The Incandescent Tribute Challenge

Repsol600rr

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Thank you mr fixer. Had to charge the batteries in the mitylight already. Definitely not led levels of run time with this. But thats what rechargeable's are for. Incan week continues. I recommend it thoroughly. It's good for the soul.
 

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I see some irony in the ridicule given to Solitaire, in that flashaholics with the most discriminating taste insist on NO PWM, Hi CRI, and a low low moonlight or firefly mode, and if they could find it, tighten for off, and to find all these qualities stock in an attractive, diminutive, and inexpensive flashlight is rare. Yet the Solitaire ridicule continues. I use mine everyday until I run out of lamps, then its shelved until I can get another stack of lamps. If its too dim for you, get some 3.2v LifePO4 10440, and MiniMag bulbs, and use your Solitaire, and learn how to use it well... because if it doesn't work well, its really just you, not the flashlight. Mine works great. I'm getting more. Using both incan and LED increases my apprecation of both.
 
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Thank you mr fixer. Had to charge the batteries in the mitylight already. Definitely not led levels of run time with this. But thats what rechargeable's are for. Incan week continues. I recommend it thoroughly. It's good for the soul.

Incan is certainly old tech, like say... a vcr. We get used to more modern conveniences.
I struggled a little during incan tribute week due to wanting to use my Microstream a few times and having a PK PR-1 arrive a few days before I took the challenge. Yet when it was over and I could freely choose any light, I still pick an incan for most tasks.

I see some irony in the ridicule given to Solitaire, in that flashaholics with the most discriminating taste insist on NO PWM, Hi CRI, and a low low moonlight or firefly mode, and if they could find it, tighten for off, and to find all these qualities stock in an attractive, diminutive, and inexpensive flashlight is rare. Yet the Solitaire ridicule continues. I use mine everyday until I run out of lamps, then its shelved until I can get another stack of lamps. If its too dim for you, get some 3.2v LifePO4 10440, and MiniMag bulbs, and use your Solitaire, and learn how to use it well... because if it doesn't work well, its really just you, not the flashlight. Mine works great. I'm getting more. Using both incan and LED increases my apprecation of both.

Yeah I thought the same thing bro.
I like the 'know how to use it' part of your comment.
It's like some expect a wooden spoon to drive a nail...I suppose that would be the same folks who use a jackhammer for a screwdriver...

Jewel thief lights are cool.
 

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I see some irony in the ridicule given to Solitaire, in that flashaholics with the most discriminating taste insist on NO PWM, Hi CRI, and a low low moonlight or firefly mode, and if they could find it, tighten for off, and to find all these qualities stock in an attractive, diminutive, and inexpensive flashlight is rare. Yet the Solitaire ridicule continues. I use mine everyday until I run out of lamps, then its shelved until I can get another stack of lamps. If its too dim for you, get some 3.2v LifePO4 10440, and MiniMag bulbs, and use your Solitaire, and learn how to use it well... because if it doesn't work well, its really just you, not the flashlight. Mine works great. I'm getting more. Using both incan and LED increases my apprecation of both.

You forgot tough as hell (other than the bulb of course)...my incan Solitaire took a real beating over the years and other than bending the prongs on the bulbs occasionally for better contact to stop the flickering, it was pretty reliable. And I only had to start doing that after many years of use and after many, many, many bulbs. I just always made sure I kept a spare in the tailcap, and I was good to go...I got pretty good at replacing bulbs in the dark, LOL!

I may not use it much, but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for my old Solitaire and will never get rid of it.

I recently bought a couple of the new LED Solitaires and they are a decent little light for the money...they're not going to fry your retinas with bounce off of a white wall, but they put out a good usable amount of light and if something happens to it, its no biggie, just get another one for $10. They make perfect loaner lights!
 

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Yep it can. But the ring that holds in the PR bulb has a larger opening than the one for the bi-pin so that the PR bulb can fit through the ring.

You can drill one out and go to home depot to get a... say 2 or 3 cell bi-pin kit that comes with a new fastener ring along with the bulb and bi-pin bulb holder...

So, what do you think of the retro incan kit? I had never seen one until you posted a pic of one. Is it worth getting? I'm not expecting breathtaking output, I mean, I know it definitely isn't meant to compete with an ROP Mod for sure.

PS. Sorry for not using multi quote...I thought it would add the second quote to the same post. :ohgeez:
 
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So, what do you think of the retro incan kit? I had never seen one until you posted a pic of one. Is it worth getting? I'm not expecting breathtaking output, I mean, I know it definitely isn't meant to compete with an ROP Mod for sure.

PS. Sorry for not using multi quote...I thought it would add the second quote to the same post. :ohgeez:

Basically it's the typical Maglite replacement bulb available for any incan Mag be-it krypton or xenon. It'll allow you to replace the PR flanged krypton with a bi-pin xenon.

If you are swapping say a new bulb into an old PR based 2D, you'll see a difference with the xenon bulb. Brighter and whiter with new cells. But it aint like it'll go from 20 to 75 lumens. Supposedly they last longer too. So yeah it's worth the 3 or 4 bucks.

I switch some krypton bulb'd 2D's to the xenon and use the leftover PR based kryptons in a couple of 1970's 2D lights. Those are now brighter than the old argon filled ones they came with.

You can still get PR Mag bulbs at zbattery .com. They are called "Magstar".
Just do a little experimenting and stick with whichever gives off the beam you prefer.
 
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Repsol600rr

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I see some irony in the ridicule given to Solitaire, in that flashaholics with the most discriminating taste insist on NO PWM, Hi CRI, and a low low moonlight or firefly mode, and if they could find it, tighten for off, and to find all these qualities stock in an attractive, diminutive, and inexpensive flashlight is rare. Yet the Solitaire ridicule continues. I use mine everyday until I run out of lamps, then its shelved until I can get another stack of lamps. If its too dim for you, get some 3.2v LifePO4 10440, and MiniMag bulbs, and use your Solitaire, and learn how to use it well... because if it doesn't work well, its really just you, not the flashlight. Mine works great. I'm getting more. Using both incan and LED increases my apprecation of both.
It works exceptionally well for its purpose even in stock form. Thats why I dug mine out and am using it at night for low outputs. It does exactly what it says on the tin and for me has done so very reliably. Its just that nowadays you can get lights that are multi taskers as opposed to a light that only does an artifacty low low. Its very specialized. As you say its a light you have to adapt to as opposed to one that adapts to you. I think thats where it comes from. Most people would rather have it the other way around. I got by on one for years but it was getting by, not thriving. I still like mine though I do admit to ridiculing it a little occasionally. It may well stay on my key chain for a while after the week for memories sake. I have quite a few spare bulbs to burn. I will have to try the lifepo4 10440 and mini mag bulb in the future. Sounds like fun.
 

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Scotch tape makes a mighty fine temporary artifact remover for the Solitaire.
Or a few strokes with a scotch brite pad. A stroke here, a stoke there in a circle motion until you chase away the uglys to taste while preserving as much throw as practical will work, but it's permanent.
 

Repsol600rr

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Well my incan week is over. I made it the week using incan for every task requiring a light. Obviously I will continue to use and enjoy incans well into the future. It was a fun idea and enjoyable week.
 

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^^ When I arrived here any LED light I owned was outshined by an incan mini mag. Really.

I was unaware that the LED tech had reached more than incan. I bought a 250 lumen Energizer hard case, a couple of Coasts and some Lux-Pro's shortly before joining.

Then I joined here to learn how to splice LED lights into existing incan circuits in a car I was working (which coincidently (?) has been collecting dust ever since. lol)

To me it's like a time warp of sorts. While understanding where LED lights are headed, I also get a kick out of sifting through dusty old threads here regarding what life was like when the incan still out did the light emitting diodes.
Meanwhile restoring some going back from the mid 1900s on back has been the real learning experience.
 

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Basically it's the typical Maglite replacement bulb available for any incan Mag be-it krypton or xenon. It'll allow you to replace the PR flanged krypton with a bi-pin xenon.

If you are swapping say a new bulb into an old PR based 2D, you'll see a difference with the xenon bulb. Brighter and whiter with new cells. But it aint like it'll go from 20 to 75 lumens. Supposedly they last longer too. So yeah it's worth the 3 or 4 bucks.

I switch some krypton bulb'd 2D's to the xenon and use the leftover PR based kryptons in a couple of 1970's 2D lights. Those are now brighter than the old argon filled ones they came with.

You can still get PR Mag bulbs at zbattery .com. They are called "Magstar".
Just do a little experimenting and stick with whichever gives off the beam you prefer.

Ok...so I'll likely get a couple when I run across them, I just won't spend much effort to search for them, LOL! The good thing is that you can use whatever bi-pin bulbs you want to with them, providing you don't use one so high powered it melts the socket.
 
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