There's a New Production World Champ - 6800 lumens 70W
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I think the L70 is a rebadged Taiwanese light, probably from the supplier shown above.
...but I do look forward to the day a Taiwanese or Chinese vendor buys a US or European product, because it cannot make it at a competitive price, and rebadges it.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
You're new, so you weren't here when all this went down; search CPF for the term "Barnburner", and prepare to lose a couple of hours studying the awesomeness..
DavyCrockett
Newly Enlightened
Is Barnburner a production light?
Personally, I don't like the looks of this 6800 one. The PH50 looks way cooler. I emailed them to ask the cost of this Taiwan light. Stay tuned.
Yeah, here's that old thread...Looks like around $750 shipped.
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/259449&highlight=barnburner
EDIT: They did email me back... wanted to know what I intended to do with the flashlight. ????
Then wanted to know the quantity, before giving me a price.
http://henlin.en.alibaba.com/product/312136151-209968905/HID_Searchlight_PRO_SL3570_.html
Personally, I don't like the looks of this 6800 one. The PH50 looks way cooler. I emailed them to ask the cost of this Taiwan light. Stay tuned.
Yeah, here's that old thread...Looks like around $750 shipped.
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/259449&highlight=barnburner
EDIT: They did email me back... wanted to know what I intended to do with the flashlight. ????
Then wanted to know the quantity, before giving me a price.
http://henlin.en.alibaba.com/product/312136151-209968905/HID_Searchlight_PRO_SL3570_.html
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StarHalo
Flashaholic
And that's why we stick to trusted dealers.
jp2515
Flashlight Enthusiast
Exactly!
BTW not surprised that he was asked for the quantity before getting a quote. Lots of those companies want to do wholesale only or selling more than just 1 unit (or they don't sell directly to end users)
BatteryCharger
Flashlight Enthusiast
That's a chinese wholesale company you posted. They do not sell to the public. The only way a company like that will sell you one is if you ask for a "sample", otherwise, it's 10 or 100 lights minimum and they want all your business info.
ANDREAS FERRARI
Flashlight Enthusiast
As other cpf members wrote, the supplier will happily provide a trade sample. Normally, they supply a minimum number of units, say 500, and will not sell to individual consumers. Bad people, myself included, order a trade sample and never come back with the huge order. This is how I bought a great short-arc spotlight for less that $1000, instead of $3000+.
The Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturers must have realized how sneaky some cpf members can be, and hence the question, 'whatcha gonna do with our spotlight?"
I suggest you tell them you plan to supply the local police force, firefighters and the national guard with a good and competitive searchlight, and that if their stuff is good, orders will follow.
It's perhaps morally wrong, but not as much as ripping off someone else's design. I found my reservations disappear once my spotlight arrived. I love shining the beam on the clouds.
Brave and smart people from CPF tricking Chinese light manufacturers into selling them flashlights!
Probably a bit morally wrong but makes a nice headline anyway lovecpf
Looks like I belong to "bad people" group too, as the idea appeals to me. :devil:
DavyCrockett
Newly Enlightened
I also asked them, what the price would be if I bought 1 or 10.
They haven't replied yet. Maybe they're waiting till Monday morning, which will be in a few hours now.
I DID send them the email close to their weekend over there. They're about 12 hours ahead of us.
Ferrari, let's go in together and buy a few of these. I suspect we both live in the wilderness and would get good use out of these. :thumbsup: Just under 6 lbs.
They haven't replied yet. Maybe they're waiting till Monday morning, which will be in a few hours now.
I DID send them the email close to their weekend over there. They're about 12 hours ahead of us.
Ferrari, let's go in together and buy a few of these. I suspect we both live in the wilderness and would get good use out of these. :thumbsup: Just under 6 lbs.
StarHalo
Flashaholic
And if one is defective? You want to deal with the "Show us ze papers" other-side-of-the-ocean customer service? Again, trusted dealers..
If you're really dying for a higher-wattage HID, you could probably get a CPFer to throw one together for you, the parts aren't all that difficult to come by.
DavyCrockett
Newly Enlightened
Sure enough, they emailed me at 9:30 pm Mt. Time.
Said a sample of 1 was $800. and $720 if 10 were bought.
Said they have a US distributor, so shipping would be fast and service.
6800 rock and roll lumens! :twothumbs
This is interesting. :thumbsup:
Said a sample of 1 was $800. and $720 if 10 were bought.
Said they have a US distributor, so shipping would be fast and service.
6800 rock and roll lumens! :twothumbs
This is interesting. :thumbsup:
BatteryCharger
Flashlight Enthusiast
Maybe you can start up a group buy, that's how I got my X990 back in the day for $200. (You couldn't touch one for under $500 before that) They already had a US distributor but I went around them and their markup directly to Taiwan and got me and 20 other CPFers a great deal.
In response the US distributor (acro) threw a fit because they thought they had a monopoly and I went and undercut them, as a result they made a deal with the Taiwanese factory not to sell to anyone else in the US anymore. :laughing: This is why the price on the X990 fell to $299-$399 where it is today, from the $500+ it had always been. :thumbsup:
Never underestimate the little guy!
In response the US distributor (acro) threw a fit because they thought they had a monopoly and I went and undercut them, as a result they made a deal with the Taiwanese factory not to sell to anyone else in the US anymore. :laughing: This is why the price on the X990 fell to $299-$399 where it is today, from the $500+ it had always been. :thumbsup:
Never underestimate the little guy!
StarHalo
Flashaholic
You could go well over the output of a 70 watt HID with something CPF-made for $800. Fivemega was at one time selling a 10,000+ lumen hotwire bulb for something like $20 a piece, I can't find the thread now though..
But keep in mind that 6800 lumens is barely twice the output of the light you have now; it will look brighter than your EBay light, but nothing like the difference between a Mag and an HID - that's part of the deal when you get to the big gun lights, it takes far more lumens each time to leave an impression.
But keep in mind that 6800 lumens is barely twice the output of the light you have now; it will look brighter than your EBay light, but nothing like the difference between a Mag and an HID - that's part of the deal when you get to the big gun lights, it takes far more lumens each time to leave an impression.
ANDREAS FERRARI
Flashlight Enthusiast
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