Surefires in CPF

[GreySave]

LOL. I voted four but then realized I missed one.

U2
Kroma
L4
E2L
E2DL

Essentially tried to cover the field. Flood, throw, runtime, and multi color. I can carry the U2 and either of the E2s and cover the bases fairly well.

 

[Federal LG]

I don't mean to clutter this up, but I have a feeling I am not alone in this.
I've had maybe 25+. Currently have 7.
Thing is, none of them are in stock form. They all have parts from other lights, accessories, aftermarket bulbs, drop-ins, mods, etc.
So, technically I have 0???
I'm not sure if that serves the purpose of the poll or not😕

I think there are mods and mods.

A minor mod is still a Surefire, IMHO.

But if you changed LED, driver, reflector, TIR, windows, tailclickie, anodization, etc, etc... Is it still a Surefire, just because it got engraved "SUREFIRE" in light´s body ?

I think CPFers would know if their lights still have "Surefire essence" or if they are completely modded.

Anyway, vote according your conscience. We both know this kind of vote does not have cientifical value, because we´re working on people´s sense of truth.

If I vote for 10, and I just have 1, there is no way to prove that...

Have fun! :wave:

 

[Federal LG]

Wow!

Take a look at post #16 !!

:twothumbs

I guess Surefire should start listening CPFers... There are thousands of SF lights in CPFer´s hands!!

 

[Monocrom]

Ohh yea, wheres DaFab?

Back on page 1, as the first reply. 😀

 

[brighterisbetter]

I've had maybe 25+. Currently have 7.
Thing is, none of them are in stock form.

This would make for an interesting poll by itself. "Of your SF collection, what percentage of them are currently bone stock?"

In my book, they are all Surefires, and they were all bought in stock configuration.

I agree. I do think though the primary component that makes a SF a SF, when you're lego'ing stuff together, is the body itself. Sure you can put in a Malkoff, switch the bezel for a Solarforce, tailcap for a G&P, etc......but as long as it still has that SF logo engraved on the side of the body, I'll consider it one.

 

[Oddjob]

Got my first one last week. It is an E1L 2 stage and so far I'm really liking it. It's nice to have a little throw in my collection. Even though it has a very distinct hotspot vs the beams I am accustomed to using I am still finding it very useful.

 

[Federal LG]

I do think though the primary component that makes a SF a SF, when you're lego'ing stuff together, is the body itself. Sure you can put in a Malkoff, switch the bezel for a Solarforce, tailcap for a G&P, etc......but as long as it still has that SF logo engraved on the side of the body, I'll consider it one.

Think this way... If you´re holding your modded Surefire, and someone ask you: Which light is that ?

What you´ll gonna answer ?

If you would answer: It´s a Surefire (even if it was modded), than go for vote!

 

[gsxrac]

Back on page 1, as the first reply. 😀

:shakehead Im getting a little slow in my old age

 

[Team Member]

35+ 😎

 

[xcel730]

That's kind of tricky. If all that's left from surefire is the body and tailcap, I would still tell my friends it's a Surefire so I don't have to go on a long-winded explanation ... "Well, it was originally Surefire, but then I got the reflector, Light engine, driver, and emitter changed."

 

[firefly99]

2 dozens Surefire, 100% stock. Only a few are in active standby service, waiting for darkness. The rest are all shelf queens.

Once in my collections, will forever be mine.

The most important component of a flashlight is the light engine. Surefire invest lots of resources on the light engine to produce the signature surefire beam.

If the SF light engine had been replaced by a 3rd party emitter. Then it should not be counted as a Surefire flashlight anymore.

 

[GreyShark]

I disagree. Surefires are inherently modular, lamps burn out and the technology is always advancing. You can just as easily run an M60 as a P60, especially if you still own the Surefire lamps. Saying otherwise is like suggesting it's no longer a Surefire because you use a different brand of batteries.


To put it another way it's normal to hotrod a quality piece of machinery. You can spend a lot of money making a Ford Pinto go fast but when all's said and done you've still only got a Pinto. That's why serious enthusiasts mod respectable sports cars. It's the same thing with flashlights. An Ultrafire clone may be just as bright with a Malkoff, but it's still just an Ultrafire. Not the same thing at all.

 

[Sgt. LED]

But the hot rod Pinto is fun and not really expected to blow your doors off! I like sleepers. 🙂

 

[griff]

Nicely said!!
sleepers are nice too but ................I rather roll in a 911 than a sleeper pinto......

I disagree. Surefires are inherently modular, lamps burn out and the technology is always advancing. You can just as easily run an M60 as a P60, especially if you still own the Surefire lamps. Saying otherwise is like suggesting it's no longer a Surefire because you use a different brand of batteries.


To put it another way it's normal to hotrod a quality piece of machinery. You can spend a lot of money making a Ford Pinto go fast but when all's said and done you've still only got a Pinto. That's why serious enthusiasts mod respectable sports cars. It's the same thing with flashlights. An Ultrafire clone may be just as bright with a Malkoff, but it's still just an Ultrafire. Not the same thing at all.

 

[Sgt. LED]

:laughing: But the Pinto I can afford!

 

[Owen]

We both know this kind of vote does not have cientifical value, because we´re working on people´s sense of truth.

Yeah, I forget that people lie all the time.
Turns out I have 8(7 different, 1 duplicate I didn't count), and 7 of them, externally, are all SF, while the "M4" has a Leef body.
I showed it to a Surefire rep a few days ago, and when I pulled it out he said "Oh, a M4" so I voted 8.

 

[CARNAL1]

Currently I own:

1 E1B
1 E1L (2 stage)
2 6Ps
1 G2 (yellow)
1 G2 (black)
1 G2 (OD)
1 Z2
1 C2
1 E2L (single stage 45 lumens)
1 M2
1 D3 Defender
2 E2Ws
1 E2E HA
1 E2DL Defender
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Total = 16

My first Surefire was my G2 black. Then it just started to snowball. I only need one more to complete my collection. The E2D LED Defender 120/5 lumens should be my last Surefire. Hopefully I'm not just wishful thinking. Happy Dark Trails

UPDATE:

Jan. 2010, I finally purchased my last Surefire. I was checking the Surefire Website and saw that they raised their prices on some of their lights. The E2DL Defender is now $165.00. I checked BrightGuy to see what their price was on the
E2DL and it was still the old price. I called BG to see if they had any in stock, and they had 1 left. I jumped all over it. I also got a nice surprise in that the Lumens was raised from 120/5 on the old version to 200/5 on the new version. Anyway my Surefire collection and my Flashlight collection in general is now complete. From here on out I think I'll only need accessories for the lights that I already own. Just a little side note, my last purchase of 2009 was the Solarforce L2 with the 18650 extension tube. I running 2 AW 18650s (2600) with a ThruNite XP-G R5 Drop-In, tailcap is the Solarforce L2 V4, and last but not least my bezel is a Surefire Z44. Not a bad build if I do say so myself. Happy Dark Trails.

 

[edc3]

3 at the moment.

C2-HA
6P
G2L

Funds permitting I would buy at least a few more.

 

[GreyShark]

But the hot rod Pinto is fun and not really expected to blow your doors off! I like sleepers. 🙂

Don't get me wrong... I like'em too... that's why I'm building a Mag85!

Even from another angle though... is an Ultrafire with a P60 transformed into a SureFire? Not in my opinion.

 

[GreyShark]

Nicely said!!
sleepers are nice too but ................I rather roll in a 911 than a sleeper pinto......

You know what they say about mopeds, right? 😀 :devil:

Sleepers are fun but when it comes down to it if you're going to build a hotrod you may as well do it with style. 😎