WORD!Oh boythe toughest part of that repair is doing a decent spackling job over that popcorn paint. But once you jack the ceiling up up should be able to just screw the sheets into the existing rafters.
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Yikes. Glad you caught this before it became much worse.
Hopefully, the damage isn't too extensive. Drywall needs to stay that way. When it gets wet it loses its structural integrity. While repairing some water-damaged sheetrock at Mom's house, the extent of the damage wasn't visible until I started the repairs.
I considered just fastening to rafters and may end up going that route.Oh boy
The previous owner probably just used too few nails.
That's another reason I want to check it from the attic but the access to the attic is a 3'x3' square so getting lumber for a walkway will be limited to smaller, shorter pieces of plywood.
I'd probably have to build more like a crawl way than a walk way. From the ceiling to the peak is about 3-1/2' high.
I went to high school with a fellow who has a dry wall business. I may consult with him for an opinion.
I can't see where nails/screws were used on the joints. Very few have shown up over the years and those are in the center of the panels. My guess is he used adhesive along the rafters with a nail or screw here and there.
Your ceiling joists should be 16 inches on center. The seam of your sheet rock or plaster board should be in the middle of the 1 5/8 inch wide joist. If your house is old enough the joist will be 2 inches wide. I wouldn't go up into the attic other than to see the orientation of the joists, although they are probably running in the same direction as the siding in your picture.
I've used a block of wood and a hammer to tap on sheet rock to locate a stud. You can usually HEAR the difference in the sound that it makes when there is a stud underneath. It may not be so easy when the sheet rock/plaster board is separated from the joists. I've also used a finishing nail to poke through the rock to locate a stud/joist. I've used "monkey hooks" to locate a stud.
If your split seam runs along a joist, just screw it back up. If not then locate a joist and then screw the seam every 16 inches. You might also go in 4-8 inches and put another screw into the joist. To properly spackle the joint you'll need to feather it out 8 to 12 inches anyway.
Are you sure the roof is not leaking? The sagging shouldn't be getting worse if there is no leak. Also seems like there might not be enough screws/nails holding the rock up if a planter hook caused them to start to separate from the joists before the leak started. It's also possible that the joists are spaced too far or are not the right size of lumber (should be at least 2x6's). A stud finder will help you locate the joists.
It was not the planter hook that caused the issue. It was the 10# plant hanging from it. It began to pull the two sheet rock panels away from the rafters about 10 years ago. Enough to cause me to think it was going to pull the two panels of sheet rock down if I didn't remove it from the hook. I should have fixed it back then hind sight being 20/20 and all.
Last week I could see it changing. The taped joint started to peel away and each day a little more had peeled. It may not have fallen but since I could see changes I thought it best to go ahead and prop it up until summer has changed to fall.
The room was built in the 1990's. The rafters are at a right angle from the failed joint.
I'll use a "stimple" brush to reapply the stucco-like texture like it was done throughout the house in the 1960's.
Last week I could see it changing. The taped joint started to peel away and each day a little more had peeled. It may not have fallen but since I could see changes I thought it best to go ahead and prop it up until summer has changed to fall.
The room was built in the 1990's. The rafters are at a right angle from the failed joint.
I'll use a "stimple" brush to reapply the stucco-like texture like it was done throughout the house in the 1960's.
We've got our fingers crossed hoping your Fall project doesn't turn into a big ole
Fall project. See what I did there?
Fall project. See what I did there?
The RAIN hasn't started, so I continue to turn white things green.
Yesterday it was this new gutter, adjacent trim, and the picture window trim.
Yesterday it was this new gutter, adjacent trim, and the picture window trim.
Yeah, I see what you did there.We've got our fingers crossed hoping your Fall project doesn't turn into a big ole
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Fall project. See what I did there?
Oh it's quite possibly the start of something that may take years to complete. Maybe some fake beams and who knows what else.
If only everyone considered me as funny as I consider myself .....
You're pretty funny amigo.If only everyone considered me as funny as I consider myself .....
I know. Right!?
Not much more I can do before winter is here for real. Just some cleanup and small things to help with the future transportation of equpment - like my custom built wooden scaffolding.
Bought some more heavy-duty casters and put them on brackets, so I can easily screw them on anything I make with 2"x4" (which is pretty much everything). These 20cm rubber casters can handle 200 Kg each (was about $90 for a set of 4). All of them with swivel and lock function.
First time I really, actually needed the new jack stands too - they made this job so much easier!
Haven't tried climbing on the things with the wheels on yet. I expect it will need some additional metal plates for support, or replace the front beam I use to balance the whole thing with a shorter one (used what I had on hand at the time), but that will be something for next year.
All I wanted to do yesterday was getting the damn things to where I store them during winter. I usually lift them by hand and carry them to the back of the house (I get the biggest one an inch off the ground if I stand underneath and fully extend my arms), but they have been water soaked for a month now so I didn't even bother trying.
Bought some more heavy-duty casters and put them on brackets, so I can easily screw them on anything I make with 2"x4" (which is pretty much everything). These 20cm rubber casters can handle 200 Kg each (was about $90 for a set of 4). All of them with swivel and lock function.
First time I really, actually needed the new jack stands too - they made this job so much easier!
Haven't tried climbing on the things with the wheels on yet. I expect it will need some additional metal plates for support, or replace the front beam I use to balance the whole thing with a shorter one (used what I had on hand at the time), but that will be something for next year.
All I wanted to do yesterday was getting the damn things to where I store them during winter. I usually lift them by hand and carry them to the back of the house (I get the biggest one an inch off the ground if I stand underneath and fully extend my arms), but they have been water soaked for a month now so I didn't even bother trying.
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The color changes with the weather. Both pictures accurately portray the colors. It's like magic.
I suppose that the gravel changes with the weather too?
Correct, Poppy! It changes from dry to wet.
