Titanium Quarks

[Th232]

People measured the flash before, it's nowhere near max output, and is not the level last used. That's not what causes it.

As they say, "it's all in your head".

I take it you didn't notice the rest of the post that I edited in?

I'm just about to upload a video to youtube just to make it clear what I'm talking about.

Edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N_S_TNMjek

Dunno about you, but I'm seeing a very big difference between the two flashes...

 

[bcwang]

Is HA3 harder than stainless steel? I'm guessing it is if this problem of scratching the head never manifested itself in the regular Quarks. At least I never heard of it until the Ti Quarks were received by people. I'm assuming the clips are made of the same material in both versions of the Quarks.

 

[Dan FO]

I received my Ti AA today and it had a small scratch from the clip during production. I took the light apart and lubed & cleaned it. While I had it apart I removed the scratch. I have worked quite a bit of titanium and this light is grade 5 titanium, the clip is a 300 series stainless steel. (The Type III anodizing is much harder than the stainless clip on the anoed models.)

 

[jenskh]

I received my Ti Quark AA today (nr 390).
I is a very nice light.
At first I put in the supplied Duracell battery and turned it on. It gave a nice and floody illumination, but wat not very bright. I did not expect that either since it was only advertised as 90 lumens.

I then wanted to test the light output a little. I first did a ceiling bounce with my Fenix L2D which I have earlier measured to be 164 lumens. It gave 16,5 lux in the ceiling bounce. My new Quark gave 6.4 with the Duracell battery. I then did put in a NiMh battery. The output was about the same (6.3). I then put in a 14500 LiIon cell, and wow the room lit up and the luxmeter showed 25 lux!

Based on this, I doubt strongly that the light gives the advertised 90 lumens with alkaline or NiMh battery, but with the 14500 battery it really shines. I am really glad I had some 14500 batteries laying around.🙂

 

[recDNA]

Quark 123 w clip arrived today. Output blows away my P1D. The high beam is brighter than my MG Pli on medium. It also has a bigger spill and hotspot. Very floody. Some of you may not like that but I L O V E floody flashlights.

The flashlight is easily the prettiest I own. I wish I bought one of each. I could have bought a AA from Canada (for a LOT more money than the U.S. website but that's the one I'd want least. I'd prefer the 2 X AA.

Is the AA with 14500 as bright as the CR123? That would make it more attractive. Too late anyway.

The only thing I find disappointing is that the beam is cooler than my P1D and my MG Pli. It looks greenish in comparison. I like cool colored lights but I would have preferred bluish to greenish. When viewed alone the beam looks great. I only notice the greenish shade when compared to the Fenix and the MG.

I bent the clip away from the bezel to avoid scratches but I scratched the head with my scissors taking the flashlight out of that darn impregnable plastic package it comes in. I'd like to murder the guy who invented those unopenable plastic packages. I'm going to EDC it so scratches will happen but.... :-(

I wish the clip allowed deep carry but many have discussed it so no surprise. The 47 symbol on the clip is a nice touch.

I'm pleased with my number though - 700 of 750...nice even number.

Now I've got to get a 2 trits that fit in the lanyard holes. I don't use a lanyard.

 

[DimeRazorback]

Good to hear that you received it, and that you're enjoying it!

 

[Norm]

I bent the clip away from the bezel to avoid scratches but I scratched the head with my scissors taking the flashlight out of that darn impregnable plastic package it comes in.

Open the end of the box and take out the clear package cut the clear spots holding the two halves of the internal shell and it just unclips. No need to destroy the packaging.
Norm

 

[Morelite]

Is the AA with 14500 as bright as the CR123? That would make it more attractive. Too late anyway.

IIRC all the heads are the same except for the 123², tactical and regular is the only difference.

 

[recDNA]

Open the end of the box and take out the clear package cut the clear spots holding the two halfs of the internal shell and it just unclips. No need to destroy the packaging.
Norm

Thanks Norm. If David makes more of them that's useful information. Otherwise all you've done is aggravated the heck out of me!

They might have used black spots I could see.

It's all good anyway. My wife is half a flashaholic. She's the half that LOVES nice flashlights but would never part with the money to BUY one!

Anyway, I showed her that nice shiny Quark and how it lights up half the yard and ...well I love my wife .... so it's in HER briefcase now. On the bright side she'll never get a scratch on it! Darn, I miss that flashlight already.

 

[recDNA]

IIRC all the heads are the same except for the 123², tactical and regular is the only difference.

But they don't all have the same output. SO is the output the same with a 14500? The single AA with alkaline AA isn't as bright as the 1 X CR123

 

[Morelite]

But they don't all have the same output. SO is the output the same with a 14500? The single AA with alkaline AA isn't as bright as the 1 X CR123

The output will be the same when the battery voltage is the same or very close considering the difference in internal resistance of different cells.
So the AA model with a 14500 (3.7v) will be the same as a R123 model and a AAx2 (1.5v alkaline) will be the same as CR123 (3v) and so on. I haven't tested this out yet as I haven't received the 123 model. This is only want I have come to understand so far.
I have been using my AA with a 14500 and it is as bright as the regular aluminum 123 model and both heads look the same when using either one with an Energizer Lithium primary on the AA body. The XP-G head does have a brighter and wider spill but the total output at a close range on a white wall look really close.

 

[recDNA]

The output will be the same when the battery voltage is the same or very close considering the difference in internal resistance of different cells.
So the AA model with a 14500 (3.7v) will be the same as a R123 model and a AAx2 (1.5v alkaline) will be the same as CR123 (3v) and so on. I haven't tested this out yet as I haven't received the 123 model. This is only want I have come to understand so far.
I have been using my AA with a 14500 and it is as bright as the regular aluminum 123 model and both heads look the same when using either one with an Energizer Lithium primary on the AA body. The XP-G head does have a brighter and wider spill but the total output at a close range on a white wall look really close.

I know David is a man of his word and won't do another run of these Quarks since they are a limited edition but I wish these flashlights were available indefinitely. Then I could buy them all 1 at a time and not go broke doing it.

Do you think anybody would actually be mad if 4 Sevens did another limited run of these lights? By limited mean no more than 10,000 of each type!

 

[polkiuj]

The output will be the same when the battery voltage is the same or very close considering the difference in internal resistance of different cells.
So the AA model with a 14500 (3.7v) will be the same as a R123 model and a AAx2 (1.5v alkaline) will be the same as CR123 (3v) and so on. I haven't tested this out yet as I haven't received the 123 model. This is only want I have come to understand so far.
I have been using my AA with a 14500 and it is as bright as the regular aluminum 123 model and both heads look the same when using either one with an Energizer Lithium primary on the AA body. The XP-G head does have a brighter and wider spill but the total output at a close range on a white wall look really close.

That is correct but 2xAlkaline might drop it's output faster depending on the LED (usually not). NiMH is a better choice here. 😀

 

[DimeRazorback]

Do you think anybody would actually be mad if 4 Sevens did another limited run of these lights?

I wouldn't be mad!

I would be very happy!

How foolish I was to only order one!

:shakehead

 

[BentHeadTX]

Interesting idea, you can call the 2nd run "The unlimited edition" with no numbers on the barrel. 🙂

I know David is a man of his word and won't do another run of these Quarks since they are a limited edition but I wish these flashlights were available indefinitely. Then I could buy them all 1 at a time and not go broke doing it.

Do you think anybody would actually be mad if 4 Sevens did another limited run of these lights? By limited mean no more than 10,000 of each type!

 

[Burgess]

I myself would be VERY upset !


How on earth am i possibly gonna' sell mine on EEbay for BigBuck$,

if 4Sevens keeps crankin' these babies out ? ? ?


😗
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[DimeRazorback]

:laughing:

I was going to say a similar thing, but resisted the urge.


😀

 

[SFG2Lman]

woo i got mine and its beautiful! number 254, it even converted a TSA agent today in security before one of my flights...he showed my his 6P that he "modded" for LED use...i first blew him away with my Ti quark...and then pulled out my 6P with the nailbender SST-90 drop-in....i told him there was a safe place for people like us, that he wasn't alone, that this place was called candlepowerforums, and he should check it out...he then followed me around the terminal asking more questions that i was more than happy to answer lovecpf

 

[strinq]

The question is, will these babies really go for big bucks?

What would you guys estimate the price would be?
Pure speculation here.

 

[Norm]

The question is, will these babies really go for big bucks?

What would you guys estimate the price would be?
Pure speculation here.

I hope not, if the TI quarks sell at inflated prices, then the manufacturers of similar lights is going to inflate the price by a similar amount. Then there will be no budget TI lights. :mecry:
Norm