Tiablo MA1

[Nake]

I got my MA1 today. Nice light, just like it's brother the A1. I took some readings with my light box. Tiablo hit 100lm this time although briefly, not complaining just stating. With the A1 I got 45lm with a NiMH. The MA1 with a NiMH has a high of 33lm and a low of 9lm. With a 10440 it starts out at 101lm and in about 30sec. drops down to 67lm where it holds. In low it shows 20lm. The beam shape is the same as the A1 with the warm tint most Rebels show. The Positive contact is like the A1, recessed. I used a little ball of tin foil for the 10440 battery to make contact.

Don't ask for pictures, I don't have a camera.

More info; If the light is off for 20 sec or longer it will come back on in Hi no matter what level it was shut off at. Under 20 sec it will alternate between Hi and Lo.

 

[swxb12]

Thanks for the numbers! 67lm is still pretty darn bright. 33/9 on nimh sounds pretty useful.

nm about the tint, just reread your comment.

 

[thom]

Which brand of 10440 your using? I have used both AWs and ultrafires with my A1 and tin fool. It seems I get much less drop off with the AWs. Unfortunately, I have no tools for taking measurements of output other than my eyes.

thom

 

[Nake]

I only have Ultrafire 10440s. I have had other Rebel lights running 4V that act the same way. My thinking is because they get hot fast. Fenix uses a 2mm thick mini-star and has the least drop.
It is hard to see the drop off looking at the beam against a wall. I think, probably because it's gradual.

 

[Ty_Bower]

More info; If the light is off for 20 sec or longer it will come back on in Hi no matter what level it was shut off at. Under 20 sec it will alternate between Hi and Lo.

Sweet. I was hoping someone would say that. It would be kinda annoying if it always turned on to a different level each time you used, even if it had been sitting there off for hours. You'd never know if it was going to turn on high or low. Based on Tiablo's post in the Manufacturer's thread it still wasn't clear exactly how it worked. I may still have to buy a MA1... unless you want to sell me yours someday.

It's a little bit of a bummer your MA1 doesn't seem to be quite as bright as the A1 when both are running NiMH. Maybe it's normal variation in Rebel output? Or perhaps it's due to the different circuitry that is now rated as li-ion safe?

 

[Hitthespot]

I'm disapointed that they didn't raise the current on this one. I would of like to have had a little bit brighter version of the A1. I'll pass on the MA1 until it outputs more light. The A1 is a nice light in it's own right ( I bought 3 ) but I want something around 75 lumens high and 15 lumens low, not 45 high.

Thanks for the review.

Bill

 

[HEY HEY ITS HENDO]

I want to die like my grandfather, peacefully in his sleep; not screaming and yelling like the rest of the passengers in his car.

 

[BirdofPrey]

I'm thinking about pulling the trigger and buying an MA1. However, I really like the A1 and it appears that the MA1 is dimmer than my current light unless I use the 10440 cells.

I'm not opposed to getting these but it seems that everything I find in them is NOT protected and that bothers me. Why is it so hard to find cells in this size that are protected? I don't need to blow my hand or catch my house on fire.

Also, I assume that the run time is shorter with the 10440 cells than with NiMH?

 

[Kilovolt]

These are the readings I get with my luxmeter at 1 m:

A1: 430 lux
MA1: 380 lux - hi
MA1: 130 lux - low

Both lights using the same 850 mAh Energizer NiMH.

In my case however MA1 appears to be brighter thanks to its white beam while the one of A1 is more than slightly greenish.

 

[bspofford]

These are the readings I get with my luxmeter at 1 m:

A1: 430 lux
MA1: 380 lux - hi
MA1: 130 lux - low

Both lights using the same 850 mAh Energizer NiMH.

In my case however MA1 appears to be brighter thanks to its white beam while the one of A1 is more than slightly greenish.

I got a bunch of both, and I don't think there is a difference between them on high - damn bin lotto you know.

 

[Rzr800]

I'm disapointed that they didn't raise the current on this one. I would of like to have had a little bit brighter version of the A1. I'll pass on the MA1 until it outputs more light. The A1 is a nice light in it's own right ( I bought 3 ) but I want something around 75 lumens high and 15 lumens low, not 45 high.

Thanks for the review.

Bill

+1 and thanks for the review also.

I have bought (and given away) both the A1 and LODQ4; hoping that a major manufacturer would bring something new into this category also (getting by with a KD bucklelight). I'm also with BirdofPrey in that I'm not about to carry unprotected cells to achieve what future technology should be coming up with (hopefully) sometime soon. Maybe this newer idea of nano imprinting more holes in these LEDs to achieve greater output will be the boost that these smaller lights need...

 

[takebeat]

Hello!
It is a photograph of my MA1.

The photograph of FENIX L0D CE and KD V3 1AAA SSC U-bin SX0H Buckle Flashlight and LiteFlux LF2 SSC P4 enters, too.

All the batteries are 750mAh NiMH.
I liked MA1 very much.

 

[Ty_Bower]

What's that Ultrafire B3 KLC8 in the last frame, and where'd you get it?

 

[takebeat]

What's that Ultrafire B3 KLC8 in the last frame, and where'd you get it?

Hello, Ty_Bower.
It changed LED by oneself.
"改" is a meaning called MOD.

 

[CandleFranky]

Today my $29 Tiablo MA1 arrived from DealExtreme. A very nice and for me bright enough flashlight. Only the end of the thread is a little bit rough, but no big deal. Against this, Kai's Buckle Flashligt (V3) for $10 less is trash, because its thread isn't firm enough. :tinfoil:

 

[Ty_Bower]

Good deal! I still love my A1. I wish I had been lucky enough to spot the MA1 at DealExtreme for such a fantastically low price. I'd have scooped one up for sure.

 

[CandleFranky]

Good deal! I still love my A1. I wish I had been lucky enough to spot the MA1 at DealExtreme for such a fantastically low price. I'd have scooped one up for sure.

Me too. And bingo, my (DX) MA1 is dead after one day of usage. :thumbsdow
I think I order the buckle flashlight from Kaidomain. :twothumbs

 

[Ty_Bower]

...my (DX) MA1 is dead after one day of usage.

Bummer. :mecry:

How did it happen? Did you use a 10440?

 

[Glow_Worm]

That's so-sad, I'm sorry to hear that.

I love my ($28 DX) MA1. It's brighter than my previous favorite Fenix L0D (in both P4 & Q4 versions) when running on Eneloops, & much-brighter when running on a 10440. In fact, on a 10440, it's comparable to my Fenix P2D-R100 on Hi; maybe a bit less bright than the P2D on Hi, but much brighter than the P2D on Med. And it has a great color warmth & beam profile.

Although the MA1 is a hi-quality torch, I'd only rate it superior to the Fenix in terms of absolute brightness. The Fenix seems much more reliable. My MA1 won't switch to Lo mode until at-least a half-dozen quick on-off maneuvers, so I'd say the Lo mode is basically unusable (for me-at-least).

And although it's at brightest w/ a 10440 battery, it has no over-discharge protection, so I'm reluctant to test it's long-term run-time on a 10440.

But it's ability to shine as well as a much larger P2D is very impressive.

Hopefully someone will soon be able to provide some definitive run-time measurements on a 10440 cell, and some guidelines on what a safe run-time might be when using a 10440 cell.

 

[CandleFranky]

Bummer. :mecry: How did it happen? Did you use a 10440?

I have the Ultrafire 10440, fresh ordered with the MA1. But they doesn't fit, because the Ultrafires head (+) is to broad. I think this is a physical reverse polarity protection. The light suddenly went off after some normal using on NiMH.