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  1. 01-19-2012, 06:23 PM #1201
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
Wow, hard to believe this thread has over 1200 posts and 150 junkies!!!
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And no **** throwing matches to boot!
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I think I want to see how long my M30 will go on a CR123.
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01-19-2012, 06:50 PM #1202
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
I would say that the "Malkoff Junkie" thread is the most famous around here. If this thread has a new post when I log on, it gets read first. For me, the Malkoff's is what really ignited my flashlight passion to what it is today. There are alot of completely awesome manufacturers and lights to choose from today and you cant really go wrong with just about any of em. I could not say that when I first joined CPF just a little over three years ago. When it's all said and done, you cannot go wrong with a Malkoff. If Gene makes it, Im automatically drawn to it like a magnet. I would say it is the same for the rest of you all?​


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^^^^^^^Yeeeeah Budddy!
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01-19-2012, 07:06 PM #1204
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Wow, hard to believe this thread has over 1200 posts and 150 junkies!!!
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Try that with a Surefire thread!
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I agree that basically anything Gene touches is the Gold Standard for craftsmanship, brightness, and durability. I love, and have a lot of different brand lights...Surefire, 4Sevens, Fenix, Wolfeyes, Nitecore, Novatac, Peak, Solarforce, Mag, Streamlight, etc, but if my life is depending on my flashlight, I'll grab a Malkoff every time. It may be an MD2, or it may be a Surefire C2, 6P, 9P, G2, or other lights, but it will be more than likely powered by Malkoff.​





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01-20-2012, 03:39 AM #1205
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This 'bug' has bitten me hard. My most recent favorite is the Neutral M60F - picked it up from Oveready. They have Neutral as well as warm variants on several of our favorites. I picked up an M61NLL also and it is a tint that rivals my beloved Haiku high CRI!

UPDATE!

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On the way - an aluminum VME head, a Malkoff "Lil Twisty" flat tail, and an M31LL.

On my wish list? The M60 is perfect for a weapon light, and considering the awesome run time of the Malkoff M60 / Elzetta combo on 2 primaries, on 3 it would have to be fantastic, so I'm wishing for a 3 cell Elzetta host....

Long running thread with no stones thrown or p*ssing matches? It's a beautiful thing - and these Malkoff products are simply fantastic. Where the heck have I been all this time!!
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Better late than never!!
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01-20-2012, 03:46 AM #1206
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
Can you fit a pocket clip to the Hound Dog?

Thanks!

Btw, just got my first M60 drop-in. However, although I like the beam's profile the tint is too warm for me. After looking at photos of several Malkoff drop-ins from a link that one of the members posted.

http://thebrightsideforums.com/viewt...p?f=26&p=10981

I'm gravitating to the M61's cool white tint and (what seems to be a) brighter, profile then the M61L.

This drop in is going in a C2 host that's bored out to an 18650.

Thanks again!


Well, .... I went ahead an ordered the M61!​


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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
I would be one step closer to being a junkie IF SOMEONE WOULD SELL ME THEIR M60W! THESE THINGS ARE SO DARN HARD TO FIND! I only own a single M60 at the moment and refuse to buy any other brand drop-in! I want my M60W!!!​


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01-20-2012, 10:04 PM #1208
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
Oveready has what you are looking for available now. It is the M60N. I had a M60NF and it was a very nice tint, but traded it with another member for a more expensive surefire.​


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01-20-2012, 10:26 PM #1209
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Based on a single M31WL I'm completely confident of Malkoff's work, understated, over engineered, mine works fine on a single AA as Not recommended. ;-)​


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01-20-2012, 10:34 PM #1210
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
Wow, love the white of that M60! Does the M60 have tint variations? Cause the M60 I got is really warm.

Edit: Just re-read my receipt from Oveready and my M60 is a M60N. So I guess that's the reason for it being on the warm side!​


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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]

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Originally Posted by kyhunter1
Oveready has what you are looking for available now. It is the M60N. I had a M60NF and it was a very nice tint, but traded it with another member for a more expensive surefire.



Gee... Forgive me for I've been away from CPF for a while. Lots of things I missed during that time. So the M60W of old is the current M60N?

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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]

Can you fit a pocket clip to the Hound Dog?


Hi Pops,

Although Gene has been out of the Delrin Tailcap Shroud w/ Clip for quite awhile, they can be had and it's a solution that works very well and provides for tailstanding. Another solution is to switch out the MD tailcap with a Moddoo Triad tailcap w/ clip.

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01-21-2012, 03:57 PM #1213
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Hi Pops,

Although Gene has been out of the Delrin Tailcap Shroud w/ Clip for quite awhile, they can be had and it's a solution that works very well and provides for tailstanding. Another solution is to switch out the MD tailcap with a Moddoo Triad tailcap w/ clip.

John



Gene has assured me the Delrin Tailcap Shroud w/clip has been redesigned for the MD2 without the Shroud. He was expecting them in stock by the end of December 2011. I am patiently awaiting their arrival.​





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01-21-2012, 05:21 PM #1214
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
Does anybody have lux readings for the Hound Dog, Hound Dog XM-L, M60, or M61? I understand that each has its relative strengths, but some hard numbers would be nice.​





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01-21-2012, 05:52 PM #1215
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
eh4- Details, please, on the 1xAA usage. I've got an E2e body with sleeve and spacer for 1xAA and would like to hear of your experiences... Output? Runtime? Cells used? Etc... Thanks!​





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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
well scout24, I'm in the silly position where I ordered the M31WL thinking that I could drop it into my old E2E and the fact is that I can't do that without also getting the VME head (be careful, I might be mistaken). I'm honestly not exactly sure what I was going to do with that option anyways, as 2 CR123 in the E2E body would have FRIED the M31WL. (I guess I needed one of those AA inserts you mentioned)
So what I'm going to do is order Malkoff's 2 AA Little Twisty, but I just haven't gotten around to allocating an additional 55$ yet.
In the mean time I was just fooling around and took the battery tube of my old CMG Infinity, dropped the tail spring from an old minimag down into it and then an Eneloop. The lens of that same minimag fits in the rim of the M31WL perfectly to keep dust out of the reflector, a little duct tape holds the lens in place and gives the whole arrangement a touch of class.
So I'm just holding the head in the pinky side of my hand and pushing the old CMG body against it with my thumb, pretty sad but it's momentary only! ;-)
As silly as it is it actually works well enough that the arrangement stays in the watch pocket of my jeans until I order that Little Twisty body, even then I'm going to look at the head and threads to see about making a single AA body and tap a momentary switch in the end of it.
I've measured 2 amps with the single AA, and I've gotten about an hour of intermittent use out of it with a single Eneloop.
I've also messed with wiring up a 10 ohm resistor to the apacrapus and it ran for about 12 hours on one Eneloop.
It's a beautiful light, I like it lots better than the original 60 lumen incandescent Surefire bulb... which ran for about an hour on 2 CR123s.




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01-22-2012, 04:19 AM #1217
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Nice!
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Originally Posted by vincent3664
Gene has assured me the Delrin Tailcap Shroud w/clip has been redesigned for the MD2 without the Shroud. He was expecting them in stock by the end of December 2011. I am patiently awaiting their arrival.




Thanks Guys! ...
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Nice!
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+1.
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Now that's determination!
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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
I have a M61WL in a Surefire G3 host. Last night for fun, I put a set of Energizer lithium primary AA's in it. It was pretty bright, say 30 lumens. I pulled em as to not waist a perfectly good set of AA's that I keep around for emergency use. I will not put any alkalines in my lights as to not take a chance on leakage unless I absoultely have no other option. A set of energizer AA nimh's went it. Start up was around 3-5 lumens. It is now over 10 hours later and it is still going. I would say that brightness is ~ 1 lumen at this point or just slightly brighter than a quark 123^2 on moon mode. This is a versatile light with it's battery vampire capabilities. Can run on 2x li, or up to 3x 123, or even AA's regardless of chemistry in a pinch for many hours? of low output. Let's call it the Malkoff moon mode. Gotta love this stuff, and I never get tired of it. ​



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Originally Posted by run4jc
On my wish list? The M60 is perfect for a weapon light, and considering the awesome run time of the Malkoff M60 / Elzetta combo on 2 primaries, on 3 it would have to be fantastic, so I'm wishing for a 3 cell Elzetta host....

Long running thread with no stones thrown or p*ssing matches? It's a beautiful thing - and these Malkoff products are simply fantastic. Where the heck have I been all this time!!
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Better late than never!!
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The Elzetta is already offered in either a 2 cell or a 3 cell configuration. Just go to their website and you will find this:

ZFL-M60 Bodies: 3-Cell & 2-Cell

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Re: The official Malkoff Junkie thread.[/h]
I have the 3-cell Elzetta.
I bought it specifically for the added versatility of alternative battery combinations which the 3-cell body allows.​





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01-22-2012, 09:49 AM #1223
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eh4- Thanks! Good info! Here's my 1xAA setup for now, I'm going to give it some runtime to see how it works. Ti VME Head, M31L (I'm going to try an M61WLL later) on an E2L body. Eneloop with sleeve and a homemade aluminum spacer. tailcap is a two speed clicky, 22ohm that after emailing back and forth with Milky, I believe came from him. Twist on or off, click between hi and low. In this configuration, the 2spd works great. I tried it with 2x123, and the M60 out of my Elzetta, and low was only a bit lower than high. I'm a bit nervous running single Eneloops or alkalines like this, I'm worried about frying one. Any thoughts, Malkoff gurus?
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I have the 3-cell Elzetta.
I bought it specifically for the added versatility of alternative battery combinations which the 3-cell body allows.



I consider that as an advantage apart from better runtime compared to 2cell. All kind of AAs as well as 14500s can be used.​


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Well, run for 1 hour so far on an Eneloop of questionable status, it has been sitting for quite a while, neglected. Low no longer works, and high is down to a lumen or two. But, nothing blew up!
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I've got four Eneloops on my Maha, I'll let them cool and try again with a fresh cell. Light did get a bit warmer than room temperature about 1/2 hour in, but no electronics smell or smoke...​





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nice one eh4
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scout, let us know if the M61LL will fire up on a single AA. Might justify my next purchase if it does. (EDIT: looks like it does work if your post abov is in regards to a single AA and M61LL)



The M31s are definitely vampires... ran down a single alkaline to .44v(35hrs, starting a used cell at 1.11V) until there was not enough useful light for anything. (pg. 31, post 918)​


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Originally Posted by twl
I have the 3-cell Elzetta.
I bought it specifically for the added versatility of alternative battery combinations which the 3-cell body allows.



I'd LOVE an Elzetta 3-cell with an M91 in it for my Rem 870.
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The Elzetta is already offered in either a 2 cell or a 3 cell configuration. Just go to their website and you will find this:

ZFL-M60 Bodies: 3-Cell & 2-Cell





Oh, I know. Already have 2 - 2 cell - and a 3 cell is on the way. Just voicing my desire in that post, and since then the order has been placed! Thanks for the help!
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Wow that titanium VME head looks nice up close.
as for being hard on the Eneloops, I just picked two out and have marked them with a magic marker, they're my designated "hard life" Eneloops.​


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My M61WL on 2 x AA nimh's is nearing the 17 hour mark and the brightness is about the same as a quark on moon mode.​


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Picked up the latest Hound-dog XP-G yesterday from James Rand here in Australia. This is far and away my best 'thrower' & at the same time carries a very impressive spill out to about 150+yards which gives the best of both worlds.

This has to be the perfect set-up and the beam is a perfect white, intense at the hotspot with a seamless transition to the creamiest white spill I've ever seen: Lovely and solid and with a quality previously only seen in HDS.GT but with so much more power: No rings, no off colors, no rubbish, just pure white light! (MD3 - 2x18500 AW's).

Thank you James and Gene, this 'light is unbelievable.
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I'd LOVE an Elzetta 3-cell with an M91 in it for my Rem 870.
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Why? I have the 2-cell on an 870 with an 18.5" barrel. It's about 5" long; the 3-cell is over 6", too big for a weapons light, especially on a short-barreled shotgun, IMO. Also, a weapons light does not require the long run times of a handheld.​





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Why? I have the 2-cell on an 870 with an 18.5" barrel. It's about 5" long; the 3-cell is over 6", too big for a weapons light, especially on a short-barreled shotgun, IMO. Also, a weapons light does not require the long run times of a handheld.



It's because the M91 needs the higher voltage range of the 3 cells.​





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Yeah, you're probably right... Maybe for the Mossberg 590 it would work... Elzetta 2-cell with an M61 for the win
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Just re-read my receipt from Oveready and my M60 is a M60N.



'N's are also engraved/labeled on their side (M60N, M61NLL, etc).​





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Is there any beamshots anywhere showing what the M60N is like in comparison to the W models? I tend to prefer neutral but would like to see it if I could cos' I'm thinking about getting another drop-in to add to my M30 (which is in a cobbled together host), an M91 in an MD2 and an XM-l hound dog on an MD4.​





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I noticed that some of the Malkoff drop-ins are made for specific businesses. Like this M60N and the M61HCRI. They are not carried on the Malkoff website, and when I sent an E-mail asking about it, Gene stated that the companies provide the LED, and he just makes them up.​





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Can the M61HCRI run for extended periods of time in a G2 Nitrolon without overheating?​





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I would think so. Its only 125 lumens, mine never got remotely hot in an E2d/VME head.​





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Can the M61HCRI run for extended periods of time in a G2 Nitrolon without overheating?


Don't do it.

This quote is from the Malkoff website, for the M61W, which is comparable to the M61HCRI:


Operating the unit for more than 15 continuous minutes in plastic lights may cause damage to the drop-in module. This is not an issue in metal lights


I think that the previous respondent may have been thinking of the M61LHCRI, because of the reference to 125 lumens.

Using a metal bezel with a G2 might help somewhat, but it's not the same as an all-metal light wicking the heat away from the led, and I wouldn't want to press my luck, risking something as lovely as a Malkoff drop-in. ​



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M61LHCRI



Does this exist?​





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Does this exist?



Yes. Check out www.illuminationsupply.com​






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Craig of IlluminationSupply.com had a limited production run of Malkoff M61 modules made in the past, using the HCRI emitter, for all three power levels. They sold out, and the only HCRI Malkoff he currently has for sale is the M61HCRI. ​






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Does this exist?



I've only seen the M61HCRI (no "L" designation), but the performance is more similar to the M61L than it is the M61.​





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Ahh yes, but the M61HCRI is only 150 lumens. Not that much of a difference. I mean is it really going to get that hot? I can run an M61LL thats 100 lumens for literally over 5 hours and there is 0 increase in heat. Will 150 lumens with that heat sink actually even heat up? The M61W is pushing 240 lumens. Almost 100 more. Now if brightness does not correlate to heat than perhaps I am mistaken.​





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You have to look more at the current than the brightness.​





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150 lumens of Hi-CRI is amazingly nice. Colors are MUCH richer than with a cool white emitter, so the 100 lumen difference isn't as noticeable as you would think. However, these days I find myself carrying a 240 lumen neutral white M61W which has less rich color but better whites (~4500K color temperature).

As for heat, I'd be uncomfortable putting the M61 in a plastic body, unless it is an L or LL low power version. If the light is left on full power for an extended time, it might damage the emitter or melt the plastic body. Also, lithium batteries don't do well when exposed to extreme heat, you could cause the batteries to "vent with flame."​


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So why does the M61HCRI put out 150 lumens for 2 "tactical" hours, but the regular M61 puts out 260 lumens for 2 "tactical" hours?

Does the nature of the HCRI emitter cause output to be lessened by that large of a degree?​





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So why does the M61HCRI put out 150 lumens for 2 "tactical" hours, but the regular M61 puts out 260 lumens for 2 "tactical" hours?

Does the nature of the HCRI emitter cause output to be lessened by that large of a degree?



Yes.
According to the explanation I read, the HCRI and even the warm emitters require more coating to be globbed on to the emitter, to get this "color".
And this reduces the output by as much as 1/3 to 1/2, comparted to the cool emitter levels from the same LED type.
So, at this time, anytime you pick a warm version of an emitter, including HCRI, you lose quite a bit of output. If you pick a neutral tint, the output loss is not as much. If you pick a cool tint, there is essentially no output loss.
IMO, the tint isn't worth the loss in output, but others think differently and like the tint enough to sacrifice that amount of output.
I personally don't even like a warm tint, so I wouldn't go there at all anyway. But others do.​


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IMO, the tint isn't worth the loss in output, but others think differently and like the tint enough to sacrifice that amount of output.
I personally don't even like a warm tint, so I wouldn't go there at all anyway. But others do.



As an airplane mechanic I prefer warm and hi cri lights over output. Fatigue cracks in aluminum and titanium turbine blades just don't show with cool white lights. Before I started using warm and hi cri leds for inspecting I had to use incan lights because I couldn't see the cracks using cool white leds even though I liked the efficiency and durability of leds (a few small cracks in aluminum will not be devastating for a long time but a tiny crack on a turbine blade could result in a catastrophy). Now I only buy warm and hi cri led lights and no longer have ANY cool white lights.​





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My PSM induced Malkoff (and Elzetta) madness continues to grow. Today one of my favorite people, the US Postal Service carrier, delivered packages from Elzetta and Gene...
A new aluminum VME head...
A new Lil Twisty
An M31LL
A couple of lens kits..
And from Elzetta, a 3 cell ZFL-M60 SF3D (3 cell, M60 flood, hi/lo switch.) Took the body and swapped it with my ZFL-M60 CS2S (2 cell crenelated hi/strobe) to give me 3 primaries power on my AR. Took the M60F, plain bezel and hi/lo and mounted it to the 2 cell body and it makes a great dog walking light. That Malkoff M60F is an AWESOME lamp! Around 200 lumen of nice, even, pseudo concentrated flood.
M31LL and a primary went into the little twisty...
New VME head swallowed an M61NLL and joined with a VG 1 cell body, and gives an awesome 40 lumen, beautifully tinted, shades of a Haiku High CRI.

So the Malkoff collection is now:
M60 x 2
M60F
M60NF
M61
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And I love 'em all! What's next! ​






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'N's are also engraved/labeled on their side (M60N, M61NLL, etc).



Yeah thanks, the mistake I made when I placed my order for the M60 is I didn't select the M60 Cool in the engine option. So it was my bad, one thing I have to learn is to go over everything before ordering stuff online!

I will say the warm tint on the M60N shows colors well (if I'm describing it correctly), but since I use it for work. I'd much rather have the brightness and throw of the cool tinted emiters.​


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And I love 'em all! What's next!



Nice Dan! Malkoff Madness!
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M91 or M91W is the way to go. You'll love it! ​







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M91 will require the 3 cell body. 450 lumens. Very powerful P60 module.

I would really recommend trying out the dedicated high power lights like the Wildcat and Hound Dog. The head is larger(1.8" diameter) but the length is still about like the Elzetta. They are not all that big, but the head is too big for the pocket. They are belt holster lights, or a coat pocket light.
It's a whole other world than the drop-ins.
I like the drop-ins fine, and they are great, but I think the dedicated lights like HD and Wildcat are quite the step up overall from the modules.
The XML Hound Dog is 750 lumens,and the Wildcat is 900 lumens, and these lights don't do any step-downs for thermal throttling. They are thermally stable. Most other high powered lights like that are using step-downs after a few minutes to allow the light to cool down. These Malkoffs don't need to do that. How many 900 lumen lights do you know of that don't need to step down for thermal management, and don't sag much either, and don't require IMR batteries, and can even run on primaries?
These things are serious lights. And their beam quality is awesome. And they are built like precision laboratory instruments. When you handle one, you will be impressed.​


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Well, honestly, it was a rhetorical question, but thanks for the tips. I am interested in all of the products - not so much for their blinding light as much as for the extreme, bomb proof construction and QUALITY BEAMS. I have no doubt that the M91 and the Hound Dog or Wildcat lights will be awesome! (But first an MD2 with hi/lo ring!) Now if only to have an unlimited bank account!!
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According to the explanation I read, the HCRI and even the warm emitters require more coating to be globbed on to the emitter, to get this "color".



For those who may not yet be aware, the LED "die" (the semiconductor itself) of white LEDs (at least all of the ones we're considering) actually emits blue light in a fairly narrow set of wavelengths, usually centered around a tall peak near 450 nm--this is practically monochromatic light. A layer of phosphor is used to convert a substantial portion of this blue light into a broad spectrum from green to red, while letting some of the blue light through. Generally the conversion process, putting all other sources of inefficiency aside for the moment, is photon-for-photon, which inherently loses energy because blue photons have more energy than photons of other wavelengths. In turn this lost energy causes a build-up of heat within the phosphor layer, which reduces the efficiency of the entire system and limits its maximum output. In the simplest case, more of the same type of phosphor is used to create neutral and warm white LEDs, which progressively become less efficient.

As for HCRI LEDs, they are different in some ways. There are many different types of phosphors that have highly variable emission spectra, and some are more efficient than others. Normal LEDs typically use the most efficient types that result in reasonable color rendering, but achieving a higher CRI usually requires using a combination of phosphors (or specially-tailored phosphors) that together provide smoother and more complete coverage of the visible spectrum. There is some cost in efficiency involved with this, although the overall efficiency of an LED depends on a variety of factors--for example, a neutral or cool white HCRI LED may still be more efficient than a warm white normal-CRI LED because less phosphor is used in the former overall.


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If you pick a neutral tint, the output loss is not as much. If you pick a cool tint, there is essentially no output loss.



Sure, there is no output loss when you compare cool white to cool white
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, but if you're talking about cool white versus the naked LED die, it's a bit more complicated. Using any phosphor at all, which of course is the case with even cool white LEDs, will result in a loss of efficiency and output in terms of radiant flux, which is simply the energy that is being radiated by the LED. However, what we're really concerned about is luminous flux, which is the effective amount of usable "light" energy, and is not the same as radiant flux because our eyes are not particularly sensitive to pure blue light. Radiant flux is converted to luminous flux in accordance with the following curve that maps the sensitivity of the human eye to various wavelengths of visible light:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CI...Luminosity.png

What this means is that using some phosphor, despite its inefficiency, actually significantly increases the effective efficiency of the LED...up to a point, that is, which is basically where cool white LEDs are.


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IMO, the tint isn't worth the loss in output, but others think differently and like the tint enough to sacrifice that amount of output.



Some people may have a purely aesthetic preference for warmer tints, but for others, like me, vision is mostly about contrast, and warmer tints can provide superior color contrast in many situations. Neutral white LEDs only give up around 15% output in the most common types of LEDs used in flashlights, and I think that is more than a fair tradeoff for improved contrast, which is far more noticeable (at least to some people).


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I personally don't even like a warm tint, so I wouldn't go there at all anyway. But others do.



In my view, warm white goes past the point of diminishing returns because it favors orange/red over blue, but it still may be more effective for certain uses, and of course some people may simply prefer it.


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As an airplane mechanic I prefer warm and hi cri lights over output. Fatigue cracks in aluminum and titanium turbine blades just don't show with cool white lights. Before I started using warm and hi cri leds for inspecting I had to use incan lights because I couldn't see the cracks using cool white leds even though I liked the efficiency and durability of leds (a few small cracks in aluminum will not be devastating for a long time but a tiny crack on a turbine blade could result in a catastrophy). Now I only buy warm and hi cri led lights and no longer have ANY cool white lights.



In general, always use the best overall tool for the job, and I think that cool white--at normal CRIs, which is currently pretty much all there is on the market, unfortunately--is less than ideal for many purposes. That said, it might be better for certain purposes, such as seeing some kinds of smoke (pointed out to me by an auto mechanic).​





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You can actually run an M91 in the MD2 host with 2 AW18350s. Works nicely. Quite the pocket rocket. Run times aren't excellent but its a big amount of light in a relatively small package.​





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GaAslamp, thank you for that extremely informative post, expressed in language that even I can understand. I am bookmarking it as a referencing, in case I ever have to try to explain led tint issues to a non-flashoholic.​





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GaAslamp, thank you for that extremely informative post, expressed in language that even I can understand. I am bookmarking it as a referencing, in case I ever have to try to explain led tint issues to a non-flashoholic.



+1, went to school on that one, nice!

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Thanks GaAslamp for the superb lesson!!!

I would so love to have a M91N... I used my M61N today in a dark attic and it is simply outstanding!​






 
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I won't slip into the warms vs cool debate too much except to say that I need a warmer light for some things.

I'm a core logging geologist some times, and the best light to log core in is sunlight, followed closely by very bright, even halogen lights... but unfortunately, on rainy days, or when sampling coal from cored sections, we are inside and have fluro lights... not very bright ones either. Its okay for walking around, but close up work it strains the eyes. We tried lamps, but the directional angle was fixed, and wet core reflects light, and colours are lost. I tried a few HCRI LEDs but gave up on the beam and brightness (particularly the preon HCRI and HDS HCRI, they are great, but the beam is not the best)

I finally built a combo I think will change my habits for picking between very stony coal and carb muds, I have put a M91W with a LDF coated lens, in a MD2 body and have 2x18350's in there. For weekend use, I can swap the body for either the MD3, or an MD4 and run any cells up to 12v.

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Just ordered up a 2aa twisty with a M31. Cant wait to try it out. Also have a M60 in an Elzetta host as well, actually trying to sell this one to fund a Wildcat though.​


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Just ordered up a 2aa twisty with a M31. Cant wait to try it out.



You will LOVE that set up!
I had one and the output was simply amazing.​





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I read throught the M31 thread and saw your beamshot photos, thats what sold me on it. Looked awesome for a 2AA light, and its a Malkoff so you know the quality is some of the best there is.​





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I was just now going to give you the link to my posts over there ;-)
It's truly a monster for AA output.
When it worked in my Javelin, I was as happy as a pig in poop.
Go past my beamshots and you'll see the Javy photos.

Today, I have a M31W in a SureFire G3-FYL w/2 Eneloops and a Z59 clicky.​


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I now have a mint V1 Wildcat coming my way next week as well! Gonna pick up a MD4 and some 18650's for it. Gonna be a good week coming up.​





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I now have a mint V1 Wildcat coming my way next week as well! Gonna pick up a MD4 and some 18650's for it. Gonna be a good week coming up.



I predict you will really like that V1 Wildcat.
Having all 3 versions myself, I can say that the perceived brightness level of the 600 lumen V1 is very similar to the other versions which have higher lumens. It doesn't seem as though the light has any less power than the other two, when actually using it. And it has a really fun wide spotlight beam, that I like a lot. And the soft-white tint is beautiful! It's a stunning light.
I have all 3, and I have toyed with the idea of selling one of them because I think, "Why do I need 3 Wildcats?" But, you know, I can't bring myself to part with any of them because they are all different, and I like all of them for what they bring to the table.

I think that gettting the MD4 is a good choice for it because the XRE efficiency is a bit less than the later emitters, so having the extra battery capacity is very good for extending the runtime.

You will be having some fun!​





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Thanks for the description on the Wildcat. I ordered up a MD4 and some Redilast 3100mah batteries this morning.​





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My, oh my. Ordered another VME head from Gene and a AA Twisty body from Craig....then today I get that eagerly anticipated notice that Gene has the MD2 Turn Key 2 Level packages back in stock!! M61 goodness in a 2 level Malkoff host!! So you know I ordered one of those, too!

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I found your comments on the versions of the Wildcat MD3 interesting. I searched some but didn't find what seemed like a good summary of the differences, beyond your post. Is there such a thread that you know of, or are there other comments you'd make on the differences?

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I predict you will really like that V1 Wildcat.
Having all 3 versions myself, I can say that the perceived brightness level of the 600 lumen V1 is very similar to the other versions which have higher lumens. It doesn't seem as though the light has any less power than the other two, when actually using it. And it has a really fun wide spotlight beam, that I like a lot. And the soft-white tint is beautiful! It's a stunning light.
I have all 3, and I have toyed with the idea of selling one of them because I think, "Why do I need 3 Wildcats?" But, you know, I can't bring myself to part with any of them because they are all different, and I like all of them for what they bring to the table.

I think that gettting the MD4 is a good choice for it because the XRE efficiency is a bit less than the later emitters, so having the extra battery capacity is very good for extending the runtime.

You will be having some fun!



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Here ya go. this one describes all three pretty well.
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Yikes, how'd I miss that?
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Here ya go. this one describes all three pretty well.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...t=wildcat+beam



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Thanks for the description on the Wildcat. I ordered up a MD4 and some Redilast 3100mah batteries this morning.



Let us know how/if those batteries fit. I have Callies Customs 3100mah batteries and they do not fit in my MD3 or MD2. They BARELY fit in my bugsy bored C3, but not in either of my other bored SF's. (6P/C2)​





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Ive been scrubbing this forum for quite a while about the Wildcats. I knew just where to go.
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My V1 head arrived today but my batteries and MD4 host wont be here until tomorrow, gonna be a long day at work knowing whats waiting for me. I got my 2-aa twisty and m31 today though, that will hold me over. lol​





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Let us know how/if those batteries fit. I have Callies Customs 3100mah batteries and they do not fit in my MD3 or MD2. They BARELY fit in my bugsy bored C3, but not in either of my other bored SF's. (6P/C2)



I will post it up as soon as I find out. My fingers are crossed, not sure If I can wait until next week to turn this thing on if they dont.​


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I will post it up as soon as I find out. My fingers are crossed, not sure If I can wait until next week to turn this thing on if they dont.



The Wildcat V1 has a 12v max, so you can use 4 primary CR123 if you need to.​





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thats awesome that you two, twl and diesel79 are enjoying your wildcats that both were purchased from me recently. the wildcats are some of the finest malkoff pruducts ever produced bar none. and twl, what a great write up on them tahnk you for your efforts, im sure others who have read it now have them in their sights. lol ​






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Thank you! I am now going to be on the look out for a V2, just in case the wife needs one too.
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The Redilast 18650 3100mah fit in my MD4. There is very little to no extra room, they pretty much let enough air escape around them and slowly slide in. I just sold one of my other lights. Thinking of replacing it with a MD2 with high/low swithch and a M61LL and running it off an 18650. The Redilast also fit in my MD2 with no problems as well.​


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I just placed an order for a Malkoff M61n from Oveready with a fitting ring for my new burnt bronze cerakoted C2 with a M2 bezel. I had a great phone conversation with Gene about the drop-in selection and how the fitting ring works. He is a really nice guy and it's a pleasure doing business with him! Keep up the great work Gene, I am definitely a fan of your craftsmanship!

The M61n will go well with my M61LHICRI! ​






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I just got my first Malkoff M91 today, and two more Malkoff's on the way. Big fan awsome light, love everything about it. Had the pleasure of talking with Gene on the phone the other day, great guy.
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My Lights: (Surefire) Fury, G2 with M61NLLL, 9P with M91N, 9P with Oveready Triple L1N XPG, 9P with M91W, 6P with M61N, 6P with Custom M61W XML, 6P GM with M61WLLL, (Eagletac) P20C2 MKII XML T6. (Cree) C8 XRE
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Well Guys/Gals thanks to "hotlight", I'm a proud owner of a Hound Dog XM-L! After my partner drop it off this evening. I installed x2 18500's in it, fired him up, and the Hound Dog put a big smile on my face! I really appreciate how well machined this light is, just a straight forward bullet proof design!

I ordered a McClicky tailcap switch for it (snatched the last one in stock ... LOL) and will order a MD2 body as well.

Well that's about it! ... LOL​


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Check this out some may like this. Thanks Gene

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My Lights: (Surefire) Fury, G2 with M61NLLL, 9P with M91N, 9P with Oveready Triple L1N XPG, 9P with M91W, 6P with M61N, 6P with Custom M61W XML, 6P GM with M61WLLL, (Eagletac) P20C2 MKII XML T6. (Cree) C8 XRE
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What is that exactly now? An M61 driver with an XML?
I guess that begs the question, what are the respective drive levels?​


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Six sigma- even high reliability means a system designed to produce three failures out of every million iterations...
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02-03-2012, 12:23 PM #1285
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Oh, baby baby. Why did I wait so long!! Thanks, PSM and Scout24 for suggesting the MD2. My MD2 with hi/lo ring showed up today. M61 goodness - battery cell flexibility. Nice, crisp Clicky switch. Smooth, smooth, threads. Just an awesome, simple, bombproof light.

It prompted me to think of a new slogan..

Malkoff - no bling - very bright -and bombproof! ​






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What is that exactly now? An M61 driver with an XML?
I guess that begs the question, what are the respective drive levels?



Yes it's a custom M91W with a standard full output M61W driver, for my Surefire 6P. It's the first. I had him to build it to suit me, and it more than does that.
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My Lights: (Surefire) Fury, G2 with M61NLLL, 9P with M91N, 9P with Oveready Triple L1N XPG, 9P with M91W, 6P with M61N, 6P with Custom M61W XML, 6P GM with M61WLLL, (Eagletac) P20C2 MKII XML T6. (Cree) C8 XRE
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02-03-2012, 03:06 PM #1287
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So now the voltage range will be 3.4-9 volts, and you'll be able to use 2 CR123's, 2 Li-Ion's, or one Li-Ion? What will the current to the XM-L be, and the lumen output?

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Correct on the voltage range. Also done a tail current reading and it pulled 660 ma from 2 x 123's. Appears to be the same as any regular M61 ~ 1.4A to the led as far as the current draw. Definitely in the 300-350 lumen range. One 17670 Li-Ion, or 2 CR123's.





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So now the voltage range will be 3.4-9 volts, and you'll be able to use 2 CR123's, 2 Li-Ion's, or one Li-Ion? What will the current to the XM-L be, and the lumen output?

Bill



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After calling Mr. Malkoff this afternoon, I have a MD2 Body inbound for the HD! Before we hung up, he made sure I'd use the proper batteries (he went as far as to look for a source for me, which we (since I was online myself) did our search together). Somewhere during our conversation, we veered off talkig about our dog's, my business, his HD, my other US made lights e.g. Henry (HDS), Jason Hui (Prometheus), Michael (DEFT-edc), how I use the lights in my work, ... etc., etc. all the while Mrs. Malkoff (or I think that's who she was) was waiting to talk to me! When he finally gave the phone to her, she sounded like she was thinking, ... "Ok, you guy's done now?" ... LOL

This was the icing on the cake for the end of my morning (or in my case the end of my day)! Since our conversation happened after my boy Calvin, his sister Harlee "The Vicious Attack Dog" and I was invited to visit a construction site, drop off my proposal (at the same time to see some old friends who's building this project) to secure their site!


That's about it, ... Carry On! ... LOL











PS Don't say nothing, ... But Mr. & Mrs. Malkoff's gonna get a double layer box of Hawaiian Host Chocolate Covered Macadamia Nuts in the mail!


PPS Got some Hawaiian Sunshine on it's way to Alabama! ...
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After calling Mr. Malkoff this afternoon, I have a MD2 Body inbound for the HD! Before we hung up, he made sure I'd use the proper batteries (he went as far as to look for a source for me, which we (since I was online myself) did our search together). Somewhere during our conversation, we veered off talkig about our dog's, my business, his HD, my other US made lights e.g. Henry (HDS), Jason Hui (Prometheus), Michael (DEFT-edc), how I use the lights in my work, ... etc., etc. all the while Mrs. Malkoff (or I think that's who she was) was waiting to talk to me! When he finally gave the phone to her, she sounded like she was thinking, ... "Ok, you guy's done now?" ... LOL

This was the icing on the cake for the end of my morning (or in my case the end of my day)! Since our conversation happened after my boy Calvin, his sister Harlee "The Vicious Attack Dog" and I was invited to visit a construction site, drop off my proposal (at the same time to see some old friends who's building this project) to secure their site!


That's about it, ... Carry On! ... LOL











PS Don't say nothing, ... But Mr. & Mrs. Malkoff's gonna get a double layer box of Hawaiian Host Chocolate Covered Macadamia Nuts in the mail!


PPS Got some Hawaiian Sunshine on it's way to Alabama! ...
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I really enjoyed reading this post - this is one of quite a few such stories I've heard about Gene and Cathy. Being from Alabama I cannot help but have a natural affection for a business and product based there - and although I currently live in the DC area, I have my sights set on moving back to 'Bama as soon as I am able.

Cathy always answers emails promptly - she signs each packing slip with a nice note and signature - and although I haven't spoken personally to Gene, everyone who calls comments on how friendly and helpful he is on the phone.

And their products are just awesome.

So thanks for sharing your story 'Pops', and thanks to PSM for pushing me over the edge to begin enjoying Gene's awesome products. This is a great situation, an (American, Alabamian) entrepreneur doing it right! ​






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Thanks! It really made it Great Day!

Btw, how do y'all holster carry your Hound Dogs? I used my TN11's holster the past few nights, but it could use a larger hole at the bottom (since the tailcap has the shroud on it, which makes the switch quite recessed. I'd like to ad a few large o-rings to give the body a place for my hand to grip while clicking the switch, but it won't fit in the bottom hole. I'd chance cutting the holster, but I think the nylon will end up unraveling. And the o-rings won't work with the Nite Ize elastic holster as well).

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This is just awesome - you low, low lovers out there will truly appreciate this. I took my just received, brand new Malkoff MD2 with hi/lo ring and I removed the M61 and replaced it with my M31LL. Then I took one of the cool AA to 18650 adapters that Martin White makes, and dropped an Alkaline in and was thrilled with the result! I get 55 lumen on high and a wonderful, low .01 lumen on low. The photos below show the aforementioned Malkoff setup on the left, with a Thrunite Ti Firefly on low on the right - it is supposedly .04 lumen (my sphere agrees)

AWESOME!!!! I cannot imagine how long this little set up would run!
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Ooohhhh that's a pretty picture...
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Wow, the battery configs never end!
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PSM-That's one of the things that lured me in...
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MD2 is an awesome, versatile light.
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Wow, the battery configs never end!
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PSM-That's one of the things that lured me in...
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I just got back from a dog walk with the 'leftover' combination. The M31LL came out of a VME head and Malkoff 2 AA twisty. So I took the M61 from the MD2 and dropped it into the VME/AA twisty combo, and fed it with 2 14500 cells. AWESOME!! So plain and simple - twist it on, twist it off. No modes - no blinkies - not 9 million lumen
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I used to wonder why you guys had so many of the Malkoff light modules, but now I understand. They are just awesome, and these MD2 and Elzetta bodies are just awesome, bombproof, honest lights!​





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The Little Twisty with 2XIMR14500 and M91 is ........
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The Little Twisty with 2XIMR14500 and M91 is ........
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What kind of runtime do you get with that setup?​





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Here are some Malkoff beamshots for you all to take a look at.

GLOCK22 had a custom M61W with a XML made, and here is a comparison shot to a regular M61:

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GLOCK's Custom module on left with my M91W to the right. Much better rendition of the actual tint:

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M91 cool vs. M91W: Camera exaggerating the tint differential again.

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If Malkoff made a triple XML P60, this is kinda what it would look like! The camera exaggerated the tint differences. Three XML Malkoff's together:

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What kind of runtime do you get with that setup?



My M91 test was with AW IMR14500s in stages of 10 mins because of heat build up. I got a total of 39 mins before flickering. The final voltage of both cells was dangerously low at 2.6V so I recharged immediately and will not repeat that experiment. The voltage at 30 mins was an acceptable 3.5V. Either way I was impressed.​





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I think I have reached junkie status. Started off with my first light in December. An Elzetta with a M60. My current lineup of lights is a Wildcat V1, AA-2 twisty with a M31 and I just ordered a camo MD2 with a high/low ring and a M61LL. Now I just need a V2 Wildcat. ​






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I LOVE my new M61N Malkoff drop-in from Oveready! Great tint, nice brightness and perfect lumens in a bombproof package. Well done Gene and Oveready! ​






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Any beamshots of the M61N?​





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I LOVE my new M61N Malkoff drop-in from Oveready! Great tint, nice brightness and perfect lumens in a bombproof package. Well done Gene and Oveready!



Does the M61N have a really pink beam like the W? I tried the W, but couldn't take that much pink. ​



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Does the M61N have a really pink tiny like the W? I tried the W, but couldn't take that much pink.



Not too sure how to take beam shots, but the M61n does not have any pink at all...it is pure white goodness! The M61w (3700k) has a bit of a peachy/pink tint, but not the M61n (4000k).​





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Not too sure how to take beam shots, but the M61n does not have any pink at all...it is pure white goodness! The M61w (3700k) has a bit of a peachy/pink tint, but not the M61n (4000k).



Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was hoping to hear.​





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I had several Malkoff drop-ins over the last couple of years, and a VME head on a 2 x AA Twisty body, and while I liked them, I had to sell them to fund a couple of more pressing projects.

I have not been happy since.

This week I should be getting an MD2 with the Hi Lo ring and an M61 (which I think I will promptly flip to fund an M61LW, -LHCRI, or -N, which will reside in an incoming C2-HA. I've also got a an M61HCRI coming which will promply go into the MD2.

I found the VME head just didn't work for me on the 2 x AA Twisty, the E1E or E2E, but I just realized that there's a 2 x CR123 Twisty body, so I'm going to give the 2 x CR123 Twisty set up a try next. ​



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Not too sure how to take beam shots, but the M61n does not have any pink at all...it is pure white goodness! The M61w (3700k) has a bit of a peachy/pink tint, but not the M61n (4000k).



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No One Holster Carries their Hound Dog? ... or is everyone just ignoring me? ...
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02-08-2012, 08:09 AM #1310
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No One Holster Carries their Hound Dog? ... or is everyone just ignoring me? ...
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I holster carry my Hound Dog/MD4 but I use the Nite-Ize elastic holster that you said you didn't want to use. That holster is pretty good for me so I've never really looked into what other holsters might work well wi the hound dog.​





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02-08-2012, 09:20 AM #1311
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I use a Bianchi holster for my MD4.

AccuMold® Elite™ Compact Light Holder Model 7926. The size one fits the MD bodies very well, also works for my Surefire 6Ps and 9Ps.

I have had it about a year and it has loosened up a bit but still holds the light securely.​





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I carry my 3 cell Hound Dog in a Surefire 9AN holster . It fits like it was made for the Hound Dog.​





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02-08-2012, 10:06 AM #1313
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Still fairly new to the brilliant world of high performance personal lighting, but I gotta say that Malkoff's work is So Great... yous guys' reviews here and Malkoff making their brilliant devices have saved me some serious money.

...And yet they have one of the more frustrating websites out there... I have routinely found and lost pages on their site, the hyperlinks are downright labyrinthine, I had no idea there was a 2 CR123 Twisty body... OK, now I see the 2 CR123 body, now where did the 1 CR123 body go? It's cool, so long as they keep doing wonderful work I don't mind a little headache figuring out the possibilities. ​



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02-08-2012, 10:25 AM #1314
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@AZPops: Like 999snafu, I use the Nite-Ize Stretch. I have other lights that are more managable but if you rotate the holster so that your H/D or MD4 lies along your belt in a horizontal carry with the head just forward of the hip, it is easy to access by pulling the light forward. I use this carry occasionally and have had no problems; the larger head of the H/D requires that you find a snug spot for it just behind the fob. It can also be carried behind the hip where I find it is not as comfy but easier to deploy.

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Sparky's Magic, 999snafu, FluffyGrunt, n' Steve B, ... Thanks guys! I saw the Bianchi (But I thought the attached shroud on the tail cap would be too wide for this holster. If I use my newly arrived switch from the Malkoff's which doesn't have the shroud, the Nite Ize will work as well as the Bianchi, but I can't install orings on the body to give it some grip. When the MD2 body arrives, I'll see if I can use the light without the orings. If I feel comfortable as is without the orings the Nite Ize is in) and the Surefire holsters, thanks! Good to know they'd work with the Hound Dog.

However soon after I posted my request, I went ahead an ordered the Galco leather holster because if it'll work I can carry the light with the orings installed (the one with a single strap that wraps around the body). But after I ordered it I thought the head may be too wide to use it since the head may force/push the snap open. But since it's ordered, I'll see how that one will work when it arrives!

Thanks again guys!​


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Question, after reading the Hound Dog XM-L’s description found in Mr. Malkoff’s web site. It states: “SureFire tailcaps which fit the 6P, C2, etc. will fit the body”.

Wanting a raised switch without the tail stand shroud. I ordered and received a Z41 SureFire Tailcap from Oveready this evening which states in it’s product description as: “Compatable with P, C, Z, and G series chassis”.

When I installed the Z41 tailcap, the Hound Dog wouldn’t turn on! Tailcap clicks, but other then that it doesn’t turn the HD on. I replaced it with the MD3 tailcap and all is good to go!

Any suggestion or idea why the Z41 tailcap won’t work?

Thanks!

Btw, thanks again for the holster recommendations! ...
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I LOVE my new M61N Malkoff drop-in from Oveready! Great tint, nice brightness and perfect lumens in a bombproof package. Well done Gene and Oveready!



Just got mine yesterday from Oveready. I can see myself having to pick up a couple more, for backups. Everything you guys said is true, perfect tint, and I'll have to start to save for my next Oveready visit. But I'm not a junkie.
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I am now a Malkoff Junkie. I have four modules, and one of them is a custom that is my EDC light. There's nothing better than a Malkoff! ​



My Lights: (Surefire) Fury, G2 with M61NLLL, 9P with M91N, 9P with Oveready Triple L1N XPG, 9P with M91W, 6P with M61N, 6P with Custom M61W XML, 6P GM with M61WLLL, (Eagletac) P20C2 MKII XML T6. (Cree) C8 XRE
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Question, after reading the Hound Dog XM-L’s description found in Mr. Malkoff’s web site. It states: “SureFire tailcaps which fit the 6P, C2, etc. will fit the body”.

Wanting a raised switch without the tail stand shroud. I ordered and received a Z41 SureFire Tailcap from Oveready this evening which states in it’s product description as: “Compatable with P, C, Z, and G series chassis”.

When I installed the Z41 tailcap, the Hound Dog wouldn’t turn on! Tailcap clicks, but other then that it doesn’t turn the HD on. I replaced it with the MD3 tailcap and all is good to go!

Any suggestion or idea why the Z41 tailcap won’t work?

PPS Got It after messing with the tailcap!



Glad to hear you've got the tailcap working. I've had issues with the Z59 tailcap on an MD3 combined with AW P18500 cells. The issue seems to be that the chrome plate in it is set quite deep. The tailcap cannot be screwed in sufficiently to make an electrical contact. If the tailcap is fitted first then the Hound Dog / MD2 head cannot go on sufficiently to make the electical contact. Either way there is battery crush going on. There are no such problems when using CR123 or IMR 18490.

I've not had problems with the Oveready McClicky adapted Z41 nor their Moddoolar range of tailcaps.​





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Glad to hear you've got the tailcap working. I've had issues with the Z59 tailcap on an MD3 combined with AW P18500 cells. The issue seems to be that the chrome plate in it is set quite deep. The tailcap cannot be screwed in sufficiently to make an electrical contact. If the tailcap is fitted first then the Hound Dog / MD2 head cannot go on sufficiently to make the electical contact. Either way there is battery crush going on. There are no such problems when using CR123 or IMR 18490.

I've not had problems with the Oveready McClicky adapted Z41 nor their Moddoolar range of tailcaps.



Thanks for the heads up! I pulled the SF tailcap off and yup, it put a small indentation in both the batteries (more so on the battery directly contacting the tailcaps spring). Before I shorten the spring, I'll use it, or try it (but carefully) when my MD2 arrives using x2 AW IMR 18350's an see how it goes.

Thanks again!​


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Im having some odd behavior out my M61WL with 3x123 SF cells. The host is a G3 The module dims down to about half it's normal brightness after about 10-15 seconds. The cells are run down some at this point but not depleted. All three read ~ 2.8 volts resting with a craftsman multimeter. This module should stay in regulation from 3.6 up to 9 volts. Normal brightness on new cells. Also put the module in my bored 6P/A19 with two 18500's, and it ran fine with those too. Unless one or more of the SF cells are defective, I dont understand exactly what is the problem. The battery closest to the tailcap is warmer than the other cells when removed. Maybe there is some extra resistance bogging current down in the cells with the 3x configuration. Help me figure this out.​


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Thanks for the heads up! I pulled the SF tailcap off and yup, it put a small indentation in both the batteries (more so on the battery directly contacting the tailcaps spring). Before I shorten the spring, I'll use it, or try it (but carefully) when my MD2 arrives using x2 AW IMR 18350's an see how it goes.

Thanks again!




MD2 arrived and the Z41 tailcap's spring placed a predominate (?) mark on the AW IMR 18350. Btw, love the short MD2 body on the Hound Dog!

Galco holster arrived as well, but I'm hesitant to use it because I feel the snap is not strong enough to keep the width of the Hound Dog's head from pushing/forcing the snap open.​


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cells are run down some at this point but not depleted. All three read ~ 2.8 volts resting with a craftsman multimeter.



A CR123 reading 2.8 resting is mostly gone and will not supply power for full output. 3XCR123 does not obviate fact that the cells are on their way out. The voltage (8.4) may be there but the mA capacity of the cells is not, particularly under a load.

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Ordered a second M61 a couple of days ago. Can't wait! I ordered my first one from Oveready...this is my first straight from the Malkoff site. Does he usually ship out pretty fast?​





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This is the info I needed, thanks.


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A CR123 reading 2.8 resting is mostly gone and will not supply power for full output. 3XCR123 does not obviate fact that the cells are on their way out. The voltage (8.4) may be there but the mA capacity of the cells is not, particularly under a load.

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Ordered a second M61 a couple of days ago. Can't wait! I ordered my first one from Oveready...this is my first straight from the Malkoff site. Does he usually ship out pretty fast?




Yes, as with Oveready, you can also "buy with confidence" with the Malkoff's! ...
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Yes, as with Oveready, you can also "buy with confidence" with the Malkoff's! ...
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+1 to that. Both companies personify the best in customer service - including, in my experiences at least, speed of shipping.​





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My Camo MD2 with a M61LL and High/Low should be here tomorrow or Tuesday!​





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My Camo MD2 with a M61LL and High/Low should be here tomorrow or Tuesday!



Congrats! Great setup, for sure.

I'm expecting my new M91W along with a burnt bronze cerakoted bored C2 this week!​


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Congrats! Great setup, for sure.

I'm expecting my new M91W along with a burnt bronze cerakoted bored C2 this week!



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I saw that, tough looking light there.
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We must be watching the same threads! I actually didn't pull the trigger on that particular C2 - I don't prefer the M2 bezel. I did, however, pick up a fresh bored, cerakoted C2 from Bugsy. Can't wait!​


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Tailcap question: If I cut/shorten the end of the spirng in my Z41 tailcap (in order to relieve the pressure it's presently placing on the batteries), will it have enough sufface area to function properly?

Battery Question: I can't really tell, but is there any difference (or loss) in performance (aside from run times) by using x2 AW IMR 18350's vs x2 18500's (I'm using *****Fire's, but I have x4 AW 18500's on the way)?


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The driver will keep brightness the same with both battery configurations, just less runtime with the 18350's.



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Battery Question: I can't really tell, but is there any difference (or loss) in performance (aside from run times) by using x2 AW IMR 18350's vs x2 18500's (I'm using *****Fire's, but I have x4 AW 18500's on the way)?


Thanks!



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