Surefire is less that some Chinese tac lights though?
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Streamlight's first 2AA was a Mini-Mag knockoff called the Mini-Mitelite, and then after some legal drama with their other lights it was redesigned into the Streamlight Jr. That should have been around 1986 or thereabouts. They were in Norristown from '77 until 2001 or or so.
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First pic. on that website.... Looks like the most generic Made in China flashlight, ever! Seriously doubt it's Made in the USA.
This reminds me of Eagletac when they first arrived on CPF.
Some companies think they can claim "Made in USA" if their headquarters are located in America.... or if they pretend an American employee's residence is their headquarters. Yeah, doesn't work that way.
Some companies think they can claim "Made in USA" if their headquarters are located in America.... or if they pretend an American employee's residence is their headquarters. Yeah, doesn't work that way.
This is the only statement I see, and it's under 'About'. I'm not seeing the location of assembly / manufacture. Where's that?
"Designed in the USA. Assembled with globally sourced components."
Translation: Made in China.
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Schokokeks
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I'm not sure if I quite understand your question (it's worded a bit vaguely), but I'll try.
I think it's fair to say Surefire is "the standard" for made in USA, cause everything is kind of compared to them. They're "the big player" for more serious made in USA lights. I think Maglite might sell the most by volume of the US manufacturers, but they're not typically used by police and military.
I honestly have no idea what a "modern power LED" is, nor what exactly a "modern light" is. Are you asking if the LEDs are made in the U.S.? Pretty much the entire electrical component industry has been in Asia since World War 2, so...and most of the LED companies aren't even based i the U.S. (Osram being German, Luminus being Belgian, Nichia being Japanese), so there wouldn't ever have been a huge incentive to build the infrastructure for that in the U.S.
bluflaam777
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Legal definition? FTC states that "all or virtually all" of the parts are made and manufactured in the US. The 'virtually' part of it is defined by it being far enough removed from manufacturing that is doesn't play a significant roll or the part isn't an important part of the manufacturing or end product's function.
An LED made overseas and put on a stereo otherwise made in the US doesn't count it out of being able to say, "made in the USA". If you take the LED out it still functions as a stereo.
A maker of a flashlight that used an LED made overseas can't (legally) say "made in the USA". An LED is an integral part of the end result. If you take the LED out it no longer is a flashlight. I know of some "USA made" torches that legally aren't made in the US because of this.
The ftc doesn't require prescreening of the use of that claim tho. Anyone can make that claim...until they get caught. Usually that means someone has to complain, or the company has to get big enough to get on the ftc's radar.
MAG stopped using "made in the USA" for this reason. Enough bits that make the light function as a light are made overseas that they can't legally make the claim and they're big enough to be on government agencies radar.
I like your explanation.
Like "Swiss Made" watches except lights apparently are stricter and thats a good thing.
Like "Swiss Made" watches except lights apparently are stricter and thats a good thing.
Oh, no; that is a very different thing! It's basically a scam. A few very short years ago, you could legally have those words placed on the dial of your watch, if 51% of the components were assembled in Switzerland. Yup! That's it! That is all it took. You've got micro-brands making cheap as hell models that could legally put those words on their dials. Huge difference between a legal definition vs. the real thing. You want the real thing? Rolex is the cheapest option for that.
Recently they changed the percentage required to LEGALLY put those words on a watch-dial. Now you need more than 51%. But honestly, not much more! Still an industry-wide scam to trick customers into paying a premium for a watch they think is legit.
Honestly, back before the Civil War broke out in America, there was a financially successful Free Black woman in one Southern state. So successful that a state legislator decided to introduce a bill to have her legally declared "White." I'm not even joking! This was real! Yeah, same type of insanity with that whole "Swiss-Made" nonsense. Thankfully, "Made in America" still carrires real weight to it. It's why so many companies will put "Assembled in America" on their products. Not remotely the same legal, rigid standards as "Made in America."
Yes the standards for swiss made are very lax indeed. Personally they should be required to put the info on where the parts are made and where it is assembled.
Honestly swiss made should mean 100% swiss parts produced and assembled in Switzerland period.
Hopefully America will continue to hold the highest standards.
Honestly swiss made should mean 100% swiss parts produced and assembled in Switzerland period.
Hopefully America will continue to hold the highest standards.
