Very New flashlight guy needs flashlight recomendation

hunter s thompson

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For all questions please select all that apply.


1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
___x_I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! 🙂

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
__x__Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

_x___I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
__x _Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

__x__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

____I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
_x___I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.(I would love to try this out but have no ideal where to start)


7) What battery type do you want to use?

____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
__x__I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.) (I already own several 14500 and a charger I really like this set up)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
__x__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
__x__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
__x__90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
__x__Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival). (I work as a paramedic)
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

__x _I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
__x__I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.) (at least 2 levels)
____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
_x___I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
___x_Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
__x__Pocket/belt clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

I already own a ThruNite 1AAXM-L LE which I love but I find myself "needing" another fix. I am open to any suggestions but do to the fact the wife will probably kill me if I get another hobby, I would like to stay with sub $100 flashlights at this time. Thanks in advance.
 
Lumintop TD-15X. $99, 5 inches, 720 lumens, Cree XM-L T6 LED, single 18650, great build.
 
Lumintop TD-15X. $99, 5 inches, 720 lumens, Cree XM-L T6 LED, single 18650, great build.

5 inches? what? its 6-11 inches. Its a great light, and the UI is very good. Order from lightjunction with the CPF 12 percent off code for the strobe model. Zebralight SC51? Thrunite Scorpion/2C?
 
5 inches? what? its 6-11 inches. Its a great light, and the UI is very good. Order from lightjunction with the CPF 12 percent off code for the strobe model. Zebralight SC51? Thrunite Scorpion/2C?

It's 5.5 inches with no battery extenders, which will run 1x18650. Extender tubes add 1.3 inches each, and I think the most that's supported is two. So even the long form is just over 8 inches. I just measured mine to confirm. (Boy does that sound funny without context.)
 
What a great recommendation...I didn't know about the new TD-15X with the XM-L. I just watched the video review at Lightjunction.com - ClickHere - and I like that it can go from 1 to 2 18650's or 2 to 3 to 4 RCR123 or CR123 primaries. I wish it had one more low setting though, but looks great.
 
The 4Sevens 123*2 is a good recommendation, but only about 200 lumens. Plus, I believe these all are the S2 emitters, which typically are very green tint. I have a S2 version and it's very green. I also have a XP-G R5 version, and it's perfect neutral tint.

However, my recommendation for the OP is a EagleTac T20C2 MKII XM-L T6 *550 Lumen. I see this for $89 at Pacific Tactical (currently sold out though). I own two EagleTac lights currently and they are very nice quality. Plus, I absolutely LOVE the EagleTac UI (be sure to get the 'MkII' version though). The ET UI is very simple. With tight head, it will come on in 'Hi'. With loose head, it will come on in 'Med'. If you turn on, then off, then on again quickly, it will come in strobe. But strobe can be completely disabled, if desired. Other hidden modes are available by two rapid tighten/loosen of the head. But most times, you (saying this to OP, as indicated on selection chart) will only use high or low or strobe, so this UI seems perfect for OP. Additionally, this light can use two CR123 batteries, or you can use 18650 rechargeable. This ET light would be about the same size as the Lumintop TD-15X mentioned above.

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I would suggest you get a Zebralight H51Fw headlamp as well so you could free up your hands while working on a patient. The 'F' designation tells you that it is a flood light and the 'w' designation means that it is a warmer tint which is great for showing you skin tones and blood. It runs well on Eneloop batteries and I think it would make a great companion to any flashlight that you are going to get.
 
Or the H51w with phaserburn's diffusion film-less floody than the H51Fw, but still very much so. I'm sitting with my TD15X in front o me, and it measures 6 inches long. It can take 3 18650's, which brings it to 11 inches.
 
The 4Sevens 123*2 is a good recommendation, but only about 200 lumens. Plus, I believe these all are the S2 emitters, which typically are very green tint. I have a S2 version and it's very green. I also have a XP-G R5 version, and it's perfect neutral tint.

However, my recommendation for the OP is a EagleTac T20C2 MKII XM-L T6 *550 Lumen. I see this for $89 at Pacific Tactical (currently sold out though). I own two EagleTac lights currently and they are very nice quality. Plus, I absolutely LOVE the EagleTac UI (be sure to get the 'MkII' version though). The ET UI is very simple. With tight head, it will come on in 'Hi'. With loose head, it will come on in 'Med'. If you turn on, then off, then on again quickly, it will come in strobe. But strobe can be completely disabled, if desired. Other hidden modes are available by two rapid tighten/loosen of the head. But most times, you (saying this to OP, as indicated on selection chart) will only use high or low or strobe, so this UI seems perfect for OP. Additionally, this light can use two CR123 batteries, or you can use 18650 rechargeable. This ET light would be about the same size as the Lumintop TD-15X mentioned above.

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Moving this to the LED Flashlights forum.

Bill

Sorry to cause you unnecessary work Bullzeyebill.

Thanks for all recommendations, I am going to purchase both the Eagle Tac and the Headlamp. I am having a hard time getting my head around the Lumintop TD-15X. To run the light on an 18650 I need 1 battery extender, or I need 1 battery extender to run the light on 2 18650's? Sorry for so many questions but I am trying to learn and have started out way behind the curve.
 
No you don't need an extender to run a single 18650, you need one battery extender to run 2x18500 or 3xcr123. You can add two extenders to run 2x18650 or 4xcr123. Its a great light very bright and well made but so is the T20C2 MKII XML. If you want a bit smaller and lighter go with the T20 but if you want maximum brightness and more versatile battery configurations go with the TD15X.
 
Or the H51w with phaserburn's diffusion film-less floody than the H51Fw, but still very much so. I'm sitting with my TD15X in front o me, and it measures 6 inches long. It can take 3 18650's, which brings it to 11 inches.

Three 18650s? That must be what, four extender tubes? Yikes!
 
Sorry to cause you unnecessary work Bullzeyebill.

Thanks for all recommendations, I am going to purchase both the Eagle Tac and the Headlamp. I am having a hard time getting my head around the Lumintop TD-15X. To run the light on an 18650 I need 1 battery extender, or I need 1 battery extender to run the light on 2 18650's? Sorry for so many questions but I am trying to learn and have started out way behind the curve.

As jhc says above, you don't need any extenders to run 1x18650, which is my preference because I like smaller lights.

On the battery front, yeah, it seems confusing at first, but here's the secret: with the sole exception of 10440 (AAA size), everything is measured in multiples of 1/6 of a decimeter. For example: 14500 = 1/2 dm (50mm), RCR123A = 16340 = 1/3 dm (34mm), 18650 = 2/3 dm (65mm). Thus 2xRCR123A is the same length as 1x18650, and 3xRCR123A is the same length as 2x18500.
 
As jhc says above, you don't need any extenders to run 1x18650, which is my preference because I like smaller lights.

On the battery front, yeah, it seems confusing at first, but here's the secret: with the sole exception of 10440 (AAA size), everything is measured in multiples of 1/6 of a decimeter. For example: 14500 = 1/2 dm (50mm), RCR123A = 16340 = 1/3 dm (34mm), 18650 = 2/3 dm (65mm). Thus 2xRCR123A is the same length as 1x18650, and 3xRCR123A is the same length as 2x18500.


This is interesting, but a little confusing.

IMHO, it's much easier to remember the batteries simply by their designations. For instance, an "18650" battery means it's "18" mm wide x "65" mm long and the "0" denotes a round shape. There is a little variation in sizes, even with exact same battery numbers..........

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