The Official Malkoff Junkie thread - Part 2

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I have put 2x18350's in my MD2 and run my Houd Dog. The Wildcat has a much better look on the MD2 as the Hound Dog looks a little front heavy. Nice for cargo pants pocket carry though.
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Hmm, I never thought about the wildcat with 2 18350's before. I have been running my Hound Dog XM-L with 2 CR123's, but haven't tried it yet with an 18650. I was hoping to keep more of the slimmer profile of a P60 head, but I will admit it's awesome having that much light in a small package.

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I carry my Hound Dogs and Wildcats with 2 x 18350 most of the time.
I only use the longer bodies when I know I will be needing more run time. I carry a spare pair of 18350 in my Oveready delrin battery carrier.
I have a charger in my truck, so I can recharge when I'm out, if necessary.
 
I got a great deal on a Hound Dog XM-L in the Marketplace mounted on a MD3 tube. I added an SF A19. I like this setup because on low beam the light looks and performs like any run of the mill light you can find at a big box store. A small rotation of the bezel and shazzam, nothing hides in that beam! The low beam actually makes the light very practical, plenty of punch and I would guess a long runtime on 4 primaries. The high beam makes me giggle.
 
greatscoot said:
I usually use 3x123 in an MD3 body. For me that is the perfect size.

@jonesy: Hound Dog will not run on a single 18650.
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that's what I used to do, too, but 2x 18500. ;)

do you see any output benefit with 3x CR123 cells over 2x 18500? if we're purely going based on label capacity, an AW protected 18500 is rated for 1500 mAh like a standard CR123. Is there a reason you're not using rechargeable Li-ions?

edit: does anyone have some good tint comparisons of the NW (4000K) Wildcat next to the tint of a NW (5000K) Hound Dog? I used to have a cool white Hound Dog but sold it because I wanted warmer tint. I realize they've (the WC vs. HD) have totally different beam profiles and emitters, but are the tints roughly similar?

I always associated 5000K tints as usually being a creamy-ish white, whereas my 4000K Wildcat was a pretty warm tint. Are the NW Hound Dog and Wildcats radically different so far as how neutral they are?
 
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My Malkoff Hound Dog Neutral is definitely not warm in tint .... It was listed at 5000K, and that seems reasonable ( 5000-5500K ? ) .

I had asked before, were any Hound Dogs produced in warmer tints ( ≤ 4000-4500K ) , but no one replied :o
 
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tobrien said:
that's what I used to do, too, but 2x 18500. ;)

do you see any output benefit with 3x CR123 cells over 2x 18500? if we're purely going based on label capacity, an AW protected 18500 is rated for 1500 mAh like a standard CR123. Is there a reason you're not using rechargeable Li-ions?
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3xCR123 (1500mAh) - 3.0v x 1.5Ah x 3 = 13.5 Watt/hours
2x18500 (1500mAh) - 3.7v x 1.5Ah x 2 = 11.1 Watt/hours

Someone may want to double check my maths...
 
tobrien said:
do you see any output benefit with 3x CR123 cells over 2x 18500? if we're purely going based on label capacity, an AW protected 18500 is rated for 1500 mAh like a standard CR123. Is there a reason you're not using rechargeable Li-ions?
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I just took a couple quick lux measurements with a Neutral HD which delivered 21730 lux with freshly charged 18500s, while new CR123s provided 21510 lux.

This isn't quite what I expected.
 
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Random Dan said:
3xCR123 (1500mAh) - 3.0v x 1.5Ah x 3 = 13.5 Watt/hours
2x18500 (1500mAh) - 3.7v x 1.5Ah x 2 = 11.1 Watt/hours

Someone may want to double check my maths...
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You could also do: 4.2v x 1.5Ah x 2 = 12.6 Watt/hours (Optimistic equation!) :)


My 18500 Sanyo cells are 1700mAh each so: 3.7v x 1.7Ah x 2 = 12.58 Watt/hours
 
archimedes said:
My Malkoff Hound Dog Neutral is definitely not warm in tint .... It was listed at 5000K, and that seems reasonable ( 5000-5500K ? ) .

I had asked before, were any Hound Dogs produced in warmer tints ( ≤ 4000-4500K ) , but no one replied :o
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I have a warm HD, S/N 0141, purchased from GLOCK 22, who I think may have bought it from Weklund. It's way warmer than the HD XM-L neutral I bought from Gene, S/N 0722. I don't have a single white wall in the entire house, so the silly garage door will have to do. Shot about 8 feet away...way too close!...then cropped for content.

disclaimer: I am not a photographer. obviously. hope the pic helps tho...

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funny how the "pinkishness" really looks worse in a picture than it does to the eye...
 
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Wilmette said:
I have a warm HD, S/N 0141, purchased from GLOCK 22, who I think may have bought it from Weklund. It's way warmer than the HD XM-L neutral I bought from Gene, S/N 0722. I don't have a single white wall in the entire house, so the silly garage door will have to do. Shot about 8 feet away...way too close!...then cropped for content.

disclaimer: I am not a photographer. obviously. hope the pic helps tho....

funny how the "pinkishness" really looks worse in a picture than it does to the eye...
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Looks great to me :D

Thanks very much ! ( ... and your photo skills are better than mine ) - :)
 
What kind of run time can I expect running an MD2 Wildcat on high with an AW protected 18650 (2200)? Also, will there be any sign that the battery is getting low or will it just blink out? Thanks.
 
Tracker II said:
What kind of run time can I expect running an MD2 Wildcat on high with an AW protected 18650 (2200)? Also, will there be any sign that the battery is getting low or will it just blink out? Thanks.
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I think you mean MD4 right? just want to make it clear that an MD2 body can accept 2x 16340 or 18350.

Assuming you meant MD4, I had a WC (NW 4000K) on two 3400 mAh AWs in an MD4 and, although I never ran down the cells, I believe all the WC will do at real low voltage is shut off entirely. I get that notion from this on the WC page:
Three CR123 primaries will only provide about 15-20 minutes of continous full output due the batteries inability to provide current and maintain voltage
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so if we assume the three CR123s ran down to 2.8v in this example, that'd be about 8.4 volts, but that's the same roughly as two topped-off Li-ions, so I think your only problem will be whether or not your two protected 18650 cells can simply provide enough current.

I'm not an expert so this post may not have helped anyone lol :(
 
The Wildcat can be used with an MD2 with a single 18650. The output is lower. You still retain both high/low modes. I haven't test the runtime with a single 18650. The Hounddog can not be used with a single 18650.
 
I happen to have a couple AW 2200 mAh 18650s and a Neutral Wildcat. I can top of the cell and run a test after lunch. Since it will be starting out below the regulation point, the light will simply continue to dim until the cell protection circuit kicks in. There will be no warning.

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