Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size LSD Cells

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This is a followup to my testing of the Accupower Evolution C size Low Self Discharge Cells here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=187271

I've completed testing on a total of 6 of these D cells purchased from Thomas Distributing:
http://thomasdistributing.com/shop/...batteriesbrprecharged-2-battery-pk-p-997.html

All discharge tests were done on my 0FAB02 firmware Maha C9000 charger/analyzer.

Out of the packet, the cells gave an average of:
8079mAh
(Min 7678, Max 8239, St Dev 206)

Charged on the C808M, they gave an average of:
9886mAh
(Min 9778, Max 9959, St Dev 64)

After charging on the C808M and topped off with the C9000, they gave an average of:
10497mAh
(Min 10290, Max 10710, St Dev 168)

Although not as impressive as the performance given by their C sized equivalents, they still seem to be very good cells, giving almost 5% over their rated capacity when topped off with the C9000. Unlike the C sized cells, they actually came in under their rated capacity when only charged on the C808M, but only by an average of less than 1.2%

Again, there were no markings on the cells to indicate when they were manufactured (and it's impossible to know how fully charged they were when new) so it's not possible at this stage to evaluate their self discharge rate, but at about 80% of rated capacity out of the package, they can still claim that they're pre-charged and ready to use!

Edit: I've created a new thread with a photo of how I've attached the C & D cells in the C9000:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=213363

Update (22nd of September 2012)

I've just finished running another batch of tests on these cells. These cells have been sitting idle since November 2008 - nearly 4 years!

Initial discharge capacities as measured on my iCharger 206B were:

4725
5336
4264
266
2882
4271

Obviously cells 4 & 5 didn't fare so well, but the rest weren't too bad considering the length of time that they've been sitting idle for. Even the better cells aren't up to the same standard that we expect from Eneloops however. Looking back over the historical data, cell 4 has always performed poorly with self discharge - even out of the packet. Cell 5 initially looked OK, but also showed higher self discharge on the 6 month test.

After running a few cycles on them, I performed a final test by initially charging them in my Maha C808M followed by a top off on the 206B and a discharge at 2.5A on the 206B:

9970
9689
9700
9684
10049
10019

Average capacity was 98.5% of their rated capacity, so not too shabby for cells that are now at least 4.5 years old.

Discharge curves:
AccuPower%20D%20Discharge%20Chart%20Resized.png


A larger version of the above chart can be viewed here:
http://www.bogswamp.com/AccuPower D Discharge Chart.png

Even considering the weaker cells, this isn't too bad - the weaker cells would probably still have quite useful capacity at 12 months since the last charge.

Even if I was to totally disregard the poor results from cells 4 & 5, I couldn't recommend that others purchase these cells anymore due to reports that the latest versions aren't performing anywhere near as well as these original versions:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?309280-AccuEvolution-D-Cells-quality-gone!
 
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Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

How can you charge D cells in the Maha?
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Thankyou Power Me Up :goodjob:

jezzyp: Look at the thread about C cells.

Anders
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Any info on the self-discharge rates?
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Any info on the self-discharge rates?

Not yet - The D cells will have been stored for 3 months on the 7th of May, so I'll do a discharge on them sometime around that time.

The C cells will have been stored for 3 months at the start of May, so the results for them will be available a bit sooner...
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

:BUMP:

Results in one week I hope!
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

I have a set of these that I use to power my Malkoff 2D; like'em alot.
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Looking forward to the results, seeing that I just ordered 4 of these (only needed three) to run my incoming 3D powered P7 Mag.
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Discharge capacities after 3 months for the 6 D cells came to an average of 8704 mAh - 88.0% of their original capacity.

Maximum capacity was 8829 mAh and the minimum was 8438 mAh - the standard deviation was 150 mAh.
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

This is good to know as I am getting ready to get some LSD D and C cells.

How does that discharge rate compare to Maha Powerex?
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

It looks like the official 2% per month self-discharge rate is not valid, the actual rate is far worse than that. Not in the Eneloop territory.
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

To: Power Me Up. Can you explain why the 9000 charger does a more complete job of charging these cells over the maha808 charger? I just purchased some of these d-cells and the 808 charger. and can I get the same 9000 charger as you are using?
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

To: Power Me Up. Can you explain why the 9000 charger does a more complete job of charging these cells over the maha808 charger? I just purchased some of these d-cells and the 808 charger. and can I get the same 9000 charger as you are using?

The old C9000 doesn't have a high voltage cut off, like the newer models do, as do the C808Ms - meaning that the old C9000 doesn't stop charging as soon as the other chargers and so puts more into the cells.

I would be very surprised if you managed to find an old model charger available for sale anywhere unless it was already used. Probably your only real chance would be if someone on CPF wanted to upgrade to the newer model and would be willing to sell you their older model C9000...

Personally, I don't think it would be worth the effort - I'm not planning to use my C9000 to charge my C & D cells in the future - it's just too much hassle for only a relatively small return...
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Thanks for the explanation and the good work on the tests of these batteries.
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

It looks like the official 2% per month self-discharge rate is not valid, the actual rate is far worse than that. Not in the Eneloop territory.

It looks like ~4% per month for 3 months, assuming the 88% is correct.

If so, wouldn't that still include the initial self-discharge? (which should be ~20%) The 10497mAh looks like it was hot off the charger, so there wouldn't have been time for the initial self-discharge. ~88% after 3 months seems pretty good to me.

But it's possible I'm missing something.

-Mike
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Hello Phlack.

This is good results for the Accupowercells. Thanks Power me up, I think "etc" must look at the Eneloop selfdischarge study again.


Maha Imedion AA has 91,8% kapacity left after 90 days. 88,1% for Eneloops AA after 90 days.

Maha Imedion AA cells has 89% remaining capacity after 180 Days.

The data is not linear, the worst selfdischarge is the first day.

Anders
 
Re: Test Results for Accupower Evolution D Size Low Self Discharge Cells

Any updates on the batteries?
 
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