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BugLightGeek
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Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
Is it too early to ask how the output of this light would compare with a PR/PR-T or hotrodded KL1 or souped up Arc with a 3w?
Is it too early to ask how the output of this light would compare with a PR/PR-T or hotrodded KL1 or souped up Arc with a 3w?
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
On its highest setting, the VIP will be as bright or slightly brighter than THIS light. That's with the small stock head and Fraen Low Profile optic. And with the optional screw-on BulkHead it will closely simulate the power and throw of THIS light, although with a single-die Luxeon the beam will be significantly narrower.
On its highest setting, the VIP will be as bright or slightly brighter than THIS light. That's with the small stock head and Fraen Low Profile optic. And with the optional screw-on BulkHead it will closely simulate the power and throw of THIS light, although with a single-die Luxeon the beam will be significantly narrower.
BugLightGeek
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
works for me!
(does happy dance)
works for me!
(does happy dance)
geepondy
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
Charlie, there's no way in H E double toothpick this light is going to be as bright as a SNII regardless of reflector used! Is there?
Charlie, there's no way in H E double toothpick this light is going to be as bright as a SNII regardless of reflector used! Is there?
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
Geep by "simulate" I mean it will have a long throwing hotspot similar to the SN2, but of course it will not be as bright. But with the Luxeon III's single die located right in the center of the optimum focal point of the big reflector it should be far brighter than any of the other small lights with their smaller reflectors.
Geep by "simulate" I mean it will have a long throwing hotspot similar to the SN2, but of course it will not be as bright. But with the Luxeon III's single die located right in the center of the optimum focal point of the big reflector it should be far brighter than any of the other small lights with their smaller reflectors.
raggie33
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Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
hey if thislight is anyone near as bright as the babypin then its way cool.cause ya can slow down the brightness to get run time when ya need runtime .but ya can crank it up when ya want to throw lumens. and well its also very cool looking
hey if thislight is anyone near as bright as the babypin then its way cool.cause ya can slow down the brightness to get run time when ya need runtime .but ya can crank it up when ya want to throw lumens. and well its also very cool looking
Pi_is_blue
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
The VIP should be brighter than the Baby Pin because in high it should match the Super Baby Pin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
The VIP should be brighter than the Baby Pin because in high it should match the Super Baby Pin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
You guys are So Smart...and I'm glad. Means I don't have to rush back here constantly to answer every post. Gives me more time to get ready -- not just for the VIP but for SHOT...leaving in two days since I want to hang out with family there for awhile before the Show starts.
But I will have net access and will visit and post regularly.
You guys are So Smart...and I'm glad. Means I don't have to rush back here constantly to answer every post. Gives me more time to get ready -- not just for the VIP but for SHOT...leaving in two days since I want to hang out with family there for awhile before the Show starts.
But I will have net access and will visit and post regularly.
Beretta1526
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
Alas, I so wish I could go to SHOT this year, but I can't.
Maybe it will be in Florida next year and I can go...
Have a great time at the show Charlie!
Alas, I so wish I could go to SHOT this year, but I can't.
Maybe it will be in Florida next year and I can go...
Have a great time at the show Charlie!
brightnorm
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Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
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...In its present form the light will already chameleonize easily into a variety of functional formats ...
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Charlie,
Great verbal mod.
Brightnorm
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...In its present form the light will already chameleonize easily into a variety of functional formats ...
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Charlie,
Great verbal mod.
Brightnorm
Icebreak
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: No More Developments On The VIP...
'bout dern time you took a little break.-
'bout dern time you took a little break.-
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
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Pi_is_blue said:
The VIP should be brighter than the Baby Pin because in high it should match the Super Baby Pin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
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That's true, and it will be all the light I will need 90% of the time. Being able to dim it down when I don't need all that light and want to stretch that single 123A's life is icing on the cake for me.
I took my Super Baby Pin on a 6 day fishing trip off Belize last week. I carried it in my pocket onboard the flight and kept it with me around the clock. I quickly grew irritated with it hanging from a neck lanyard and attached it to a Victorinox leather belt loop. The light dangled lens down in my right front pocket and for about all my momentary tasks I didn't need to take it off the snap link.
In my travels and excursions, my first requirement is always: "Don't lose the light". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif duh.
I used a Streamlight TL-3 Xenon when I wanted to reach out there. One of the anglers constrained me to sell it to him, which I did. I was nervous about taking my beloved M3T, but next time I will. It's ergonomics are just way better than the TL-3.
I mention this because, now that I have been awakened to the host of lights available beyond M-glight, I've become increasingly finicky about ergonomics. A couple of ergonomic characteristics of the host light for the SBP are my only complaint with it. I inherited a malady from my Father's side of the family where we reach a certain age and things jump out of our hands for no reason at all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif
The checkering on the host body for the SBP just isn't aggressive enough for me. I am at the extreme end of the knurling Aggressiveness Meter. For me, an SF L1 body without the clip, screwed onto a 16" ash dowel would make the perfect backscratcher. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The SBP's host slips in my hand too easily, particularly if I haven't removed every smidgeon of sunscreen, fish goo or even the greasy sweat wiped from my face. When I use the syringe or cigar grip with momentary it squirms forward.
Also, the flat, recessed tail button of the SBP's host body asks my arthritic meathooks to do things with my thumbs that they protest about.
The VIP addresses all of these things for me. The knurling looks like it will be plenty aggressive for my taste, the Kroll switch and the valleys in the pronged tail guard ought to work well with my thumbs and grip geometry.
The dimming circuitry and switch will give me versatility without my having to read a book or watch a video on how to operate it. But, it's the high output of the SBP in the VIP that will make it my constant companion.
I thought I'd post a photo of my SBP for those fellahs that would like to see one. I like how the beam reflected off the water. I managed to catch the angle just right so that it didn't dazzle my camera.
Britt
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Pi_is_blue said:
The VIP should be brighter than the Baby Pin because in high it should match the Super Baby Pin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
[/ QUOTE ]
That's true, and it will be all the light I will need 90% of the time. Being able to dim it down when I don't need all that light and want to stretch that single 123A's life is icing on the cake for me.
I took my Super Baby Pin on a 6 day fishing trip off Belize last week. I carried it in my pocket onboard the flight and kept it with me around the clock. I quickly grew irritated with it hanging from a neck lanyard and attached it to a Victorinox leather belt loop. The light dangled lens down in my right front pocket and for about all my momentary tasks I didn't need to take it off the snap link.
In my travels and excursions, my first requirement is always: "Don't lose the light". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif duh.
I used a Streamlight TL-3 Xenon when I wanted to reach out there. One of the anglers constrained me to sell it to him, which I did. I was nervous about taking my beloved M3T, but next time I will. It's ergonomics are just way better than the TL-3.
I mention this because, now that I have been awakened to the host of lights available beyond M-glight, I've become increasingly finicky about ergonomics. A couple of ergonomic characteristics of the host light for the SBP are my only complaint with it. I inherited a malady from my Father's side of the family where we reach a certain age and things jump out of our hands for no reason at all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif
The checkering on the host body for the SBP just isn't aggressive enough for me. I am at the extreme end of the knurling Aggressiveness Meter. For me, an SF L1 body without the clip, screwed onto a 16" ash dowel would make the perfect backscratcher. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
The SBP's host slips in my hand too easily, particularly if I haven't removed every smidgeon of sunscreen, fish goo or even the greasy sweat wiped from my face. When I use the syringe or cigar grip with momentary it squirms forward.
Also, the flat, recessed tail button of the SBP's host body asks my arthritic meathooks to do things with my thumbs that they protest about.
The VIP addresses all of these things for me. The knurling looks like it will be plenty aggressive for my taste, the Kroll switch and the valleys in the pronged tail guard ought to work well with my thumbs and grip geometry.
The dimming circuitry and switch will give me versatility without my having to read a book or watch a video on how to operate it. But, it's the high output of the SBP in the VIP that will make it my constant companion.
I thought I'd post a photo of my SBP for those fellahs that would like to see one. I like how the beam reflected off the water. I managed to catch the angle just right so that it didn't dazzle my camera.
Britt
Phil_B
Enlightened
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
You're not wrong Lambo. I check most days but... :-(
You're not wrong Lambo. I check most days but... :-(
Re: The VIP -- Disassembled
The usual VIP posting drivel to resume Wednesday night upon my return!
I am out the door soon to hang out w/me mom and pop (mom's 77th BD and all) as well as tomorrow since it's my last day here in Vegas before flying out Tuesday. So...I'll be around, but not really. Thanks for thinking of the VIP (and not me...).
The usual VIP posting drivel to resume Wednesday night upon my return!
I am out the door soon to hang out w/me mom and pop (mom's 77th BD and all) as well as tomorrow since it's my last day here in Vegas before flying out Tuesday. So...I'll be around, but not really. Thanks for thinking of the VIP (and not me...).
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