Surefires in CPF

[gswitter]

25-30ish, mostly stock. Enough parts to assemble 5-10 more.

 

[DaFABRICATA]

Nicely said!!
sleepers are nice too but ................I rather roll in a 911 than a sleeper pinto......

Not me...I'll roll in my 1978 Chevette..:naughty:

OK....Back on topic.
Heres most of my Surefires with a few randoms.
I have aquired more since this picture, so it is not up to date.

 

[Juggernaut]

None😗.

 

[Eric242]

I´m at 11 right now plus two lego builds still in the works:

K2, K2 Milspec, U2, L5, C2, C2 Emerson, M2, M3, E1e, E1d (E2D body replaced with E1e body), "KL3-BK-BL + C2 body + U2 tailcap"

Eric

 

[brighterisbetter]

Ok so to clarify my earlier post I voted 4:

E1B
E2DL
C3
M3T

Though none of the above are stock anymore. Here's what they actually are:

E1B = E1B body/tail + flared delrin guard + darkzero FLuPIC KL4-P7 + IMR123
E2DL = bored E2DL body/tail + Mule head + darkzero Bi-FLuPIC P7 LE + AW17670
C3 = C3-HA w/FM34 diffuser + Z48 + Malkoff M60W + (2) AW17500's
M3T = M3 body + SW01 + Led Zeppelin MZP7-3 head + (3) IMR123's

If I were to count all the SF's that I've bought and sold on Marketplace since joining in June `08.....who knows, over 100 previously owned probably.

 

[Size15's]

I guess Surefire should start listening CPFers... There are thousands of SF lights in CPFer´s hands!!

So having a lot of flashlights makes us worth listening to? I disagree.

I have many SureFires but I consider my opinion to be of significantly less worth compared to a Police Officer who is 'only' issues with one.

If SureFire wants to sell flashlights to collectors then we're one of the groups to market towards.

If SureFire wants to sell illumination tools to those who use light as a tool in order to help them prevail in adverse conditions then we offer less value.

Quantity is no indication of use and as SureFire market products to certain specific groups of users it is reasonable that they concentrate gaining feedback from those groups of users.

It's simply not possible to be everywhere listening to everybody and SureFire must direct resources where they consider most appropriate.

Al

 

[GreyShark]

So having a lot of flashlights makes us worth listening to? I disagree.

I have many SureFires but I consider my opinion to be of significantly less worth compared to a Police Officer who is 'only' issues with one.

I'm sorry but that sounds really strange. Are you saying that you don't know anything about flashlights or that you don't have any self respect? At best what you're suggesting is a well known logical fallacy called the "appeal to authority."

Then again you did specifically say "collector." Maybe you don't actually use your lights for anything?

 

[brighterisbetter]

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[CampingLED]

I have two, both modded. So my answer is 0

 

[Federal LG]

So having a lot of flashlights makes us worth listening to? I disagree.

I have many SureFires but I consider my opinion to be of significantly less worth compared to a Police Officer who is 'only' issues with one.

Al

Al... sorry dude, but the day that you agree with some critics over Surefire, I would change my name to Jessica Simpson!

Like you said, it´s your opinion.
I just have ONE Surefire light: a L1.
I´m a federal agent.

Do you really think that I know more than you about SF lights ?
Do you really think that I can talk about all the other models that I don´t have ?
Do you really think that I can contribute to Surefire models evolution more than you ??

Other point of view:
Maybe you should count in "thousands of dollars" to see how much CPFers generate to Surefire vaults. Then you should ask to some light manufacture (or even to Surefire too) if they would like to NOT receive that quantity of money.

Sorry, but in my country, a customer is a customer. Money is ALWAYS welcome to any company. And good companies always listen to their customers.

I love SF, I would love to have dinner with PK (hey, PK, come to Brazil, and I can host you free in my ranch!) but I don´t understand some points of view around here...

 

[Federal LG]

Please, people, let´s contribute...

The objective is count. Not get the thread closed... :thumbsup:

 

[Federal LG]

OK....Back on topic.
Heres most of my Surefires with a few randoms.
I have aquired more since this picture, so it is not up to date.

Wow!! Amazing !! :devil:
I would love to see them in real! Wow! Congratulations DeFab!

What are those silver shine models, in the middle, upper side ??

 

[DaFABRICATA]

Wow!! Amazing !! :devil:
I would love to see them in real! Wow! Congratulations DeFab!

What are those silver shine models, in the middle, upper side ??

Thank you!
Those are an old E2 in satan grey and a rare E1e with teardrop head in saten grey. There is also an SG E1 body with Blk KL4 bezel.

Its amazing how many SF's have been accounted for so far.....lets keep em comin!


I have a feeling this thread has come VERY close to being closed...Lets just keep our opinions to ourselves and keep things on track.:wave:

 

[GreyShark]

Please, people, let´s contribute...

The objective is count. Not get the thread closed... :thumbsup:

Good point. I'll just avoid certain kinds of discussions from now on.

 

[powernoodle]

- Surefire L4, Pila 168S
- Surefire G2 (3)
- Surefire 6P (3)
- Surefire U2
- Surefire X10
- Surefire 6P + (2)A19 + (2)Pila 168S + P91 (now a Malkoff M60 MC-E)
- Surefire M3 + A19 + (2)Pila 168S

Almost none of them get any use, except as a host for my recent Malkoff MC-E purchase.

 

[Federal LG]

I´m curious...

All you guys that posted names here, already voted in the poll too, right ?

 

[saabgoblin]

I´m curious...

All you guys that posted names here, already voted in the poll too, right ?

That's a Yes for the Goblin.

 

[Size15's]

I'm sorry but that sounds really strange. Are you saying that you don't know anything about flashlights or that you don't have any self respect? At best what you're suggesting is a well known logical fallacy called the "appeal to authority."

Then again you did specifically say "collector." Maybe you don't actually use your lights for anything?

I'm not suggesting that CPF members don't use their SureFires.
I'm suggesting that most people on CPF don't tend to use SureFire flashlights for the purpose SureFire have carefully designed them for.

I'm suggesting that if SureFire don't have the resources to gather feedback from all sources [which seems to be the case] then SureFire are right to concentrate their feedback gathering and customer interaction on those customers SureFire design and intend their products for.

The emphasis on CPF is on the flashlight rather than the use it is intended for. We're flashlight enthusiasts after all. Nothing at all wrong with that!

One gets a completely different perspective when visiting communities that concentrate on activities involving lights. It's like they don't think about the flashlight itself as much as they think about whether they can use it to illuminate their activity in the way they need.

I have concentrated on exploring SureFire products for the last decade. I've not concentrated on exploring [insert activity] and how best to illuminate things. What is important in a flashlight to me may not be important to somebody performing an activity for which the flashlight is intended. In fact features of the flashlight that make it more suitable for an activity may be the features I actually find annoying in my use of it...

The CPF Community has plenty of SureFires - we're scratching the surface exploring this with this poll.
We have very little discussion regarding use of SureFires in the activities for which they are intended. If we did I suspect there would be a greater representation from SureFire.

Al

 

[schiesz]

21+ here.

A few points I wanted to make:

One of those lights in DeFab's picture is the Porsche light, made by Surefire 🙂 Can't leave out the Porsche light.

I think the point that WE do not use surefire's for their intended purpose is very wrong. They are not ALL designed for combat and police activities. Last I checked there were quite a few models intended for outdoorsmen, pilots, spelunkers, and general illumination. Sure, the weaponlights, Millennium series, and Backup are designed expressly for certain markets and a decent percentage of CPFers have those lights and don't use them in that manner. But, all of the E series are intended for general purposes and outdoors activites, and a HUGE percentage of out lights are within that series (executive series, correct). And yes that includes the E2d. The P series may have originally been intended for police type use as one of (or maybe the ONE in) their original lineup, but now it is just the basic model in their wide range of offerings.

If a police officer uses a E2o with a KL4 head to clear a room in a suspected drug house, or a computer technician uses a A2 to inspect a motherboard, are they really not using the light as it was designed or intended because they are not an outdoorsman or an aviator?

I can't imagine anyone would say that was the case. The intent of most of these lights is to provide light in the level and manner in which it is useful to you.

 

[Federal LG]

Wise words... :thumbsup: