SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III's
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Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Hey guys,
I added some close beam shots (a good friend asked for them so what the heck):
At about 4":
At about 8":
And finally at about 2 feet:
I think you can see that the three beams overlap and continue on as a single beam at a very close distance. The parallax of only about 1" has no bearing on any real use of the light. It is about 3 times as bright as a single III driven at 917 mA. This is the brightest and still reasonably useful beam LED light I have. I do have another with higher a higher Lux reading but it is strictly a pencil beam.
The PK1 was mentioned and I must state that it would most likely kick this lights butt! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif The 5W X bin in it probably puts out more lumens and the 4" reflector manages the photons well!! Certainly the PK1 has a higher lux reading than this light. This light might have more reach, slightly off axis and still in the combined beams section, than the PK1 would. The PK1 is a wonderful blend of light and use of the Side Emitter. It is the reigning king!
Hey guys,
I added some close beam shots (a good friend asked for them so what the heck):
At about 4":
At about 8":
And finally at about 2 feet:
I think you can see that the three beams overlap and continue on as a single beam at a very close distance. The parallax of only about 1" has no bearing on any real use of the light. It is about 3 times as bright as a single III driven at 917 mA. This is the brightest and still reasonably useful beam LED light I have. I do have another with higher a higher Lux reading but it is strictly a pencil beam.
The PK1 was mentioned and I must state that it would most likely kick this lights butt! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif The 5W X bin in it probably puts out more lumens and the 4" reflector manages the photons well!! Certainly the PK1 has a higher lux reading than this light. This light might have more reach, slightly off axis and still in the combined beams section, than the PK1 would. The PK1 is a wonderful blend of light and use of the Side Emitter. It is the reigning king!
Rothrandir
Flashaholic
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
what a cool beam! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
what a cool beam! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Alan,
I actually had a few ides with this mod but not knowing how or if it would turn out, I kept it simple. I had considered an alternate switch for 1, 2 and 3 on as well as clustered Nichias. I even considered one red and two white as a two circuit program. I didn't consider mixing the 5W with the III's but after seeing the results, I think that's a good idea you have there! The resultant beam would have been more like the PK1 as I recall it. The M6 pak could certainly handle the demand of a 5 and the two III's. Almost makes me want to make another. There might be some thermal issues though.
Alan,
I actually had a few ides with this mod but not knowing how or if it would turn out, I kept it simple. I had considered an alternate switch for 1, 2 and 3 on as well as clustered Nichias. I even considered one red and two white as a two circuit program. I didn't consider mixing the 5W with the III's but after seeing the results, I think that's a good idea you have there! The resultant beam would have been more like the PK1 as I recall it. The M6 pak could certainly handle the demand of a 5 and the two III's. Almost makes me want to make another. There might be some thermal issues though.
Stainless
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
"Dear Surefire warranty department... "
"Dear Surefire warranty department... "
ufokillerz
Enlightened
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
[ QUOTE ]
Stainless said:
"Dear Surefire warranty department... "
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it should be
"Dear Surefire development department..."
[ QUOTE ]
Stainless said:
"Dear Surefire warranty department... "
[/ QUOTE ]
it should be
"Dear Surefire development department..."
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Hi guys,
I decided to resurect this thread instead of a new one. I just wanted to comment that last night, I modified the tail switch on this light and now have a two stage with a "low" as well as the high. It works great! (same function as the A2/L1 switch) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Low: 470 lux (1 meter)
High: 7570 lux (1 meter)**
The mod consists of one of my prototype two stage assemblies embedded in the stock tail switch components. When I get the production parts, I will post images of the switch assembly as well as a couple mods I have done that can extend the range of use. I realize that this post is premature and probably not very nice but I couldn't help myself! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
** The lux reading is not 3X the typical 917 PR output and more like 2X what you would expect. This is due to the paralax and the fact that at one meter, the beam spot of this light is larger than a single PR. However at distance, the beam stays coherent and would likely measure 3X the output of a single PR-917.
Hi guys,
I decided to resurect this thread instead of a new one. I just wanted to comment that last night, I modified the tail switch on this light and now have a two stage with a "low" as well as the high. It works great! (same function as the A2/L1 switch) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Low: 470 lux (1 meter)
High: 7570 lux (1 meter)**
The mod consists of one of my prototype two stage assemblies embedded in the stock tail switch components. When I get the production parts, I will post images of the switch assembly as well as a couple mods I have done that can extend the range of use. I realize that this post is premature and probably not very nice but I couldn't help myself! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
** The lux reading is not 3X the typical 917 PR output and more like 2X what you would expect. This is due to the paralax and the fact that at one meter, the beam spot of this light is larger than a single PR. However at distance, the beam stays coherent and would likely measure 3X the output of a single PR-917.
naromtap
Enlightened
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
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dat2zip said:
That 2nd beam shot is a wankel engine!
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Good one dat2zip! lol
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dat2zip said:
That 2nd beam shot is a wankel engine!
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Good one dat2zip! lol
jtice
Flashaholic
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Wish I had a crap load of money,,, I would offer it all to you for that mod. lol
MAN, that IS a NICE mod now!!!!!!!
Wish I had a crap load of money,,, I would offer it all to you for that mod. lol
MAN, that IS a NICE mod now!!!!!!!
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Don, is the full output the same with the new two-stage tailcap as it was with a stock one stage? Thanks
-Mike
Don, is the full output the same with the new two-stage tailcap as it was with a stock one stage? Thanks
-Mike
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Don, was this the same light you had at the SHOT show? If so, I can honestly say it was one of the coolest lights I got to see. Kudos also on your courage to willingly risk the damage on a SF M6.
Don, was this the same light you had at the SHOT show? If so, I can honestly say it was one of the coolest lights I got to see. Kudos also on your courage to willingly risk the damage on a SF M6.
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Steve,
Same light but now I don't feel so bad about using it more. I won't be eating batteries as much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I did add the crenelated bezel to it so I would know when it was on, even if it was face down. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif and I took it swimming when I visited your fine state!
Steve,
Same light but now I don't feel so bad about using it more. I won't be eating batteries as much. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I did add the crenelated bezel to it so I would know when it was on, even if it was face down. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif and I took it swimming when I visited your fine state!
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
Sorry to go off-topic, but you make a fine choice in going to Maui. It's such a beautiful island as I'm sure know. It may be the most scenic of the ones I've seen (even though I live here I haven't visited them all). One day I was at Wailea in the afternoon and it's like you died and went to heaven.
Sorry to go off-topic, but you make a fine choice in going to Maui. It's such a beautiful island as I'm sure know. It may be the most scenic of the ones I've seen (even though I live here I haven't visited them all). One day I was at Wailea in the afternoon and it's like you died and went to heaven.
tvodrd
*Flashaholic* ,
Re: SureFire M6 with 3X Luxeon III\'s
I got to try that sucker at the SHOT party. I suspect we annoyed some residents at the party location. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Larry
I got to try that sucker at the SHOT party. I suspect we annoyed some residents at the party location. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Larry
