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Re: when will Malkoff update their dropins?

The M60 works fine on 3V, although noticeably dimmer than at 3.8V. As Gene Malkoff's website says, the M60 drops out of regulation at 3.8V, so it gets dimmer on lower voltages.

Indeed, I would prefer to run the M60 or M60L in the Valiant instead of an M30. I ran an M30 in my Valiant for a while and found it got too hot to hold after a minute or two.
 
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It is sort of fun watching this develop.

Bill
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Its fun and very interesting! It is the evolution of a growing small business!!! Gene has found a demanding market for his products and when you couple that with amazing customer service, the best built (American made) products, and the ability to listen to what your customers are asking for and give it to them you have a business that will be around for a long time!
 
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I'm really looking forward to the initial comparison beamshots, as well as what kind of head will be available to accommodate the reflector rather than the optic. It can't be the same head as is currently available, can it?
 
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Vesper said:
I'm really looking forward to the initial comparison beamshots, as well as what kind of head will be available to accommodate the reflector rather than the optic. It can't be the same head as is currently available, can it?
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The M60 and the M61 look totally different (based on Gene's M61 sample)
 
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Max_Power said:
The M60 works fine on 3V, although noticeably dimmer than at 3.8V. As Gene Malkoff's website says, the M60 drops out of regulation at 3.8V, so it gets dimmer on lower voltages.

Indeed, I would prefer to run the M60 or M60L in the Valiant instead of an M30. I ran an M30 in my Valiant for a while and found it got too hot to hold after a minute or two.
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I also prefer the m60 (wlf) over my m30w in a valiant. only because of runtimes. I don't think the m30+valiant is to hot to handle. it gets hot , but nowhere near uncomfortable hot.
 
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Awesome. I'm looking forward to M61 🙂
 
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I'm really looking forward to the M61's too.

Just got the email from Malkoff that they are now starting to liquidate old stock to make room and the M61 XP-G prototypes should begin to trickle out in 2-3 weeks. :twothumbs

Still no specs tho :popcorn:
 
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jorn said:
I also prefer the m60 (wlf) over my m30w in a valiant. only because of runtimes. I don't think the m30+valiant is to hot to handle. it gets hot , but nowhere near uncomfortable hot.
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I am running my Valiant with an RCR123 so the M30 was at full power 🙂

It still gets toasty with a primary cell but it's more manageable.
 
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Max_Power said:
I am running my Valiant with an RCR123 so the M30 was at full power 🙂

It still gets toasty with a primary cell but it's more manageable.
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Cant save the world with primary's:grin2:, rcr is my only choice. In fact I have bought a single 123 primary only once, and i still haven't used it.
 
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jorn said:
Cant save the world with primary's:grin2:, rcr is my only choice. In fact I have bought a single 123 primary only once, and i still haven't used it.
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I keep 123 primaries in the streamlight mounted on my Glock. That's the only light I have that absolutely must work after it's sat unused on the shelf for 12 months.

For all other lights it's rechargeable cells.

--flatline
 
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Yeah, on weapon lights the gradual decline in brightness is greatly preferable to the sudden unexpected darkness as the rechargeable cell's protection circuit shuts down the power.
 
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I just posted this in the photo section, but it seems fairly on-topic here too.

I got a new light box and my first subjects were my EDC lights:
a warm white wildcat head on a black MD3 body, and
a warm white flood M60WF on an MD2 body in natural Aluminum.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/31055544@N05/4321763766/

I've got an MD4 body with no emitter, and an MD2 with only a Surefire 80-lumen P6LED module.
Both are crying out for a nice warm-white XPG module.
How about a triple or quad emitter wildcat for the MD4?

The high/low ring might need a larger resistance value to properly dim the XPG. On the MD4 the low beam is still pretty darn bright, for example.

We certainly live in interesting times!
 
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Max_Power said:
I just posted this in the photo section, but it seems fairly on-topic here too.

I got a new light box and my first subjects were my EDC lights:
a warm white wildcat head on a black MD3 body, and
a warm white flood M60WF on an MD2 body in natural Aluminum.

4321763766_1ccdbffdb9_o.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31055544@N05/4321763766/

I've got an MD4 body with no emitter, and an MD2 with only a Surefire 80-lumen P6LED module.
Both are crying out for a nice warm-white XPG module.
How about a triple or quad emitter wildcat for the MD4?

The high/low ring might need a larger resistance value to properly dim the XPG. On the MD4 the low beam is still pretty darn bright, for example.

We certainly live in interesting times!
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Gene brought his prototype MD4 Wildcat with three XP-G's to the 4-7's, and MattK parties. Bright sucker and he is still working on it. Not sure if he is considering warm white XP-G's

Bill
 
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Bullzeyebill said:
Gene brought his prototype MD4 Wildcat with three XP-G's to the 4-7's, and MattK parties. Bright sucker and he is still working on it. Not sure if he is considering warm white XP-G's

Bill
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I guess thats what happens when 600 OTF lumens is not enough in a small 6P type light. :grin2::grin2::grin2:


There are warm XP-G variants now????:party:
 
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I'm waiting for the neutral/warm XPGs to become available before I buy any more emitters. After using the Malkoff M30W, M60W, M60W MC-E, and the Wildcat in warm white, I just can't see throwing away money on lights that don't have anything in the yellow-brown-red spectrum. The small perceived difference in raw power is completely worth the huge improvement in color fidelity.

I recently got a Nailbender SST50 M3 head for use on a shotgun. Even though it is not warm white, it tends toward the warm side of cool white, and has enough yellow in it to make wood look pretty recognizable.

I'm almost ready to try a high-CRI LED light, but they are all so darned expensive, if you can find one at all.
 
Re: when will Malkoff update their dropins?

Question for those more knowledgeable: Will the new Malkoff M61 (XP-G) put our more light than his MD3/4 Wildcat with ~ 550 lumens?

Or should one expect more light with his new XP-G versus a lesser Malkoff type, such as more lumens than from Mc-E?
 
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XP-G M61 will probably have an output somewhere between the current M60 and the M60 MC-E

M60 ~220ish
M61 Probably turn on around 300ish and maybe drop a bit
M60 MC-E turn on above 400 and maybe drop a bit

Edit: or... alternatively, the M61 may put out less light for longer... being a more efficient emitter. So could be between 200 and 250 but for longer than the current M60's on high
 
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