The vintage California cop light company thread

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I'm pretty sure the flashlights used by bank robbers in the movie "Finding Steve MacQueen" were Kel-Lites.

A movie where among other things they showed scenes from a bank vault robbery in 1972 and the bandits were using black tube flashlights that really looked like 3rd gen Kel-Lites. Now the third gen were not out in 72 but at one point I coulda sworn the switch in the scene was the third gen type.

Whatever they were acuracy-wise it was nice to see what looked like vintange California cop lights instead of Eveready Captains or Rayovac Sportsman.
 

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Not sure how I missed this thread, but I have found it very interesting!

I'm not sure why, but I'm not able to post pictures now, as I was going to show you my original L.A. Screw Smoke-Cutter (purchased new in 1982, by me) and my original StreamLight SL-20 (purchased new in 1985, by me).

I used them for years, purchasing the StreamLight SL-20 after getting tired of changing the Smoke-Cutters batts all the time, however it (Smoke-Cutter) remained useful, being kept with my bunker gear and getting used regularly for fires, etc.

Thanks for bringing back many memories!
 

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Very cool, Imgur is the best bet for hosting pics. You can click on the BBC Code link after uploading your pics and past that here.

I'd love to see pics and any stories too! Were/are you a firefighter?

I didn't know until recently that Code 4 is code for "no further assistance required". Basically, everything is all good. Nice marketing slogan for a flashlight geared towards law enforcement professionals. I did a write up on Code 4s with some old advertisements on my blog at: http://otherflashlights.blogspot.com/2017/06/gt-price-and-la-screw-code-4-lights.html

I have the contact info for an old Code 4 dealer in TX. I was able to buy some parts off of him. Supposedly he has some NOS lights too but I was never able to quite pry them from his grip. It's where I got most of the adverts and info from too.
 
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Today, January 9th 2021 is National Law Enforcement Day

So fire up those jumbo Calofornia Cop Lights this evening in celebration.


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Streamlight 4D Kel-Lite and 3D Maglite in all their glory.
 

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Not up close……
"Back away from the flashlight" "back……away……from the ……flashlight maggot"

I thought about carrying my big-head Dirty Harry 3D Rayovac Sportsman but there's no dent in the head like the one in the original Dirty Harry movie……so I may lego the big head from a Kel-Lite onto that Streamlight for affect. lol
 

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Got some more Kellites....

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Two x 2D First Generation

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Covina

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3D First Generation
 

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Look at the size of the head on that thing! What is it? I want that!
They all look nice though with the contrasting silver rings
 

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You have a real nice collection konifans.

This thread started out to be about pre-SureFire simply to not become just another SureFire thread while it was being built as a legacy thread about lights during the infancy of alluminum tube lights built in California USA.

Now to have added LaserProducts early on was not off limits but nobody chose to. I call those Pre-PK products.
See, while Don Keller, Tony Maglica and others were changing the flashlight world, Dr John Matthews had a hand in fiber optic technology and laser sites for pistols. Then later on using SLR camera flash batteries and super bright light bulbs he changed the world of California Cop Light from a Louisville Slugger sized light to a 2C sized "baby" cop light to achieve a similar output.

Now that many of the short-lived, non famous companies along with the famous ones are well chronicled, perhaps it's time to re-light this thread with post-Don Keller companies like Pelican, Pentagon, more about Tekna, and by all means the company that dethroned King Maglite…SureFire during the PK days and any others folks happen to come across including honorary California Cop Light maker Lumens Factory who keeps the old incans like Streamlight, Pelican and SureFire going with a few of his own designs like the Seraph.


A Pentagon eX2 and a pair of Pelican 2320's called the M6. The Pentagon and Pelican share the same bulb module and tailcap switch be it clicky or twisty. The eX2 is a twisty. The 2320's are clicky. Yes that is a Malkoff tailcap on the black one.
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Very cool, Imgur is the best bet for hosting pics. You can click on the BBC Code link after uploading your pics and past that here.

I'd love to see pics and any stories too! Were/are you a firefighter?

Yes, I am a Paramedic/Firefighter.

Here are a few bad pictures of my Smoke Cutter and a couple of my old StreamLights.
 

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Look at the size of the head on that thing! What is it? I want that!
They all look nice though with the contrasting silver rings
It is a Surefire 9N turbo head with N3 lamp assembly.

Maglite also has a beautiful silver ring Magcharger, the best of incandescent Maglite. Although it is larger and heavier... I use the Magcharger more often, with 2 x 32700 6000mah Lifepo4, and a WA bulb which I believe is a 6V 30W bulb, and Fivemega G4 bi pin socket. It is easy to get a Philips 5761 (6V 35W) for it. The 32700 Lifepo4 is a perfect replacement of the stock NiMh or NiCa battery pack, lighter, more energy, longer life and same voltage.

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You have a real nice collection konifans.

This thread started out to be about pre-SureFire simply to not become just another SureFire thread while it was being built as a legacy thread about lights during the infancy of alluminum tube lights built in California USA.

Now to have added LaserProducts early on was not off limits but nobody chose to. I call those Pre-PK products.
See, while Don Keller, Tony Maglica and others were changing the flashlight world, Dr John Matthews had a hand in fiber optic technology and laser sites for pistols. Then later on using SLR camera flash batteries and super bright light bulbs he changed the world of California Cop Light from a Louisville Slugger sized light to a 2C sized "baby" cop light to achieve a similar output.

Now that many of the short-lived, non famous companies along with the famous ones are well chronicled, perhaps it's time to re-light this thread with post-Don Keller companies like Pelican, Pentagon, more about Tekna, and by all means the company that dethroned King Maglite…SureFire during the PK days and any others folks happen to come across including honorary California Cop Light maker Lumens Factory who keeps the old incans like Streamlight, Pelican and SureFire going with a few of his own designs like the Seraph.


A Pentagon eX2 and a pair of Pelican 2320's called the M6. The Pentagon and Pelican share the same bulb module and tailcap switch be it clicky or twisty. The eX2 is a twisty. The 2320's are clicky. Yes that is a Malkoff tailcap on the black one.
I agree we should talk more about the older lights. I personally like the Kel-Lite and Maglite more than Surefire simply because they are older and much bigger. :p
 

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It is a Surefire 9N turbo head with N3 lamp assembly.

Maglite also has a beautiful silver ring Magcharger, the best of incandescent Maglite. Although it is larger and heavier... I use the Magcharger more often, with 2 x 32700 6000mah Lifepo4, and a WA bulb which I believe is a 6V 30W bulb, and Fivemega G4 bi pin socket. It is easy to get a Philips 5761 (6V 35W) for it. The 32700 Lifepo4 is a perfect replacement of the stock NiMh or NiCa battery pack, lighter, more energy, longer life and same voltage.

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Thanks. Ya I like the mag charger too although I generally don't care as much for the d cell lights. That being said some of these d cell kel lites are very nice.
That 9n does look awesome though
 
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