Tiablo ACE-G & A10-G Reviews: Massive detailed comparison thread!

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is it a bigger thrower the A10G with the Smooth reflector or the A9 with the aspherical lens?
 

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In your opinion, you think the new Eagletac M2 will take the place of M1x?
Sorry for my English, which is not the best, greetings.​


Not sure who you are asking, prob not me, but I'll chime in...

The M2 and M1X are two different lights, so one won't likely replace the other. The JetBeam M1X is a high output long range Thrower, while the EagleTac M2 is a high output short range thrower with more side spill.
 

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In your opinion, you think the new Eagletac M2 will take the place of M1x?
FYI, my review of the M2XC4 (3xCree) is now up. I am waiting on a second-generation M2C4 (P7) to complete my assessment.

The M2XC4 certainly throws as well (if not better) than the M1X at close range. At a distance though, I think the M1X may have an advantage. I haven't done longer distance beamshots yet - I plan to do these soon and present everthing in one large Round-up Review thread. Stay tuned ...

is it a bigger thrower the A10G with the Smooth reflector or the A9 with the aspherical lens?
As shown in this table from the review, the A9 with aspheric head is still a better thrower:

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But the A10G produces a more generally useful beam. Aspherics have a lot chromatic aberration (i.e. prism-like colors around the edges), and project an exact image of the emitter die when fully focused (i.e. the Cree die looks a like a space invader).
 

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FYI, I've just updated the graphs with 4xCR123A runtimes for all lights that support this configuration.

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Hit your brower re-load if you don't see the new traces.

Also included in all runtime graphs are some recent additions to the multi-emitter class. Scroll back up to the main post to see the new traces. :wave:
 

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Great review selfbuilt!:thumbsup:
The Only thing I missing is that you haven't mentioned anyting about the glow-in-the-dark reflector o-ring (comes with a regular black to, so you can switch). And the glow-in-the-dark tailcap.
 

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Great review selfbuilt!:thumbsup:
The Only thing I missing is that you haven't mentioned anyting about the glow-in-the-dark reflector o-ring (comes with a regular black to, so you can switch). And the glow-in-the-dark tailcap.
I thought the review was getting pretty long as it was ;) But yes, there is a GITD o-ring around the lens of both lights, and both include a spare GITD tailcap button cover. :)
 

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I just got my ACE-G and I am very happy that it has a nice and smooth beam with no donut. I am anxous to see how it compares to my M1-X and my L950. The sun will be down it a few hours. Does anybody know where to get an extension tube I did not see it listed at 4$evens?

MIke
 

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Does Luma MVP 7 have longer throw than ACE-G ?
 

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They are pretty similar in throw, although the ACE-G puts out more light overall (i.e. noticeably brighter spill).

Note that the MVP P7 has a much larger reflector & head, which may explain part of it. And the ACE-G's reflector is designed to minimize the donut-hole (which it does brilliantly - but likely contributes to reduced throw).

If you are looking for more throw, check out my JetBeam M1X review.
 

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what is effective throw of ACE-G?

I mean effective throw as the maximum distance the object visible to human eyes clearly instead of residual light spill.
 

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UPDATE: I have just been informed by Tiablo that all shipping versions of the ACE-G will have a revised circuit with increased output.

:wave:

I ordered a Tiaßlo A9 a few days ago in Charcoal from Kit-tronic. They informed me that I will have to wait till the new shipments comes out. I wonder if they too will have the revised circuity? :confused:
 

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what is effective throw of ACE-G?
I mean effective throw as the maximum distance the object visible to human eyes clearly instead of residual light spill.
That's hard to say. I certainly find the ACE-G throws as far it needs to for me to see something clearly with the naked eye. Beyond a certain distance, I am limited by own visual acuity - so whether it lights something up sufficiently is hard for me to say without a zoom lens. :shrug:

I ordered a Tiaßlo A9 a few days ago in Charcoal from Kit-tronic. They informed me that I will have to wait till the new shipments comes out. I wonder if they too will have the revised circuity? :confused:
I doubt it - the ACE-G circuitry is rather different from the A9 (MC-E vs XR-E, for one thing). The A9 is very decent light for its price, but it is based on an older design.
 
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That's hard to say. I certainly find the ACE-G throws as far it needs to for me to see something clearly with the naked eye. Beyond a certain distance, I am limited by own visual acuity - so whether it lights something up sufficiently is hard for me to say with a zoom lens. :shrug:


I doubt it - the ACE-G circuitry is rather different from the A9 (MC-E vs XR-E, for one thing). The A9 is very decent light for its price, but it is based on an older design.
Oh well, at least it should give me great lighting for many years for what I will use it for on my helmet. Cause this time of year, I inline skate hauling arse on trails from near sundown to after dusk and I surely wouldn't wanna rollup on a unseen object or worse a alligator :shakehead. Yup, in my part of the world they are here too.
 

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I became dissapointed about the bad performance with the new ACE-G using CR123 in comparison to the predecessor ACE. It was close to I ordered the ACE-G, but discovered the review of it.
It may have just been one review sample that had issues (I notice that Mev reported his ACE-G got unusually warm on 4xCR123A, which is why he didn't complete those runs).

On my ACE-G sample, time to 50% on duracell CR123A was 57min for 2x and 1hr 33min for 4x configuration. That certainly seems consistent with reports on the original ACE (note that I do not have one to test, so don't know what its output was like in comparison). But there is also an unsual dip in output early on in the ACE-G 2xCR123A run, which skews the results (i.e. it may dip down to below 50% before bouncing back up). This is why you have to look at the actual graphs to really compare.
 

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Thanks Selfbuilt for answer,

Yes, I reacted about the sudden temporary drop of ACE-G after ca 15 min in the test at Light reviews. Though I mostly not use a flashlight during 15 minutes without a pause I still want a flat output curve during the usable runtime before the real drop.

Also I wanted to use the ACE-G with 4xCR123 but it's not good if it then becomes very hot.
Therefore I think I will go for another alternative than ACE-G.

Regards, Patric
 

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After your great review I have bought Tiablo A9 with aspherical head, and everybody were stunned by the throwing possibilities of this light because hunters in my country (Croatia Europe) did not belive that this light can out throw mag charger but they were wrong :)

Tiablo A9 with aspherical head costs less than A-10, and as I can C by your test throws much further than it, and runs excellent on 2× cr 123 batteries better than on 18650 batteries and I would say 10 % brighter...

Thank U... U saved my money... And because of U my magcharger is going to retirement :thumbsup:
 

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Can someone compare the ACE G to something like an Ultrastinger or 7060 as far as thrown and spill? I'm not too learned on this end of the market. Still thinking the ACE for duty carry....almost sold but I need a better comparision.

Thanks
 

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Anybody knwos where to get the slightly brighter single-stage version of the A10-G? Only found the two-mode version.

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