing? (1) and (2) seem to be claiming that but every place online that comes up in my search for Z32 shows the old pre-M2 style. How do I know what I'm getting? It's not shown on the Surefire website outside of the LU60A which appears to be HA-III and more expensive as it's part of the kit. No Z32 to be found anywhere on the site either. When I call they tell me they don't sell flashlight parts separately.

So there is the following as far as I can tell:

M2 head in Type-III (HA) NA as part of the LU60
M2 head in Type-III (HA) BK as part of the LU60A
M2 head in Type-II BK as "Z32 Shockproof Bezel Pyrex Window Version"

Is this right? Does anyone know where I can get the last one on that list?

 

[Owen]

Direct from SF.
M2 head in Type-III (HA)
part #: 13586-1
M2 head in Type-II BK
part #: 13586-11-this is not the Z32

Black type II actually costs a little more than the HA one, as I recall.

 

[KROMATICS]

Direct from SF.
M2 head in Type-III (HA)
part #: 13586-1
M2 head in Type-II BK
part #: 13586-11-this is not the Z32

Black type II actually costs a little more than the HA one, as I recall.

Thanks. So are both of these black, one type-II and the other type-III (HA) then?

I know there is a black one as part of the LU60A conversion kit that is supposed to be hard anodized and a natural/olive drab one that is hard anodized as part of LU60 (same as stock on the M2) or at least I think so...

EDIT: It seems 13586-11 goes back at least as far as 2004 so I doubt it could be the new style M2 head.

 

[Owen]

Natural HA(stock M2) 13586-1
Black Type II 13586-11
The part numbers didn't change, they just discontinued the old style(presumably) when they began production of the new.
Just to confirm, I've ordered both new and old style with those part #s. SF was out of the black, but the nat-HA I got last time I ordered was the new one. Now if I could hold onto a couple instead of selling them off whenever I realize I don't need them right now...

I don't know the part # for the black HA version.

 

[KROMATICS]

I ordered some modern M2 style bezels as "Z32", "13586-11" and as part of the "LU60A" lamp module.

The first two were the same despite the bags being labeled differently and a slight price difference. One has the "caution hot surface" laser etching aligned correctly (most don't seem to?) which could indicate it was from another batch. That might be the "13586-11" one but I wasn't paying attention. Both are type-II black.

The one that came with the LU60A however is most definitely type-III (hard anodized) black.

So they do make THREE versions of the modern M2 style bezel. Type-II Black / Type-III Black / Type-III OD/Natural

 

[ElectronGuru]

Here's a new family photo:

 

[DimeRazorback]

 

[gstrand]

OK, I just found this, and am glad I did... 🙂

I recently came in to owning a Strider M2 (#282.) It came without the original head, but with a KL5. I put a Z58 tailcap on it since I like clicky, and am good... I think... but I've been contemplating a P60 dropin and regular (C2 HA) front end... Would it get me anything seriously better than the KL5? Just looking for opinions...

It's a great light as is - I've since gotten rid of my 6p, 9p and a C2... just because I never use them anymore.

 

[kelmo]

Mine looks like that one except in HAIII, its a M2 with a Z48 switch . I think we have different lanyard attachments though. Thats a real beauty you got there KROMATICS!

If only Surefire would drop a regulator circuit in the Z48 tailcap assembly. There appears to be plenty of room for one.

We can dream can't we?!

 

[jp2515]

:thumbsup: Awesome! Is that a Z2/Z3 with a Z49?

 

[ElectronGuru]

jp,

Here's a little inspiration:

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Dan

 

[jp2515]

jp,

Here's a little inspiration:

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Dan

AWESOME!

:thumbsup::twothumbs

 

[ElectronGuru]

So thats an M2 with Z48, Z2 with M2 bezel and Z49, and finally a C2 with M2 bezel and Z49. Grey/Black/Black.

 

[ElectronGuru]

Quick update. Here's a comparison shot with popular bezels:

I found a reliable source of type II black M2 bezels, but gave up trying to find HA black, so I'm making my own.

 

[Solscud007]

really? why? just go buy the LU60A.

http://www.surefire.com/LU60A-Incandescent-Lamp-Module

it will always be HA BK. jsut call surefire to confirm.

 

[ElectronGuru]

Interesting. Do I have this right? Thats an M2 bezel with E to C adaptor??

 

[QtrHorse]

I'm curious to know as well.


Edit:

Looks like after a little research, the LU60A is a M2 head with a E to C adaptor.

I had always thought the LU60 combo had male threads on the opposite end. It looks like the new LU60A has female threads now and the older LU60 with male threads is discontinued.

 

[Size15's]

The LU60 is the Lamp Module used by the M95 WeaponLight.
It is the "Millennium Series" version of the L60.
the LU60 features a Lamp Module Adapter Collar that screws into WeaponLight Housings (such as the MH90), or even the U2 body.
Since the M95 is still a live product the LU60 is too.

The LU60A is the Lamp Module intended for the M600 ScoutLight WeaponLight.
It features a Lamp Module Adapter Collar that screws onto the ScoutLight Housing Body (MH60) which also happens to be the same threads as the E-Series bodies.

Aftermarket "E2C" adapters perform a similar function to the LU60A Lamp Module Adapter Collar which is to allow a standard bezel to mate with an E-Series body.

The LU60 is natural HA because the Millennium Series is.
The LU60A is Black HA because the ScoutLight is.

Al 🙂