Wait for P3D Rebel L80 or buy normal P3D.

[ddgarcia05]

I'm in the market to buy a Fenix P3D-CE. I was shopping around for the lowest prices, which happens to be ebay. I was ready to buy but I just found out Fenix is going to be relaseing it's P3D-L80 which has a Rebel LED. My question is what on earth is the difference between a normal P3D-CE and the P3D-L80? Is there really going to be a difference between in who much there is? Should I just wait a week and get the L80 or just buy the standered P3D?

 

[LukeA]

The P3D-L100 was listed for a little while, but is sold out. I'd wait for that one. It's 20% brighter than the other P3Ds.

 

[rizky_p]

waiting for P3D with Q5 or R bin maybe?

 

[LukeA]

waiting for P3D with Q5 or R bin maybe?

The Rebel is brighter than the Q5.

 

[LGCubana]

The Rebel is brighter than the Q5.

Specific to the Fenix-Store.com offering, the Rebel80 is equivalent to the standard P3D's output.

 

[LukeA]

Specific to the Fenix-Store.com offering, the Rebel80 is equivalent to the standard P3D's output.

I'm taling about the Rebel100, which is 20% more efficient than the Rebel80.

 

[ddgarcia05]

Damn, so I was better off just buying a normal P3D-CE, then ordering the P3D-L80 and having to wait 2 weeks to get it. You should have told me this yesterday. I hate this. I'm going to buy a Inova X5 or the mean time.

 

[o0o]

Does the Rebel 80 do anything better than the Cree? Runtime? Color rendition?

 

[ddgarcia05]

Does the Rebel 80 do anything better than the Cree? Runtime? Color rendition?

Beats me.

 

[easilyled]

The Rebel is brighter than the Q5.

Not according to this thread:-

http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=169547&page=2

Post #53 shows that when McGizmo conducted tests, his Q4 Cree was
12-16% brighter than the rebel led at 1000ma.

McGizmo has designed the most fabulous lights and their components
and tested leds since their infancy, so I would trust what he says
implicitly.

 

[Radio]

Should I just wait a week and get the L80 or just buy the standered P3D?

Buy Both!!!! :green:

 

[ddgarcia05]

Buy Both!!!! :green:

I'm thinking about buying both. I just hate thinking I'm going to have to wait. I'm going to buy a P2D-CE for the mean time. I'll play with that for about two weeks before the P3 comes in.

 

[win67]

The P3D Rebel looks like they put a rebel in a light with the normal reflector of the cree version... not so good, I think! Give them a little bit more time.... Just put a Q5 in it, take the op reflector as a standard and center the led well. (My p2d has a ugly beam...)
And please: don't put loctite in the threads....

Maybe 47 should relax a little bit more, too... "Q2 special edition" - "Q5s for 25$" and so on...

 

[LukeA]

Not according to this thread:-

http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=169547&page=2

Post #53 shows that when McGizmo conducted tests, his Q4 Cree was
12-16% brighter than the rebel led at 1000ma.

McGizmo has designed the most fabulous lights and their components
and tested leds since their infancy, so I would trust what he says
implicitly.

But even he admits that his test has only one sample and that the emitters were not at the same temperatures, and both of those factors can result in large variations in results.

 

[IsaacHayes]

rebel might have a brighter hotspot and dimmer spill, since the beam angle is wider, thus more light gets focused and less comes forward as spill, compared to the cree.

 

[Nitroz]

rebel might have a brighter hotspot and dimmer spill, since the beam angle is wider, thus more light gets focused and less comes forward as spill, compared to the cree.

Right, the Cree should work better with optics, deeper reflectors, and of course, the insane aspherical lens.

 

[LukeA]

rebel might have a brighter hotspot and dimmer spill, since the beam angle is wider, thus more light gets focused and less comes forward as spill, compared to the cree.

Actually, the Rebel emits more of its light inside ±40˚ than the Cree, based on information from the emitters' respective datasheets.

 

[easilyled]

But even he admits that his test has only one sample and that the emitters were not at the same temperatures, and both of those factors can result in large variations in results.

That may be the case, but it illustrates that your unequivocal statement
certainly does not apply in every situation and therefore it is misleading
to say the least.

Especially since you have not conducted any tests and supplied any figures
to back up your assertion.

Furthermore it was only a Q4 that Don was using, so one would expect a Q5 to be even brighter
compared to a rebel than a Q4.