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If I had the money I would definitely get my hands on one. You just can't go wrong with 7000 lumens at that price point. Don't forget the CPF discount!

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It looks like they haven't had time to update the site yet and are still using alot of the information from the L50 page. The pictures are of the L50 so I wonder if they are using a new host for the L70.
 
CajunJosh said:
It looks like they haven't had time to update the site yet and are still using alot of the information from the L50 page. The pictures are of the L50 so I wonder if they are using a new host for the L70.
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Using the GE 35 watt rated D2S bulb is a BIG mistake at 70 watts unless for only very short (few minutes max) bursts. It wont last long and may explode if abused at 70 watts or even close.
The arc chamber gets too hot with sustained 70 watt operation, even 60 watts sustained is too much for it.
The quartz glass chamber becomes "plastic" softens and will fail (interior leak) or explode.
50 watts overdrive is one thing 70 is quite another.
The ballast low end is actually at 40 watts not 35, unless infact they are using the 35 watt GE bulb.
Then it will obviously run reliably down at 35 watts and not flicker (unstable arc).

As far as I know the same housing is being used without change.
 
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CajunJosh said:
It looks like they haven't had time to update the site yet and are still using alot of the information from the L50 page. The pictures are of the L50 so I wonder if they are using a new host for the L70.
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It looks that way. Even the pics are probably of the L50.

I am (almost) sure that the L70 will be a little different in design since it says that the head will swivel 180deg. left & right and 90deg. up and down. The L50 won't, unless I'm nuts. This may be why Matt hasn't chimed in yet.

We'll soon see.
 
SunFire900 said:
It looks that way. Even the pics are probably of the L50.

I am (almost) sure that the L70 will be a little different in design since it says that the head will swivel 180deg. left & right and 90deg. up and down. The L50 won't, unless I'm nuts. This may be why Matt hasn't chimed in yet.

We'll soon see.
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Believe the L70 will be same body as L50... The 90 deg up and down would be for the cheaper version that has moving head at bottom of page (30 or 50 watts and not changeable)


Maybe the Skinny DL-50 would be a nice MID-Point bulb for the L70...

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All shots full Manual Camera Controlls

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Barn Burner Vs Xeray 50w GE35w
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Xeray 50w Bulb Rotation DL-50 Fatboy vs GE35W vs DL-50 Skinny
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Barn Burner Vs Xeray 50w GE35w with a .5 sec exposer step-down
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L70: Unit Dimensions: 11.8" long, 4.35" wide, and 6.7" tall

L50: Unit Dimensions: 11" long, 5.25" wide, and 6" tall

Same for both:
Reflector Diameter: 4.25"
Unit Weight 5.3 lbs.

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I was expecting the L70 to look like the L50 and maybe it will. The person responsible for listing the new light (L70) must have had tee many martoonis to have been able to screw up the description that much! Oh, well.

Lips, I'm glad you were able to see through the smoke screen and come up with the right solution.
 
Is there any reason why the Fatboy bulb wouldn't be a good bulb swap for this light?
 
I would say this is a good application for a Fatboy, IMHO. But before that, let's see what bulb Matt is using.
 
SunFire900 said:
It looks that way. Even the pics are probably of the L50.

I am (almost) sure that the L70 will be a little different in design since it says that the head will swivel 180deg. left & right and 90deg. up and down. The L50 won't, unless I'm nuts. This may be why Matt hasn't chimed in yet.

We'll soon see.
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I hope it's not this host; http://www.batteryjunction.com/titanium-lx50-explorer.html

Looks fragile, not to mention fugly.
 
According to a previous email from Matt, the bulb is a D2S style but not a GE. He said it would be a Korean bulb.
 
Parker VH said:
Is there any reason why the Fatboy bulb wouldn't be a good bulb swap for this light?
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For sustained running down at 40 watts (low setting), the DL50/740 is the best choice. The Fat boy would be the 2nd choice. If it was a dual 50/70 watt (not 35-40/70), the fatboy would be best. The intended Korean bulb flickers down at 35 watts. It is stable at 40 watts and above.

Both versions of DL50/740 OR the fatboy will outperform "the Korean" bulb "70 watt" from either possible Korean source. Have seen and worked with both possible Korean HID bulbs and suppliers.
 
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It'll be interesting to hear from Matt on bulb choice as maybe they changed their choice from when I heard from him. I'm just chompin' at the bit to actually use one of my two Fatboys as I've never had a light utilizing one before.
 
yeah, Matt is going to have to correct a couple of the descriptions for his new items. the L30 scout's description calls it a L50 scout several times, and then calls it the L50 locator at least once.
 
XeRay said:
Using the GE 35 watt rated D2S bulb is a BIG mistake at 70 watts unless for only very short (few minutes max) bursts.
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XeRay said:
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Both versions of DL50/740 OR the fatboy will outperform "the Korean" bulb "70 watt" from either possible Korean source. Have seen and worked with both possible Korean HID bulbs and suppliers.
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I'm not sure what all the pointless references to mistake, bulb failure, explosions, etc. do for anyone. Especially if you started knocking the light about a bulb that it may not even be using. Let's get some concrete facts instead of randomly trying to shoot down possibilities. I always love reading your posts due to the wealth of knowledge you have. I welcome your ideas on how one could take the stock L70 product and improve it.

tab665 said:
yeah, Matt is going to have to correct a couple of the descriptions for his new items. the L30 scout's description calls it a L50 scout several times, and then calls it the L50 locator at least once.
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I agree that the pages need to be corrected. I can't wait to get more detailed info about the product from MattK in the marketplace soon. Once we have better details I'd love to know if we have the option of buying different bulbs to safely use in it.


For now though, seeing as how it will be the only reasonably accessible/ available 70W HID setup for the lowly enthusiast on the market, I'm quite happy with a working light and a Korean bulb. Until someone can build and make available something better, and until we have more details/ an actual review, I think a lot of us can be happy that MattK is bringing such a product to the market.
 
PhantomPhoton said:
For now though, seeing as how it will be the only reasonably accessible/ available 70W HID setup for the lowly enthusiast on the market, I'm quite happy with a working light and a Korean bulb. Until someone can build and make available something better, and until we have more details/ an actual review, I think a lot of us can be happy that MattK is bringing such a product to the market.
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+1 Thanks, Matt :thumbsup:
 
PhantomPhoton; "I'm not sure what all the pointless references to mistake, bulb failure, explosions, etc. do for anyone. Especially if you started knocking the light about a bulb that it may not even be using. They should be much more careful when they unveil a product, better to have no bulb info etc at this point than wrong info. After all, they are taking pre-orders, according to the listing. Let's get some concrete facts instead of randomly trying to shoot down possibilities. I always love reading your posts due to the wealth of knowledge you have. I welcome your ideas on how one could take the stock L70 product and improve it." I already did that (either version DL-50).

If the unit is in fact 35 watts on the low end and not 40 watts (someone will measure it when they come out).
Then either of the Korean bulbs is a poor solution (flickering). Maybe the GE is being used for this 35 watt low power setting reason.
If the light is 40 watts on the low end, then the Korean bulbs (either) is likely an OK choice, just not the best one.
It will be a good solution for keeping the total price down which is important for the average buyer.
 
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