Surefire M6 Lumensfactory HO-M6R combo question

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I am thinking about getting a couple three HO-M6R lamps and have a couple quick questions. On LF's site they say that it's ok to run 6 3.7v RCR123's, wouldn't that hot flash the lamp since it's 13v's?

How does this lamp compare to surefires MN21 500 lumen lamp and are there any other lamps that I can run with 6 3.7v RCR123's?





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Hi Buz,

I believe the MB20 battery holder gives you 2 parallel sets of
3 batteries i.e theoretically (3.7*6)/2 = 11.1 volts or with max
nominal voltages (~4.19*6)/2 = 12.57 volts. So within spec for the bulb.
I have not seen any reported instaflash problems anyway?

Performance wise it's very competitive against the MN21.

DM51 has a great post SureFire M6 rechargeable options – SHOOTOUT showing comparison shots.

Also note that with 3 *17670 and FM's battery holder the HO-M6R is even brighter again :devil:
 
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Woops: Gallagho beat me to it :)


The 6 cell adapters that is used in your M6 has cells wired 2 parallel, 3 series.

The MN20 and MN21 are ~7.5V and ~6.6V bulbs, respectively.

So when loaded with 3.7V cells, you get ~11.1V to work with. As it turns out, if you look at the spec sheet for the M series lamps on LFs website, the HO-M6R is a 10.8V bulb.

BUZ from the future said:
So then why do they call it a 13V lamp?

Tactical lamps have 2 different voltage ratings.

1. The voltage rating that Joe Public can understand, Joe sees a 3V cell, sees that his flashlight takes 3 of them, does a little 2x2=4 and decides he needs a 9V lamp.

2. The actual bulb design voltage... Under the load of a bulb, primary CR123s do not actually deliver anywhere near 3.0V of potential, after losses from cell resistance, they deliver ~2.2-2.6V depending on the specific load in question. They design the bulb with this in mind. Most "9V" lamps as described in #1 above are actually ~6.6-7.6V lamps depending on how much current the bulb is expected to draw.


Now think about this- There are a number of "12V" tactical lamps out there for 4xCR123 tactical lights, after losses from resistance, most of them actually operate in the 9-10V range. Bulbs designed to run on 3xli-ion cells need to be close to an 11V design, so when designating the bulb for use with 3xli-ion cell, it would not be smart to call it an 11V, or 12V bulb, instead, you call it a 13V bulb... this way people will not start to think that any 12V tactical lamp assembly out there could potentially work with 3xli-ion cells, because it often will not work. (can blow the lamp).
 

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