bluflaam777
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T just needs to find a buyer and it will get sorted...or not. But it does set a precedent for the other apps to be warned.
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The who reason for the ban is because Chinese corporations are direct arms of the Chinese government. Tick Tock is effectively the CCP.
The data is just theirs, and the algorithms pump the content that the CCP decides it wants. There is no subpoena, or request records, or anything resembling due process. It's just "yes sir Xi."
The Supreme Court Justices brought up a number of reasonable scenarios beyond which sounded pretty worrisome, like blackmailing and compromising officials once they aged into positions of power. They also brought up the clear use of programed Chinese state influence. For example, Tick-tock burrying any content about Tibet or the Uyghurs.
Anyone alarmed by the US government's access to that much data or weponization of that much influence should be exponentially more alarmed the the CCP doing the same. The two are not on par with one another. The CCP is clearly worse. And we are still Americans.
jacobd
Newly Enlightened
Look into companies like Meta and their data sharing agreements with Huawei and similar brands. The US government doesn't care if the CCP gets the data, don't buy into that narrative. The US just cares that they weren't in the loop as well.
Which is fair enough, they're calling the shots over there, but just don't think it was due to some noble quest about not letting the CCP get data.
So unreasonably cynical. The US government absolutely does care if the CCP gets the data.
A data sharing agreement is different from the CCP being mainlined into half America's phones. It's the difference between turning on a spigot a quarter turn turning it on full blast.
The US government would rather the CCP have less of the data than more, and less influence than more influence.
And even, as you're suggesting, it's inevitable that a foreign government were to get all my data, It is the US gov's responsibility to be in the loop on what's being compromised. That's part of their job and I want them to do it.
Being "Nobel" has nothing to do with it.
There's a huge difference between American gov influence and Chinese gov influence. I hope you can you concede that.
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jacobd
Newly Enlightened
Very true words, I definitely think that the Chinese government is FAR more invasive than the US, and that given the two, I'd rather the US gov have my info (as an Australian that uses US social media all the time I'm sure they do)
Me saying the US doesn't care is definitely far too flippant, you're definitely right. They just haven't put nearly as much (public) effort behind stopping the sharing of information before, so it's interesting to see that the time they do is when they aren't as easily in the loop. (Which as I said, is definitely their right)
Me saying the US doesn't care is definitely far too flippant, you're definitely right. They just haven't put nearly as much (public) effort behind stopping the sharing of information before, so it's interesting to see that the time they do is when they aren't as easily in the loop. (Which as I said, is definitely their right)
jacobd
Newly Enlightened
Also I probably am too cynical regarding them 😂
I apologize for being abrasive.
I don't regard the US government as benevolent, but I'll take them over the CCP any day of the week, any week of the year. It's hard to hear anything resembling a moral equivalence made between the US an Chinese governments.
And I'm American. If I'm going to be manipulated by a government, I'd prefer it be my own.
Second choice would be the Aussies!
I don't want any government mining my data.
Period.
Tiktok is required to provide data to the ccp upon request. Same with ad funds. They're not an arm of the ccp like some say. But they are a tool that the ccp can use to manipulate the attitudes of the users. The danger is how they can cause a sector of the population to be complacent to the goings on of a group of bad people who want to dumb down a population and so far they've been largely successful at that.
The thing is a large slice of that population has been groomed and spoon fed for such a task by the US government. A population that will trade their liberty for a free sandwich.
Period.
Tiktok is required to provide data to the ccp upon request. Same with ad funds. They're not an arm of the ccp like some say. But they are a tool that the ccp can use to manipulate the attitudes of the users. The danger is how they can cause a sector of the population to be complacent to the goings on of a group of bad people who want to dumb down a population and so far they've been largely successful at that.
The thing is a large slice of that population has been groomed and spoon fed for such a task by the US government. A population that will trade their liberty for a free sandwich.
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
I've just read a story today about a flight attendant who lost her job after doing a tiktok video of herself dancing and possibly twerking. On company property. While in a company uniform. 🤦♂️
See kids, you can also lose money from tiktok.
See kids, you can also lose money from tiktok.
bluflaam777
Enlightened
No wonder china thinks of us the way they do. LOL
I enjoy the kitty TikToks, but I've only viewed them on YouTube.
bluflaam777
Enlightened
yeah, the animal takyterks are fun/funny. But same, I utoob them.
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
Some kid in Wisconsin set fire to a congressman's office in a fit of rage over the ban. I wonder how he's feeling now that it's been turned back on.
Confined? 😀
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
Ha! Yes they caught him and he actually confessed to the crime. I'm sure that orange suit looks good on him.
So, he feels confined. 😀Ha! Yes they caught him and he actually confessed to the crime. I'm sure that orange suit looks good on him.
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