Tips on buying!

orictheman

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Hi i am pretty new to this stuff, i have been rocking the 3xt6 Ebay lamp and i now want a quality lamp! Thanks!


1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light in person from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
__x__This will be mail-order or Online (location doesn't matter).


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____I don't know yet
____Up to $25.
____Up to $50.
____Up to $100.
____Up to $200.
___x_Up to $300.
____Essentially unlimited.


3) Format:

____I am not sure, please help me decide.
__x__I want a flashlight (hand held/self contained).
____I want a self-contained headlamp.
____I want a headlamp with an external pack/power source.
____I want a mounted light (typically for a bicycle or vehicle)
____I want a lantern/area light.
____I want a portable spotlight (it may have an external power source).
____Other ____________________________________________


4) Size:

____MICRO - Keychain size.
____TINY - Every day carry (2-4 inches).
____SMALL - Every day carry (4-7 inches).
___x_MEDIUM - Holster/belt ring carry. (>7 inches)
____LARGE - Big enough to need its own travel case.
____I don't know/I don't care.


5) Emitter/Light source:

____LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
__x__I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

__x__I want to buy a light from a large/traditional manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would like a light from a specialty manufacturer (Possibly limited run/Custom).
____I am interested in assembling my own components. (for example a "host" or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a "drop-in" emitter from another source).


7) What power source do you want to use?

____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Alkaline batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
____I intend to use "Primary"/Disposable Lithium batteries based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D and CR123 sized cells common to most stores (often a cold weather or long storage choice).
____I intend to use Rechargeable cells (NiMH or NiCD) based on the usual AAA/AA/C/D sized cells common to most stores.
___x_I intend to use Rechargeable cells based on less common formats (18500 or 18650 Li-Ion, RCR123, et-al).
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery pack.
____I don't know/I need more information on power sources.

7a) If you have selected a rechargeable option
____I want a light that plugs directly into the wall (literally with prongs built into the light)
____I want a light that has a recharging adapter (your typical "wall wart")
____I want a light that snaps into a cradle (usually mounted on a wall)
____I want a separate/stand-alone charger (this involves removing the batteries to charge)
__x__I don't care


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is not a happy experience).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (1-10 lumens).
____I want an indoor "blackout" light (15-50 lumens)
____I want to confidently walk around an unlit/unpaved rural area (60-150 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want search and rescue type illumination (800+ lumens).

__x__SPECIAL NOTE: Burst/Turbo mode Category - There are several lights that will run at a super bright maximum for a very limited period (usually 5-10 minutes) and then will "step-down" to a lower level for thermal control. Check here if this is acceptable.


9) Flood vs Throw: Flood covers an area, Throw reaches out to a distance.

____All Flood: I am doing "arms length" tasks like reading and campsite cooking.
___x_Wide Flood: I want a defined flood area for semi-close tasks like after-dark campsite tasks or working on a car.
____Narrow Flood: I want a sharply defined flood area that will project some distance for tasks like trail walking.
__x__Wide Throw: I want a beam with a noticeable hot-center for distance throw and a significant amount of "side-spill". Good for rough trail hiking, search and rescue, and general distance work.
____Narrow Throw: I want a beam with a very tight "hot center" and minimal "side-spill". Good for distance viewing, fog, and looking through dense undergrowth.
____Turbohead: I want a far-distance projector with a sharply focused spot of light and minimal or zero side-spill. Good for extreme distance and impressing your friends.

9a) Distance: How far away will you typically need to see with this light (check all that apply)
____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
___x_50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
__x__150+ yards (I am searching from a helicopter)

10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum continuous output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
__x__30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).




11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light).
__x_Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
__x__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't know.


12) Switch Size, Type, and location (choose all that apply):

__x__Any size switch will do.
____I need a BIG switch (I'll be using gloves or have very large hands or coordination issues).
____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today's high end lights).
____I want a remote switch (usually found on high-end bicycle headlights)
____I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Oscillating pattern to confuse/blind aka "Police Mode")
____I want SOS mode. (blinks in ---...--- emergency pattern)
____I want a beacon mode. (Regular flashes at full power to show location.)
__x__I don't care.
____I don't know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today's higher end flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
___x_I don't care.
____I don't know.
____Other, please specify____________.

15) Water resistance
__x__None needed
____IPX4 (Splash resistant)
____IPX7 (Waterproof to 1 meter/30min)
____IPX8 (Submersible to greater than 1 meter for 4 hours)

16) Storage conditions
____In house (temperature/climate controlled environment)
____Emergency kit (long standby periods)
__x__Automobile glove-box (wide temperature swings, long standby periods, critical reliability)
____Other_________________________________________ ____


17) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any/all below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking, Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments


 
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blah9

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Maybe something like the Fenix PD35? I have experience with that light but there are other similar models from other manufacturers as well. I'm sure other people will have more suggestions, especially if you're looking for something different than that and can say what you don't like about it. :)
 

tubed

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Welcome.
Your demands are pretty general and your price tag is pretty high so there are litterally hundreds of lights that would fill you need.
Read the reveiws section and try to figure out a head of time the qualities that are more or less imortant to you. I.e - size may not be important but UI may be. Battery type is another quality that alters your choices a lot. Figure out if you are comfortable with recharageble lithium ion batteries (like 18650s ) or not.

Off the top of my head -- assuming you're willing to go to $200 and you seem to want a more floody beam but with throw, it sounds like you should look at some multi emitter lights - The Fenix TK75 comes to mind.

Hope this helps
 

ven

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TK75 as above offers a great mix of throw/spill for most uses and some,well made,nice UI and a good brand .

In that budget you should have enough for a 4 bay Xtar or Nitecore charger and 4x18650 protected cells.

Too big??? Maybe check the nitecore tm06 out,nice compact light,again respectable throw(not as much as tk75) but very floody.

Vinh on here does some awesome mods,led swaps and current bumps and well priced .

tk75vn around 4400 led lumens
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?374328-WTS-TK75vn-4400L
tm06vn 4700 OTF lumens

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?394462-TM06vn-True-Tiny-Monster-MUST-HAVE!

Quite a size difference,both eat 4x18650 cells,the tk75vn is fine with good branded cells,the tmo6vn better with IMR or INR cells

tk75vn/tm15/tm06vn

tk75vn in mist


Not best as just front of house
tm06vn


For its size it really does throw and floods pretty awesome,nice u3 swap for a creamy white tint
Or take your pick for what suits
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?371949-V54-Light-List


Single led,the olight sr52vn offers great throw and useful spill



Sure lots of recommendations coming your way,sure 1 will not be enough:naughty: Good luck:thumbsup:
 

orictheman

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Thanks for the tips, been looking at the TK75 and TM26, Since the TK75 will almost be the same price as TM26 due to shipping and import taxes...
TK75 vs TM26? :p
 

thedoc007

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Thanks for the tips, been looking at the TK75 and TM26, Since the TK75 will almost be the same price as TM26 due to shipping and import taxes...
TK75 vs TM26? :p

A lot of people will undoubtedly recommend the TK75 over the TM26...the Fenix does throw better, and can run for a lot longer on turbo (unless ambient temps are quite low, in which case the Nitecore might run LONGER before stepdown). That said, I've owned both lights, and I'd take the TM26 by a huge margin. It is smaller, floods much better, has enough throw for just about any practical use, it is brighter, no battery carrier, cells are in parallel, option of in-light charging, and the OLED is just awesome. After you use it for a while, it really is annoying to have to go back to guesswork. Seeing voltage, temperature, and runtime is SO useful - it is NOT just a gimmick. It has also taught me more about how li-ions perform under load than any number of graphs...nothing like seeing the voltage sag under load in real time. It is an awesome light!
 

Poppy

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I tend to lean towards more flood, than throw, so perhaps the TK35UE may work well. Personally I like the format of the body more than a longer light (like the skyray that I think you are looking at). I think that it has already been mentioned that there could be a hundred different suggestions, and none of them would be wrong.

ven, and thedoc007, both know what they are talking about and have dozens of high powered lights. IMO you can't go wrong following their advice.

Have fun. :)
 

NoNotAgain

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Battery Junction has a 20% off sale on Nitecore products, but ends tomorrow.

An outfit that has been mailing me specials for the past couple of weeks MidwestBlade has a 25% off sale on both Fenix and Nitecore, with free Fenix or Nitecore 18650 batteries depending on light manufacturer, and free domestic shipping.

I suspect that they are supplying 2300Mah batteries, but will work well in both lights you have an interest in.

Illumination Supply, had the 4000 lumen version of the TM26 on sale for $199, but appears to have ended last night.
 

ven

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Illumination Supply, had the 4000 lumen version of the TM26 on sale for $199, but appears to have ended last night.

Damn,any cheaper and might as well give it away,some awesome bargains NNA your side of the pond............no wonder you have so many tm26s :laughing:

:D=not jealous............honest:whistle:
 

orictheman

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So i have found a store nearby me that got a TM26 but they also have a olight sr96, So the question is should i go for the Olight sr96 or TM26?
 

NoNotAgain

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So i have found a store nearby me that got a TM26 but they also have a olight sr96, So the question is should i go for the Olight sr96 or TM26?

Two totally different lights.

The TM26 has been built in three configurations. 3500 lumens, 3800 lumens and the latest, 4000 lumens. All versions use the same basic OLED display. The light can be powered by 8- CR123 batteries, 4-18650 batteries or the NBP-52 battery pack. The TM26 is a somewhat floody light.

The Olight SR96 latest version is rated at 4800 lumens. It uses a triple MKR led configuration. The light uses a proprietary battery pack with no option for other batteries. The SR96 compares well against the modified Fenix TK75vn KT made by Vinh.

Register with Battery Junction, Illumination Supply or another site that I won't mention due to hard feelings (PM if interested) and wait for the next sale. There is a sale just about every week.
 

orictheman

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Two totally different lights.

The TM26 has been built in three configurations. 3500 lumens, 3800 lumens and the latest, 4000 lumens. All versions use the same basic OLED display. The light can be powered by 8- CR123 batteries, 4-18650 batteries or the NBP-52 battery pack. The TM26 is a somewhat floody light.

The Olight SR96 latest version is rated at 4800 lumens. It uses a triple MKR led configuration. The light uses a proprietary battery pack with no option for other batteries. The SR96 compares well against the modified Fenix TK75vn KT made by Vinh.

Register with Battery Junction, Illumination Supply or another site that I won't mention due to hard feelings (PM if interested) and wait for the next sale. There is a sale just about every week.

Well im mostly looking for a lamp with both good spill and range, on papper the tm26 have the longest range but the SR96 has more lumens so i mostly wanted to check here first what pepole would recommend :)
 

thedoc007

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Well im mostly looking for a lamp with both good spill and range, on papper the tm26 have the longest range but the SR96 has more lumens so i mostly wanted to check here first what pepole would recommend :)

I would definitely go for the TM26. It throws farther for sure, and it is a heck of a lot smaller, which means you'll likely get more use out of it. The OLED is not only convenient, but it is also a good learning tool too...you can see voltage sag in real time, for example.
 
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