Titanium Innovations CR123A 1600mAh 3V any good?

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I seem to remember this battery was horrible and not worth buying. This was years ago and maybe that has changed. Anybody have experience with these lately?
 

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I seem to remember this battery was horrible and not worth buying. This was years ago and maybe that has changed. Anybody have experience with these lately?
They seem to have great reviews per battery junction website. I’ve always bought and used Surefire 12 packs for around $20-22 bucks. I may get a couple of these to try out
 

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I don't screw around with any Made in China CR123 lithium primaries.
All of mine are Made in the USA. Streamlight labeled ones are the least expensive. Heck, they're all made in the same factory by Panasonic.
 

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Same factory doesn't mean same specs. If they're made in the same factory it would be hard to know, once something gets said on the internet and repeated a bit, it tends to become gospel. And if something changes, the internet doesn't catch up to reality for years.
 

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Tested every single Made in the USA brand over the last 15 years or so. Literally no difference in real world use. It's not just internet rumor. They're all made by Panasonic. Which is a good thing. Zero Q.C. issues.
 

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Wondering if those were fakes.
Not at all, they were bought from a VERY reputable dealer in Europe.

They have “EU” printed on them, I guess they’re made in Indonesia for the European market.

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Thanks for the pics.
Looks like Panasonic had no issues sub-contracting out the batts. for the EU market.
 

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Very informative. I wonder where Duracell CR2's are manufactured.
 

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Tested every single Made in the USA brand over the last 15 years or so. Literally no difference in real world use. It's not just internet rumor. They're all made by Panasonic. Which is a good thing. Zero Q.C. issues.

And they have had different capacities per brand, as per all the tests we've seen over the years. If they're all the same cell simply because they may or may not be made in the same factory, then why did we always see different capabilities between Panasonic, Energizer, Surefire, Streamlight, Duracell? Working in a factory, or being involved in sourcing components for a certain brand is just the tip of the iceberg. It's not just about "made in the same factory." That's a sales pitch, nothing more. Next it will be "made in the same country". Oh that's right, we've already been there in this thread.
 

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Thanks for the pics.
Looks like Panasonic had no issues sub-contracting out the batts. for the EU market.

Everyone sub-contracts things out when they can get away with it.

And it's the same as sourcing parts with the bean counters and sourcing people working in a factory. One day you have one brass threaded screws from XYZ distributor, then the entire next week you have a nickle threaded screw from ACME Company, then the next two days you have stainless steel ones from Globo Industries.. ect.
 

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Like I said, did my own testing. Saw zero real-world differences over 15 years. I buy Streamlight branded cells because they're usually the cheapest out of all of them. If there is a difference, it sure as heck doesn't effect real-world use. You can believe it's a sales pitch if you want to. Like I said, "Made in the USA" Panasonics. Obviously a clear difference when Panasonic outsources for one part of the world and they don't try to muddy the waters, but are honest with the Made in China variations. I don't see the issue.
 
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