they fianly got that jerk
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PhotonWrangler
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Glad they caught him. Now give him a dose of his own medicine, stat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
14C
Enlightened
Way too bad they observed the "white flag" thing.
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I have to also say that if I was in the arresting officers place I would (maybe) probably not have committed murder either. What a crappy situation some police end up in.
If the state OK'ed it legally and paid my airfare I might consider going there to put a bullet in his head.
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I have to also say that if I was in the arresting officers place I would (maybe) probably not have committed murder either. What a crappy situation some police end up in.
If the state OK'ed it legally and paid my airfare I might consider going there to put a bullet in his head.
Sigman
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It's sooooo sad that with what had happened the day before (the shanks in his socks), that they let this happen the next day. The warning signs had already been recognized...sad, sad, sad! Maybe I don't have the whole story...
However, thank God they found him!
However, thank God they found him!
No doubt two tone. Now it's innocent until proven guilty?? How much proof do they need. Now it will drag on forever while they waste food and money on this guy. The news anchors **** me off with this alleged murderer BS!
When they finally count the cost -quite possibly the best judge in Atlanta,a defenceless court reporter and two fine LEO dead,another officer wounded and a woman who will need therapy for years after being held by this animal-then maybe some news anchor talking heads can just shut up and go stand in the corner!Sorry to sound mean.
DarkLight
Enlightened
Somebody is gonna be in trouble for putting a little old lady deputy on that guy.
Probably main reason it all happened.
If two 240 lb Crewcutted Bubbas woulda been on him, never would have happened...
Breakdown in procedure, esp since he had already been caught with shanks.....
Probably main reason it all happened.
If two 240 lb Crewcutted Bubbas woulda been on him, never would have happened...
Breakdown in procedure, esp since he had already been caught with shanks.....
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
Considering that the judge had asked for extra security only the day before, and the result of this request is that they allowed an individual woman to be in charge of this animal for a moment while he wasn't shackled, I think some of the staff themselves should be jailed. Clearly someone had abdicated their responsibility, especially in light of the judge's request. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
AnotherDaveH
Newly Enlightened
This will send a wake-up call around the country. Apparently this didn't violate any procedure, even with the weapon discovery the previous day, but that will be changing. One of the security folks I saw interviewed said it was difficult to get permission to handcuff defendants since it compromised their 'presumption of innocence'.
Its hard to belive this stuff happens. San Diego had to cancel an afternoon in one of its highest profile murder trials last year beacuse the defendant just walked out of the court house during a recess.
I, too, am tiring of the 'good guy who had a bad day' spin this guy has been getting.
Its hard to belive this stuff happens. San Diego had to cancel an afternoon in one of its highest profile murder trials last year beacuse the defendant just walked out of the court house during a recess.
I, too, am tiring of the 'good guy who had a bad day' spin this guy has been getting.
This guy should have been waving the white flag at the courthouse. Its amazing someone so violent would surrender peacefully. If he had just done what the deputies had told him to do, there would be no lives lost. But this jerk has to kill FOUR people and THEN SURRENDER. This event should have never happened in the first place my opinion says.
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
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Mags said:
I heard that the security between the escort from jail to court thing was really weak. Is this true?
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Apparently so. From what I've heard, the shackling room is normally adjacent to the courtroom, but in this case it was in an adjacent building, so there was a long walk afrom this room to the courtroom where the perp wasn't in cuffs and was being escorted by a lone female guard. BAD IDEA.
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Mags said:
I heard that the security between the escort from jail to court thing was really weak. Is this true?
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Apparently so. From what I've heard, the shackling room is normally adjacent to the courtroom, but in this case it was in an adjacent building, so there was a long walk afrom this room to the courtroom where the perp wasn't in cuffs and was being escorted by a lone female guard. BAD IDEA.
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flashlight
Flashlight Enthusiast
Here we only release the handcuffs when the accused person is in the dock & it's done by an officer who is not carrying a sidearm. At any one time there are at least two officers on duty in the courtroom at least from what I know.
Lightraven
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A few people have mentioned the fact the deputy was a woman. I understand where you are coming from but some women can handle a deadly force confrontation--and some men can't. I can think of two female LEOs locally--one whom I know--who smoked their attackers (in one case a big young man).
The weapons are equalizers but only if the officer uses them very quickly and effectively. At the academy, we watched the dashboard camera of a trooper (a big guy) who was wrestled to the ground and shot and killed with his own gun. It took about 4 seconds.
The weapons are equalizers but only if the officer uses them very quickly and effectively. At the academy, we watched the dashboard camera of a trooper (a big guy) who was wrestled to the ground and shot and killed with his own gun. It took about 4 seconds.
Might want to consider a "Tiger Trap" system before entering a courtroom. This is a empty space with two locking doors controlled by a person outside the locked space.
Prisoner can be escorted by armed personnel then an unarmed escourt goes in the first door with the prisoner, door locks, prisoner is unshackled and buzzed through the second locking door and escorted into the courtroom.
Prisoner can be escorted by armed personnel then an unarmed escourt goes in the first door with the prisoner, door locks, prisoner is unshackled and buzzed through the second locking door and escorted into the courtroom.
James S
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around here they don't even take the shackles off in court, at least not all the time. I was in traffic court last year (it was for expired license plates if you can believe that, let them slip by 6 days and got pulled over and written a ticket, anyhow I got off after paying for the new sticker /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) But they evidently don't have a just traffic court day and there were all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons going through the court that day. I watched 2 different men, one for assaulting his wife and another for trying to knife somebody brought before the judge in the red prison jump suit and still handcuffed or shackled!
I thought it was scary to mix the 2 types of things at first, but on later reflection I decided that it helped to keep someone's rolling through a stop sign in perspective if he was preceded by a guy who had tried to kill someone...
As far as how much it costs to bother with a trial for someone obviously guilty... I'm happy to pay for this jerk, so the next guy who might actually be innocent can get the same treatment.
I thought it was scary to mix the 2 types of things at first, but on later reflection I decided that it helped to keep someone's rolling through a stop sign in perspective if he was preceded by a guy who had tried to kill someone...
As far as how much it costs to bother with a trial for someone obviously guilty... I'm happy to pay for this jerk, so the next guy who might actually be innocent can get the same treatment.
