Triple Rebel 100 @2.5A in d26/p60 format

Linger

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Emitter

The obvious inspiration for this is the Moddoo triple. There is a source for bin selected Rebel 100's, (3000k, 4000k, 5000k,etc: I used 2x3000k, 1x4000k) in Ontario, and the flux is listed higher then any cree warm tints (Rebel spec's 105lumen@350ma).
I reflowed these onto a 20mm triple star. They were my 3rd, 4th, and 5th reflowed emitters (1st and 2nd went to a quad m@g) and went perfectly, the liquid solder emerging in a moment as the emiter settled down on it. More efficient then AA or thermal expoxy, now the emiter slug is soldered onto the contact pad.
I wired these in parrallel.
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Each emitter has it's own -'ve coming off the driver. I connected one +'ve to the board and joined the two other contact pads to it. The wiring was a challenge but I'm very happy with the low voltage requirement (the 3p rebels actually tested well w 2s eneloop, 2.4v open circuit so the drop-in would run-on for some time with a primary cell)

Optic
I've grown fond of optics vs. reflectors. I want to see what I shine the light at, and I like the gradual fade to the periphery. Optics have gotten good reviews in some headlamps as being 'more natural' and suiting the higher concentration of rods towards the center of the eye and gradual distribution towards the periphery. (The Ledil Boom is another great one for this beam pattern) I selected the Carlco 'narrow' for this, reported as 12.5FHW, this was as narrow as I could get (3x 5.5FHW polymer optics wouldn't fit the host). This will be my premier wilderness light so it needed decent range to fit the req.
Driver
Easiest would have been to run the emitters in series but that limits my power options, and I'm not familiar with 11.1v drivers. The SB 8x7135 is my consistently performing favourite, low-mid-high + memory, discharge protection...it's great. I should knock the polarity protection off, but I'll do it in with an emitter less dear to me.
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Wiring
All 26g Teflon coated wires, in all contact points. Since I started into Incan I read a lot about m@g resistance mods. With incan, higher voltage is more power, so after a light is designed to meet over-drive spec everything that can be done to reduce resistance and actualy meet that spec is done. It seems common misperception that lower led drive currents haven't made this so pivital, but I've been looking back through reviews and every one I see reports tailcap reading well below the advertised spec. While the majority of it is in cheap batteries, this is a hobby so I have time to do silly things like run wires through my contact springs.
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I added an additional -'ve contact wire and a seperate black wire to each emitter.

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Beamshots
(I have a univ. exchange student from HK renting an appartment, it is her bed cover and shows the beam colour excellently)
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With Moddoo triple xpe
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no comments on battery strenght, triple xpe powered by 2x123's, tripel rebel by an 18650. Hotspot roughly equal, note the excellent colour blending of the 3 rebel emitters, the triple rebel 100 looks uniform even with two 3000k and a 4000k emitter (tint difference visible only when tested individually)

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Slight difference in beams - the xpe triple larger hotspot, triple rebel smaller hotspot but smoother spread, larger 'corona' visible around the spot. So while xpe seems to 'eat' into rebel hotspot the rebel corona reaches almost to the bed and wraps around nicely.

This is a solid combination and an excellent beam. The triple rebel has a defined hotspot for decent range, good blending around the center with a large usable beam that is bigger then traditional hotspot of a reflector and brighter as the majority of light concentrated in the center, less 'waste' lumens spilt around the 180 radius.

Thank-you.
Linger
 
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Linger nice mod. Did you solder the board to a contact ring? What did you do to hold the board in place. Is it potted? Thanks.
 
Mettee,
I reflowed them myself. In the first pic there is a cree xre q4, then a xpe and a xpg, then above you see a little 3pc of rebel100's. And the blank triple board I reflowed them onto.

Luxeon star specs the 100: 105lumen@350ma, 185@700ma.

With a decent power supply it is a powerful drop-in. I recieved 2 more AW imr 18650's yesterday and they do push the triple awfully well.
 
js-lots,
potting is an option, I haven't settled on it yet.
I have a conductive epoxy, it is a small bottle designed to repair breaks in rear-window defoger wiring. As my heatsink is aluminium I can't solder too it - wish I could it'd make everything a lot easier.

Js - rest of answers in PM, ask away.
 
seems like SB no longer has that driver on the site.....
I cant find ANY of the drivers on the SB site. Not the 2.8A one nor the 3-mode 1A driver...hopefully this is only a glitch. These drivers are THE best for modding.
 
well if all else fails we can make our own amc sandwiches, bummer if SB doesnt sell them anymore, I am thinking they are getting a lot of attention on these since the xpe triple came out. Maybe they pull them off the site when they run out?
 
Mettee - I can spare you a 2.8A driver but I don't have enough for a bulk order.

SB only lists items that are in stock. It's an excellent system in some respects, little hassle b/c if you see something it's there to buy.
Send off an email and Bryan will say when the next shipment is expected in.
 
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linger, very nice of you I appreciate it. I have a lot of amc chips here so I should be fine. I am more worried about the heatsink, I cant buy one of those :)

So I will have to make my own on the lathe which is not a big deal, I just have to find the time. Moddoo doesnt sell them anymore.

I will be taking my time on this, I found out a long time ago that a rushed project never turns out as well as I would like it to.
 
I am curious, do you guys think the shark with remora or just the shark for that matter, could run these in series with the right battery?

I wonder what would be the most efficient way to do it, series or parallel like you have with an AMC based driver.
 
Nice setup. I am starting to think about making a setup like this if I decide a single emitter on my helmet is not enough. I will probably go single level series setup with a boost driver and 2x18650. I will make sure the narrowest optic will fit if I'm using it as a helmet light.

What are you putting this in? A P60 host?

I got a few Rebels from Luxeonstar too. They sell them on 10mm square and 20mm star boards now, but seem continually out of stock. I grabbed a few when I saw them available. I wish somebody would sell them by Vf binning too.

The drivers are back in stock today on Shiningbeam.
 
optic is Carlco from Luxeon star but also available from Cutter (and Electron Guru used to sell them maybe he still does?)

Solder is from DX, they shipped it for me in 2 days IIRC. Take precautions with the fumes, but IMHO totally worth it. Testing joint strength I pulled a 24guage wire I'd soldered to a contact pad on a P7 light engine - the joint didn't give, I ended up ripping the contact pad off and pulling the wire trace right off the P7 board. So the paste joint seems strong enough for me.
 
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