upgraded Eneloops

[Bones]

Is this delay because of production run volumes?

Who knows.

But if it is a production volume issue, what would deter a several billion dollar corporation from spending a few tens of millions to ramp up production? Sanyo is the only corporation I'm aware of that seems reluctant to meet the demand for its products. Anyway, if it actually was a capitalization problem, perhaps it will finally be resolved by Panasonic's much deeper pockets.

 

[TorchBoy]

Sanyo is the only corporation I'm aware of that seems reluctant to meet the demand for its products.

To put it in a different light, Energizer is very reluctant to meet the demand for LSD cells. I don't think Sanyo is quite in the same category.

 

[Bones]

To put it in a different light, Energizer is very reluctant to meet the demand for LSD cells. I don't think Sanyo is quite in the same category.

Yes, whereas Sanyo doesn't seem as concerned with the bottom line as they perhaps should, the bottom line appears to be Energizer's only concern.

Mind you, if I was at the helm, I too may have done what they appeared to do, which was to buy up all the 2500mAh NiMH cells in the world at fire-sale prices once the other major brands either discontinued their distribution, or at least de-emphasized their visibility, in favor of cells with a new technology that wouldn't fail in mere months.

Of course, now that even they are starting to recognize the hit their reputation has since taken as a result of the grossly premature failure of the entire inventory of their flagship rechargeable, they are faced with having to see their profit margins contract substantially by switching to what I'm sure is significantly more costly alternative, even if it's presently the lowly 2300mAh regular chemistry NiMH cell manufactured by Sanyo.

 

[Illum]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

"GS Yuasa" (according to what i read on the web, is the one who makes those OEM LSD batteries for Panasonic, Uniross etc) is also rolling out its "EniTime" 2,500 mah AA LSD this year..

http://hk.f2.page.auctions.yahoo.com/hk/auction/b13188520

they're having issues at the moment, this was discussed in Akimasa [Taiwan]
translated version: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmy3c.com%2FD5%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D9049%26extra%3Dpage%253D2&sl=zh-CN&tl=en

Yesterday, getting, breaking of seals found voltage of only 1.20x V, with the MH-C9000 1A discharge, can only be released 200mah, it does not seem consistent with the meaning of Ready to use, I do not know the factory forgot to charge, or should I say I got were to be leakage of defective goods?

using MH-C9000 as the analyzer ，charge/discharge rate both set at 1A，results vary alot，there was two barely near 2000mah，one slightly over 2000mah， the remaining one was the highest, but only up to 2200mah, none reached 2300mah min（testing rechargeables in the past，1A discharge rate at minimum always satisfied manufacturer minimum）​

For those who are Chinese literate, it makes more sense reading the original http://my3c.com/D5/viewthread.php?tid=9049&extra=page=2

 

[cckw]

RE: The japan only eneloop product: Do we want to have a Japanese member buy a bunch and ship it to a US member then break it out and resend to the rest of the USA must have guys?

It would not be very cost effective, but would get your hands on the cool stuff. I could be a volunteer on the US side. Not that I want to, but would if nobody else would do it. I used to do a lot of e-bay with almost never an error.

 

[guiri]

Nah, it would be for the fun of having the colored products 🙂

 

[Winx]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

they're having issues at the moment, this was discussed in Akimasa [Taiwan]
translated version: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmy3c.com%2FD5%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D9049%26extra%3Dpage%253D2&sl=zh-CN&tl=en



For those who are Chinese literate, it makes more sense reading the original http://my3c.com/D5/viewthread.php?tid=9049&extra=page=2

Unfortunately I bought one pack of these from hkequipment. Here's a result straight from the package:

Battery was empty. Not really "Ready to use" as advertised. I charged at 0.6A and stopped charging at 3419mAh!! Turnigy was showing a voltage of 1.46V but I didn't measure voltage myself. I'll do a discharge test when I get home.

One cycle and here are the results. Don't waste your money on these.

 

[aim54x]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

DOES ANYONE MAKE A HIGHER CAPACITY LSD THAN SANYO?

Maha Powerex Imedion 2100mAh I have had no issues with these, they run nicely next to my Eneloops (not mixed together though)

 

[Vikas Sontakke]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

Winx,

Can you tell me the parameters set to measure the NiMh discharge on your Turnigy? Discharge current and termination voltage?

Thanks,
- Vikas

 

[Winx]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

Winx,

Can you tell me the parameters set to measure the NiMh discharge on your Turnigy? Discharge current and termination voltage?

Thanks,
- Vikas

Vikas,

0.8-1A discharge, 0.7A charge, one DCHG-CHG cycle.

For comparison I got about 2050-2100mAh from Panasonic Infinium. Pretty much same results with a few batteries in series.

 

[RAGE CAGE]

Yes the MQH02. I will try to log the temperatures with an IR thermometer, but I don't need to charge very often...

The old eneloops are now on sale:

BTW, notice the gigantic NC-TGU01 box to the right (that is the charger that charges 2xAAA, 2xAA, 2xC and 2xD, C and D beeing the new high-capacity eneloops and not the spacers).

They have stickers saying it's old technology that only works 1000 times:

looks like eneloop nirvana there- wish I could visit- are you in Japan, Singapore or Phillipines?

 

[dex138]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003ELMS5C/

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002S0N8V8/

both from Dandy Shop. (out of Germany I think)

Ordered these the other day and was informed today that both were SHIPPED! BRP 12.80 total freight to Canada.

Go getum folks!

And to the one who thought the Eneloopy was a charger? it's not a charger, its a tester!'

EDIT: according to writeups both these items contain the next gen eneloops!

EDIT #2: The Eneloopy listing image shows that batteries and charger are included...this is not the case... this is for the tester only!! AAARRRGG!

 

[illumiGeek]

Hmm... same shipping to Hawaii. So about $56.40 for a pack of 8 colored batteries (or "coloured" as the Brits say) and an "eneloopy" dog (@ current exchange rates).

Double the order and the shipping is still the same, so it goes down to $47.10 each (batteries+tester).

Hardly a bargain, but tempting for the cool factor... 🙂

 

[Mr Happy]

Also it looks like the Eneloopy comes with a two bay charger...or that the charger comes with an Eneloopy.

 

[mfm]

Also it looks like the Eneloopy comes with a two bay charger...or that the charger comes with an Eneloopy.

The picture here is wrong, the item sold is only the Eneloopy.

But yes, there is a pack with the Eneloopy, the charger and two batteries (thats the one I bought) and there is another pack with only the Eneloopy (and yet another one with only the charger ofcourse).

 

[dex138]

Hmm... same shipping to Hawaii. So about $56.40 for a pack of 8 colored batteries (or "coloured" as the Brits say) and an "eneloopy" dog (@ current exchange rates).

Double the order and the shipping is still the same, so it goes down to $47.10 each (batteries+tester).

Hardly a bargain, but tempting for the cool factor... 🙂

Its ALL about the cool factor.........

 

[dex138]

The picture here is wrong, the item sold is only the Eneloopy.

But yes, there is a pack with the Eneloopy, the charger and two batteries (thats the one I bought) and there is another pack with only the Eneloopy (and yet another one with only the charger ofcourse).

This is confirmed.... DEFINITELY only a tester... no charger. no batteries, not even a box! :shakehead

 

[mfm]

This is confirmed.... DEFINITELY only a tester... no charger. no batteries, not even a box! :shakehead

Strange, the ones for retail definitely comes in boxes similar to the one in the picture. There should be a manual included aswell. Does it come with the dogbones and the spacers for AAA cells?

 

[dex138]

Yes, it comes with 2 bones and 2 spacers, but no manual.

 

[Sugarboy]

Re: Using all 1500 cycles? Gimme a break.

they're having issues at the moment, this was discussed in Akimasa [Taiwan]
translated version: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmy3c.com%2FD5%2Fviewthread.php%3Ftid%3D9049%26extra%3Dpage%253D2&sl=zh-CN&tl=en



For those who are Chinese literate, it makes more sense reading the original http://my3c.com/D5/viewthread.php?tid=9049&extra=page=2

i only hv a pack of 4 x 800mah enitime for my wireless mouse.. so far so good.

last time i check, the street price for a pack of 4 x 2,500mah enitime AA is HK$65 (~USD 8)

Yuasa Enitime is essentially replacing all Uniross Hybrio (which itself is a rebadged Yuasa) here