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So which of these is better?
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Thanks FNG and Geoff in Philly
I recently got a Surge and it is bright. More throw than my Brinkmann LX . I also like the feel. It is comfortable and the lanyard ensures I won't lose it if my hand is wet and I let it go. Was wondering about other lights in terms of usefull range and this post sheds (pardon the expression- a lot of light on the subject). Thanks....
I think for the time I'll use my 5 D cell Energizer Halogen for really long throw or perhaps that million candle power lead acid powered search light that I charge one a month for the really long range.
I recently got a Surge and it is bright. More throw than my Brinkmann LX . I also like the feel. It is comfortable and the lanyard ensures I won't lose it if my hand is wet and I let it go. Was wondering about other lights in terms of usefull range and this post sheds (pardon the expression- a lot of light on the subject). Thanks....
I think for the time I'll use my 5 D cell Energizer Halogen for really long throw or perhaps that million candle power lead acid powered search light that I charge one a month for the really long range.
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I don't have the Surge but I find the SL6 to be a real nice companion. Much more compact and easy to carry than a 5D or 6D Mag light--nicer and brigher beam, too.
It is my light of choice (so far) in the 10K candela range. The Vector 12V "banana" spotlight (137CO) is about 10x as bright (100K candela) while the E2e is about 1/8 as bright (1200 candela).
By the way, don't assume that the UKE D8 is any brigheter. It puts out about 2x the lumens of the SL6, but is a much broader light.
Run Time: My SL6 is still on its first set of batteries with probably 3 hours of use. The D8 runs about 2x as long.
Cheers,
Richard
It is my light of choice (so far) in the 10K candela range. The Vector 12V "banana" spotlight (137CO) is about 10x as bright (100K candela) while the E2e is about 1/8 as bright (1200 candela).
By the way, don't assume that the UKE D8 is any brigheter. It puts out about 2x the lumens of the SL6, but is a much broader light.
Run Time: My SL6 is still on its first set of batteries with probably 3 hours of use. The D8 runs about 2x as long.
Cheers,
Richard
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The Surge has let me down after a month of ownership. The sl6 is still dishin' it out after 6 months a few campouts and much use and abuse. For brightness look no farther than the sl6 because it slams the surge.
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Oh yeah, the Surge - I chucked it. I have no time for things that fail.
This is written by --Geoff in Philly---
I have both the SL6 and the Surge and have been meaning to post a full review...In the meantime, here are some observations. First, the method... I started with fresh Duracell ultras (dated like 2008) in both lights; the Surge had 3 hours on the bulb, the SL6 was new. (Both from Brightguy, both with clean, no wholed beams).
I have access to a walled-in yard 100 ft. x 300 ft. with trees and some shrubbery around the perimeter. There are some trees in the middle as well. When looking at the beam as it leaves the light, the Surge starts out as a 1" tube, then flairs broadly after about 4'. The SL6 starts as a 1" "tube" of light that looks like a light sabre out to about 15'-20'. The SL6 also has a broad ring that is dimmer than the PT, but so bright that nighttime walking in bad terrain is no problem at all. At about 50 ft., shined against a wall, both lights have almost the same hotspot, in diam. and brightness.
At 150 ft, the surge lights up everything in its path with a 25-35 ft. spread: the SL6 has a much tighter spot (like about 3-4'), but b/c of its brightness illuminates out to the side almost as much as the surge. At 250'-300', the Surge illuminates the back fence line to the point where you can identify the bushes against the fence. Without the Surge , it is complete darkness. The SL6 at the same distance can focus on the same shrub, create shadow behind it and illuminate to the side about 10' on each side of the hot spot.
These two lights, at least the versions I have, really duplicate function until about 150'. I use the surge and recommend it when you want to light up everything in front of you out to about 125-150'. At this distance, the Surge still has enough oomph to penetrate bushes and light up things behind the bushes. The SL6 is the light I use to see a more narrow perspective out to about 300'.
I used the SL6 to spot a leaking gutter during a rain storm..it was so bright, and narrow, I could actually distinguish the varying rates of the water droplets. The Surge did the same, but not at the same distance. I must say, it is rewarding to hold the SL6 at shoulder level and spot 300' away with nice white light. Recently, I escorted an elderly neighbor to her home where her ex-con son sometimes lurks in the shadows of the bushes against her house. I used the SL6 to light up her driveway and the bushes . The SL6 beam rips through the vegitation out to 75' with ease...I mean you could see squirel marks on the ground, and pine needles in the bushes 50' away no problem.
Both lights are excellent for output and beam. I like the switch on the Surge much better...as much as I like the SL6, it is a tad awkward and bulky...both lights do fit in a winter coat pocket, I have even put the SL6 in my back pants pocket to conceal it from my wife so she doesn't know how many lights I am taking for my "walk". Hope this ramble was illuminating....
I have both the SL6 and the Surge and have been meaning to post a full review...In the meantime, here are some observations. First, the method... I started with fresh Duracell ultras (dated like 2008) in both lights; the Surge had 3 hours on the bulb, the SL6 was new. (Both from Brightguy, both with clean, no wholed beams).
I have access to a walled-in yard 100 ft. x 300 ft. with trees and some shrubbery around the perimeter. There are some trees in the middle as well. When looking at the beam as it leaves the light, the Surge starts out as a 1" tube, then flairs broadly after about 4'. The SL6 starts as a 1" "tube" of light that looks like a light sabre out to about 15'-20'. The SL6 also has a broad ring that is dimmer than the PT, but so bright that nighttime walking in bad terrain is no problem at all. At about 50 ft., shined against a wall, both lights have almost the same hotspot, in diam. and brightness.
At 150 ft, the surge lights up everything in its path with a 25-35 ft. spread: the SL6 has a much tighter spot (like about 3-4'), but b/c of its brightness illuminates out to the side almost as much as the surge. At 250'-300', the Surge illuminates the back fence line to the point where you can identify the bushes against the fence. Without the Surge , it is complete darkness. The SL6 at the same distance can focus on the same shrub, create shadow behind it and illuminate to the side about 10' on each side of the hot spot.
These two lights, at least the versions I have, really duplicate function until about 150'. I use the surge and recommend it when you want to light up everything in front of you out to about 125-150'. At this distance, the Surge still has enough oomph to penetrate bushes and light up things behind the bushes. The SL6 is the light I use to see a more narrow perspective out to about 300'.
I used the SL6 to spot a leaking gutter during a rain storm..it was so bright, and narrow, I could actually distinguish the varying rates of the water droplets. The Surge did the same, but not at the same distance. I must say, it is rewarding to hold the SL6 at shoulder level and spot 300' away with nice white light. Recently, I escorted an elderly neighbor to her home where her ex-con son sometimes lurks in the shadows of the bushes against her house. I used the SL6 to light up her driveway and the bushes . The SL6 beam rips through the vegitation out to 75' with ease...I mean you could see squirel marks on the ground, and pine needles in the bushes 50' away no problem.
Both lights are excellent for output and beam. I like the switch on the Surge much better...as much as I like the SL6, it is a tad awkward and bulky...both lights do fit in a winter coat pocket, I have even put the SL6 in my back pants pocket to conceal it from my wife so she doesn't know how many lights I am taking for my "walk". Hope this ramble was illuminating....
sunspot
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I now remember this post. Nice to see it again. Makes me want to buy the SL6 to go with my Surge.
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My surge sort of failed . I say that because the design of the battery assembly could use a little work. If your not careful how you remove the batteries the switch can get caught by the end of the battery as the battery comes out. Princeton Tec however replaced it and it has not failed since. Great light and a great company that stands behind there product.
WarrenI
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NightSun; Why didn't you contact Princeton Tec's customer service? They are really responsive as I have contacted them for information via e-mail and they have always responded quickly. As I did not have to contact them for any sort of problems, I suspect they will give the same attention (why not?). Hope you don't plan to get any SureFires as if you monitor the topics, contacting customer service seems to be a norm. Will you chuck a SF due to a blown bulb which is only a couple of battery sets old?...
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Entendu,
Did the battery end actually damage the switch? Is that why you had to replace the light? If it's not too much trouble can you please give the details of what happened?
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