My Quark only will flash bright if I turned it off in a brighter mode and turned it back on a lower mode, no matter how it's programmed, except for the quick flash that appears every time I turn it on in moon mode, it's no big deal to me it's quick and the same brightness as the low mode.
The Quark lights thread! (Part 4)
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jcw122
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I had a great adventure the other day with my Quark!
I am currently on vacation near a lake, and a few days ago some adults down at the lake dropped an unopened beer into the water by accident! Well I was there and saw it happen, and I remembered where they dropped it.
So what did I do? I got my Quark and went swimmin' for beer! I attached my lanyard to the light (no way in hell do I want to go diving for the Quark!) and jumped in! It only took me two tries swimming down to about 10-15ft depth to find the beer. It was a Bud Light, glass bottle, haha. I didn't keep it because I don't drink, but I thought it was really fun anyway! The Quark really helped once I got past the point in the water where the light from the sun couldn't get through anymore.
I love the fact that the Quark is waterproof down to 10 METERS (32 FT!)
I am currently on vacation near a lake, and a few days ago some adults down at the lake dropped an unopened beer into the water by accident! Well I was there and saw it happen, and I remembered where they dropped it.
So what did I do? I got my Quark and went swimmin' for beer! I attached my lanyard to the light (no way in hell do I want to go diving for the Quark!) and jumped in! It only took me two tries swimming down to about 10-15ft depth to find the beer. It was a Bud Light, glass bottle, haha. I didn't keep it because I don't drink, but I thought it was really fun anyway! The Quark really helped once I got past the point in the water where the light from the sun couldn't get through anymore.
I love the fact that the Quark is waterproof down to 10 METERS (32 FT!)
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Toohotruk
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Of course you didn't keep it...why would you keep a bottle after drinking the contents? 
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vali
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Of course you didn't keep it...why would you keep a bottle after drinking the contents?
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Uhmm... this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-f5uYb4uWs
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I would like to see a hybrid of the tactical and regular Quarks as a different tactical UI.
Bezel tight: A regular Quark UI with High/Strobe
Bezel loose: A tac Quark UI with programmable level (moon-low-med-high-SOS-beacon)
I think the regular Quarks would be better with the tactical UI in the tightened position.
But/hey, ya can't please everyone!🙂
Bezel tight: A regular Quark UI with High/Strobe
Bezel loose: A tac Quark UI with programmable level (moon-low-med-high-SOS-beacon)
I think the regular Quarks would be better with the tactical UI in the tightened position.
But/hey, ya can't please everyone!🙂
Toohotruk
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Thank you for the story. It was fun and I think you did nothing dangerous but I believe you are mistaken. Quarks are not diving lights and shouldn't be used as such. Most lights, Quarks included, may work correctly underwater but shouldn't be used if their malfunctioning may result in any danger.
I don't know why you think the Quark is "waterproof down to 10 METERS". You may have been led to believe it because of the "IPX-8 Waterproofing" statement in the specification. If it has anything to do with the IEC 60529 standard, there is nothing about 10 meters (only one meter) in there, unless the manufacturer defines their own testing conditions (does 4sevens do it?). There are many problems with this statement that were previously discussed in depth (e.g. here). I think it is safest to understand the "IPX-8" meaning as "splash proof".
Moreover, according to the IEC 60529 standard, the "IPX-8" IP Code doesn't even exist. The standard clearly states that there is no place for dashes or hyphens inside the code, so if anything it could be only "IPX8" (or "IP6X", "IP67" etc.). I don't know if this popular, especially in China made lights, notation was meant to be related to the IEC 60529 standard. It may as well describe something completely different, only by coincidence similar to the IP codes.
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That's great. That is exactly how mine reacts with the brighter mode in bezel loose.
StinkyButler
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Yeah, I'd take the light apart and inspect it for water intrusion if I were you, just to be safe. If it is bone dry inside, then that's pretty dang cool that it could withstand being down that deep (10-15 ft) while moving it around underwater, which actually multiplies the amount of pressure on it.
jcw122
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Wapkil,
I am not mistaken, I didn't assume the Quark is a diving light. Also, from what I read (and I know it's controversial/confusing) the IPX-8 standard means it is defined by the manufac. Well that's what I did, I asked 4Sevens and they replied back to my e-mail stating:
Trevor @ 4Sevens said:
So that is the official 4Sevens specification. I understand that this might not mean they are intended for diving, or don't mean they should be operated down there, but I did it anyway, lol.
I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. You wrote that you dove with the Quark and that it is waterproof to 10 meters so I had an impression that you thought it is suitable for diving. I think other readers may come to simmilar conclusions, hence my correction. I'm glad to hear that there was no misunderstanding on your part.
Thank you for the information. I didn't know that the Quarks are rated to this depth - I think it's not mentioned anywhere in the available specification. I wonder how expensive it is to rent for testing a 10 meter deep immersion tank.
HKJ
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That is very easy, you just use a 0.5 meter deep tank and add some pressure.
It could work but I think it would violate the requirements of the IEC 60529 standard. As I understand, the standard requires an immersion tank of an appropriate depth. It is not a standard for diving equipment so the conditions and procedures are not defined for tests with higher depths. All of this of course assuming that "IPX-8" is supposed to mean "IPX8".
f22shift
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maybe more of their over engineering. figuring on the tightness of the o-rings it does have the impression of having above avg water resistance. i doubt they'll ever publish 10 m because i don't think it's the original design intent plus then it would have to be covered by warranty if it didn't meet that standard.
reminds me of the l2d which would balloon the rubber cap on overdischarged cells meaning tight seal.
but it's nice to know if you had your back to the wall you could jump in with a quark.
passive101
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Are the Quark lights IIIA hardness? I'm just wondering how strong of a finish they have.
Well, I contacted 4sevens' customer service about the strange behavior of my QAAW, but since the flashlight is no longer misbehaving, there was no way to troubleshoot. My description of the problem wasn't sufficient for them to identify which component of the flashlight was faulty (although from my description, they did think that something was faulty).
If it begins to misbehave again, I'll contact them again and we'll reattempt to troubleshoot what's going on. Of course, if it never misbehaves again, then I've got nothing to worry about 🙂
If it begins to misbehave again, I'll contact them again and we'll reattempt to troubleshoot what's going on. Of course, if it never misbehaves again, then I've got nothing to worry about 🙂
NonSenCe
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finally my warm tactical AA came.. and i almost didnt go to the mailbox today. glad i did and i ahvebeen playing with it now for few hours.
programming seems difficult to remember without instructions.. i think i must keep looking at the utube video several times and re-prog my light all the time till it becomes second nature. (the long wait till it remembers setting is the thing that i struggled with when i tried to do programming by my feeble memory.)
the clicky is loud but i bought it just to get a momentary 🙂
(oh ok it had other cool things going for it too but you guys know them)
looks nice. tint is nice (warm in mine). the output looks promising. (on close up it just has this funky empty dark spot in middle. kinda wished the clip to allow hanging deeper in pocket.. but the reversability is cool thing to have.
but the bright "pre-flash" is definate dissappointment. a huge one in my mind. i surely hope they will fix this on future models. didnt believe it to be that visible beofre i got it in my hands. if i would of believed the talk about it here in cpf.. i just might of not bought a quark after all.
i think i will try to carry it around for a week or so before final judgement.. i just hope the other features overcome the annoying blinding flash on low and moonlight modes. there should not be one. it just destroys the basic reason why i want to use lower modes!
other stuff:
just lookin at that holster makes me want one mounted horizontally.. without a flap.. and definately without velcro (too loud)
i think i would carry it on my belt on weakside on front.. i guess its called something like 10 oclock position? and just pull it out by tail or end of the clip that is hangin outside the strechy stuff on the sides holding the flashlight there too.
i have never carried a flashlight on a pouch yet.. only pocket carry so far.
i dont like vertical holsters on smaller lights (on big ones they are a must but not on small ones.. would be nice if someone would atleast offer an optional pouch attachment methods)
***without the bright flash.. i would buy other one.. maybe the cr123 version, with the "normal" led. but with it... nope.
***hope the new mce serie dont have this kind of snafu in it. it might be a good addition to my collection too.
programming seems difficult to remember without instructions.. i think i must keep looking at the utube video several times and re-prog my light all the time till it becomes second nature. (the long wait till it remembers setting is the thing that i struggled with when i tried to do programming by my feeble memory.)
the clicky is loud but i bought it just to get a momentary 🙂
(oh ok it had other cool things going for it too but you guys know them)
looks nice. tint is nice (warm in mine). the output looks promising. (on close up it just has this funky empty dark spot in middle. kinda wished the clip to allow hanging deeper in pocket.. but the reversability is cool thing to have.
but the bright "pre-flash" is definate dissappointment. a huge one in my mind. i surely hope they will fix this on future models. didnt believe it to be that visible beofre i got it in my hands. if i would of believed the talk about it here in cpf.. i just might of not bought a quark after all.
i think i will try to carry it around for a week or so before final judgement.. i just hope the other features overcome the annoying blinding flash on low and moonlight modes. there should not be one. it just destroys the basic reason why i want to use lower modes!
other stuff:
just lookin at that holster makes me want one mounted horizontally.. without a flap.. and definately without velcro (too loud)
i think i would carry it on my belt on weakside on front.. i guess its called something like 10 oclock position? and just pull it out by tail or end of the clip that is hangin outside the strechy stuff on the sides holding the flashlight there too.
i have never carried a flashlight on a pouch yet.. only pocket carry so far.
i dont like vertical holsters on smaller lights (on big ones they are a must but not on small ones.. would be nice if someone would atleast offer an optional pouch attachment methods)
***without the bright flash.. i would buy other one.. maybe the cr123 version, with the "normal" led. but with it... nope.
***hope the new mce serie dont have this kind of snafu in it. it might be a good addition to my collection too.
mossyoak
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yup they are ha3
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