tsask
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I am chomping at the bit for that SC600w MK3 HI, maybe I can wait.......
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wolfgaze
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I have the h602w. I tried using it as an edc standalone, but I don't like using it for walking around. The 90 degree light isn't great for that function.
I DO love it for work done in my hands, and up close, but like I said, not great for going on walks at night. I use my SC600w MKIII for that.
According to the ZL website, the H602w has a 120 degree beam spread. I do understand that would certainly not be ideal for illuminating Medium/Longer range distances... I would be looking at the H600Fw MKII or the H600Fd MK III, which has a 90 degree beam spread and should give somewhat better throw with a more diffused hot spot....
How do you find the ergonomics to be when holding the light in your hand?
roger-roger
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I have an H32Fw that for my urban environment doesn't have enough throw, to fulfill the requirements for a "general purpose" EDC light. That said, its performance definitely gives me hope that the SC600 PLUS might be able to step into that slot.
The 32Fw could work well for a 4:30am dog walker function but alas, it will soon spend most of its lonely days as part of my on-road tire change kit.
TheRealSpinner
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Yeah, I got it. The ergonomics is what I was speaking about. When walking, my hands hold a standard flashlight very comfortably. Holding the H602w, I have to **** my hand back so that the light points forward. It gets uncomfortable very quickly.
The amount of light coming out of the H602w is actually quite helpful when trying to illuminate the area directly in front of my feet, weather I'm holding it in my hand, or as a headlamp. Like you said, no usable throw, though. I'd even say that even after 10 or 15 feet, it's almost unusable.
Keep in mind that I live in an urban city, and there are generally plenty of street lights around. So, when I'm using a light, it needs to he bright enough to augment the ambient light.
What I HAVE found, is that the SC63w and the SC600w MKIII HI really complement one another. I am also interested in the MKIII Floody version I've heard of recently, and will probably also purchase that. Just to see.
wolfgaze
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Thanks for the feedback...My normal preference for holding a flashlight is about chest height, with my arm in a folded position, closed fist with my thumb on the tail cap (thumb pointing towards me).... I do this with my SC5w and I can still operate the clicky sideswitch by maneuvering my thumb even though the switch is now facing downward... This grip position just feels more comfortable to me and I feel like I have a better position and vantage point for shining the light...
I will also wait for the PLUS model to be released... Does anyone know if Zebralight will normally place the SKU on their site and accept pre-orders? Have they done this in the past?
Yeah, I got it. The ergonomics is what I was speaking about. When walking, my hands hold a standard flashlight very comfortably. Holding the H602w, I have to **** my hand back so that the light points forward. It gets uncomfortable very quickly.
The amount of light coming out of the H602w is actually quite helpful when trying to illuminate the area directly in front of my feet, weather I'm holding it in my hand, or as a headlamp. Like you said, no usable throw, though. I'd even say that even after 10 or 15 feet, it's almost unusable.
Keep in mind that I live in an urban city, and there are generally plenty of street lights around. So, when I'm using a light, it needs to he bright enough to augment the ambient light.
What I HAVE found, is that the SC63w and the SC600w MKIII HI really complement one another. I am also interested in the MKIII Floody version I've heard of recently, and will probably also purchase that. Just to see.
I made some rope to hang my H602w from my neck. I just keep it on when i'm doing anything at night and press the switch for on. I augment this with another light of course for anything outside my immediate circle since it has zero throw. I also use my SC63 or SC62 as a augmentation light. I don't have a SC600 MK3 HI, but my Armytek Predator probably throws a little better if i need a throw situation. Still working on which light works best in what situation though since i have obtained quite a few lights this past year and am rotating through them for the best mix for each occasion.
Swedpat
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I have both and really like them. Here are two beamshots(maybe not of the best class) with different shutter speeds. I adjusted the color balance of the camera to daylight, which in my eyes reproduces the tints fairly accurate to what I perceive with my own eyes. SC52d(to right) has a smaller emitter which provides a smaller, slightly more throwy beam. Both lights were on M1 level(50 resp. 39lm).
I can tell that SC52d definitely does not look dimmer to my eyes than SC52w L2 despite less lumens.
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run4jc
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Nicely done. Very useful. :twothumbs
I just ordered an H600Fd Mk III and I too was wondering about holding it in hand. I can envision it spending a good deal of time in a breast pocket but the cord around the neck sounds promising if it isn't bouncing around too much.
What about holding it like a pen with the head of the light tucked in the webbing of my hand between my index finger and thumb? I think that might work well if it's not too chunky. I'll report back when I get it.
Anyway, I'm glad that I'm choosing a headlamp (90 degree bend) style light because it will definitely come in handy on my forehead and will blow my old Petzel out of the water.
What about holding it like a pen with the head of the light tucked in the webbing of my hand between my index finger and thumb? I think that might work well if it's not too chunky. I'll report back when I get it.
Anyway, I'm glad that I'm choosing a headlamp (90 degree bend) style light because it will definitely come in handy on my forehead and will blow my old Petzel out of the water.
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I have both and really like them. Here are two beamshots(maybe not of the best class) with different shutter speeds. I adjusted the color balance of the camera to daylight, which in my eyes reproduces the tints fairly accurate to what I perceive with my own eyes. SC52d(to right) has a smaller emitter which provides a smaller, slightly more throwy beam. Both lights were on M1 level(50 resp. 39lm).
I can tell that SC52d definitely does not look dimmer to my eyes than SC52w L2 despite less lumens.
Great, thank you!
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I had to walk home late Sunday night, took me an hour and 15 minutes.... I had my SC5w with me and medium mode (45 lumens) provided the perfect amount of light to illuminate the terrain during my walk... Got home and ran the battery test/check feature - and still got 4 flashes... The runtime on this light and particularly in the medium 45 lumen mode is just superb...
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I love the efficiency of the SC5w. I know 18650 lasts much longer than AAs..but on my 2 most used levels (45 lumens & ~0.1 lumens), my Eneloops lasts basically "forever".
Oztorchfreak
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I have found that with the SC52 L2 using an 14500 battery that the runtime is not very good when using the highest level.
Because of that poor runtime I use my SC600 MKIII more often.
Or I use the SC5 that has about 300 lumens using an AA battery which is quite an amazing output.
CHEERS
Because of that poor runtime I use my SC600 MKIII more often.
Or I use the SC5 that has about 300 lumens using an AA battery which is quite an amazing output.
CHEERS
kj2
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Only received one or two emails from ZL about new lights. And that is in the last 1,5/2 years.
markr6
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When it's available for sale IIRC. But I usually have the new lights in hand by the time they send the emails!
wolfgaze
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Thanks for the responses... I find that interesting because you would think that sending more updates and information to their Customer base would really serve to promote and boost sales...
What are your all opinions on Zebralight's operations... Do you think they struggle to keep up with demand because demand is really high - or because their production/batch quantities are kept on a smaller scale?
What are your all opinions on Zebralight's operations... Do you think they struggle to keep up with demand because demand is really high - or because their production/batch quantities are kept on a smaller scale?
snowlover91
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My best guess is that it's a combination of both. They have high demand for their products relative to their size. However they also seem to be small as well since they receive their lights in "batches." I'm perfectly fine with them staying small so long as they keep doing what they do best; producing compact lights with a great UI, thermal management system and high CRI options in neutral tint.
Jbones
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I've recently fallen in love with zebralights, the UI, their ability to tail stand, output, build quality, all in such a tiny package. Downright amazing. I have the sc5, sc5fd, mk3 hi, mk3 neutral, and h602 in my collection, and always carry at least one along side my p60 for the day
You're right about the h602 headlamp, it's all the way a mule, just a big even circle of light at least 120 degrees. Not a thrower at all, but priceless for construction and service work, especially close up in a dark basement or crawl space when you need both your hands free. The head strap is pretty comfortable to boot
In my experience, even if they are a relatively small operation, I've always had orders fulfilled before the lead time they gave me, so kudos to that. Especially with my mk3 hi I lucked out big time, they said a month when I contacted them after placing the order, a week and a half later I had a shipping notification in my email.
Plus, their customer service is top notch, I never had a problem with any of the lights I ordered, so I can't speak to that, but every question I sent them about product specs and wait times were answered the same day
You're right about the h602 headlamp, it's all the way a mule, just a big even circle of light at least 120 degrees. Not a thrower at all, but priceless for construction and service work, especially close up in a dark basement or crawl space when you need both your hands free. The head strap is pretty comfortable to boot
In my experience, even if they are a relatively small operation, I've always had orders fulfilled before the lead time they gave me, so kudos to that. Especially with my mk3 hi I lucked out big time, they said a month when I contacted them after placing the order, a week and a half later I had a shipping notification in my email.
Plus, their customer service is top notch, I never had a problem with any of the lights I ordered, so I can't speak to that, but every question I sent them about product specs and wait times were answered the same day
markr6
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I agree!
