want a pack of nimh, is uniross or camelion good(not low self discharge)

[loser]

i've been trying to search about uniross battery here but all i get are hybrio.

i will be using the batteries on my digital camera so i guess 2500mah. i have heard people saying they had bad experiences with uniross or camelion like one of the cell in a pack of 4 is bad or something like that. have they improved?

 

[kaj]

I haven't tried either of those brands but I like the Powerex 2700's and the Sanyo Eneloops. I bought these because of how many times these were recommended on this forum and I have not been dissapointed at all.

 

[cave dave]

The price difference between really great batteries (like eneloop) and marginal or unknown batteries isn't worth the risk or research. Just buy the good ones to begin with.
LSD: Eneloop
non-LSD: Duracell 2650's, Sanyo 2700

 

[Mr Happy]

If you find Uniross Hybrios sold in the US (the ones sold in Europe or Australia may be different) that look like the ones pictured here then they are really good batteries. In my testing I could not tell any difference between those Hybrios and Eneloops. See this thread: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=192345&highlight=hybrios+eneloops

In my opinion the choice is easy. If you see Hybrios like the ones described at a sensible price, get them.

 

[loser]

thanks but i don't want low self discharge.

 

[loser]

thanks but i don't need low self discharge.

 

[loser]

what about this?

http://www.energizer.com/PRODUCTS/H...ABLES/Pages/rechargeable-battery-charger.aspx

 

[Unforgiven]

thanks but i don't want low self discharge.

thanks but i don't need low self discharge.

what about this?

http://www.energizer.com/PRODUCTS/H...ABLES/Pages/rechargeable-battery-charger.aspx

If you don't want low self discharge batteries then the Energizer 2500's are the way to go. Many of them have the fastest self discharge rate available. :twothumbs

 

[csshih]

ahhaa, unforgiven.

Just wondering, loser, why not?

 

[loser]

i' m using sanyo 2500 and they are great. their discharge rate are reasonable to me.
but i want one more pair
coz i heard that battery over 2500 tends to lose charge fast
what about panasonic 2600 or sanyo 2700?

 

[LEDninja]

If you are using them in digital cameras stick with Eneloops (or the Duracell Pre-charged MADE IN JAPAN). They are the only ones I have that can deliver the high amps required by the latest digital cameras.
My digital camera keep tells me my other batteries are empty when they are only half drained (I can still run them for hours on my CD player after).
So a 2500 mAH that gets rejected by the camera at half drained is just 1250 mAH while an Eneloop will give you the full 2000 mAH. Digital cameras need a lot of AMPS, not just mAH.

Do not limit yourself to Uniross. I would suggest finding out all the brands and CAPACITIES available to you. Then check if Silverfox has tested them here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=79302

Good battery. Note how the battery can maintain 2A at 1.2V for half its capacity and 2A at 1.1V for almost all of its capacity.

Bad battery. Can not maintain 2A at all. (Energizer's own 2100 mAH can out perform it)

 

[loser]

it's true that my cameras tell me out of battery and i can still use those batteries on other stuff for days. i thought they hadn't got enough mah to run the camera

 

[Niconical]

If you don't want or need low self discharge, get eneloops anyway and pretend they're just regular nimh.

An eneloop even without it's LSD qualities is still a great battery

 

[LEDninja]

2 problems with Eneloops though.
The high price and lack of availability.

The Duracell Pre-Charged Made in Japan is the same battery. Still high priced but more readily available.
Do not get Duracell Pre-Charged Made in China. These are a different battery. You only get half as many pictures from a digital camera with them. They come in the charger packs.

I only use Eneloops/Duracell Pre-Charged Made in Japan in critical things like digital cameras and my highest powered AA/AAA flashlights. I use less expensive Pure Energy Pre-Charged/RayOvac Hybrids in less demanding equipment.

 

[loser]

does eneloop need specific charger? or a normal one would do

 

[Niconical]

Any charger for nimh is fine for eneloops, although as with any nimh, a good charger is half the equation when it comes to getting the most from your batteries.

 

[loser]

are there any eneloop made in china that i should watch out?

 

[LEDninja]

All Eneloops are made by Sanyo in Japan.

 

[Mr Happy]

Also please note my post #4 above. Some of the Uniross Hybrios you can get in the USA are as good as Eneloops or the Duracell Pre-Charged Made In Japan.

 

[Hooked on Fenix]

If you don't want low self discharge batteries then the Energizer 2500's are the way to go. Many of them have the fastest self discharge rate available. :twothumbs

It should be cleared up that you meant that as a joke and not an actual suggestion. Those batteries are pieces of junk. 3 dozen of them have failed on me in the last year or two. Most last about 10 good charges and then start to discharge rapidly. First they die in a week, then within 24 hours. That's if you use them in a slow charger. If you use them in Energizer's 15 minute charger, you'll be lucky to get a few charges out of them before the warning light comes on. These are the last batteries on earth I would ever suggest for anyone to buy.
As some have suggested Eneloops, we need to point out the benefits of these over the higher capacity batteries. Eneloops are about the only rechargeable battery that works well in cold weather. I recently got back from a backpacking trip in the Sierra Nevada mountains and used Eneloops for my PT EOS headlight. They worked great and I think it got down into the 20s while I was up there above 11,000 feet. Eneloops have a higher voltage than most rechargeables which is closer to that of alkalines (about 1.48 vs. 1.43 volts). This is needed if you have voltage sensitive equipment. Some devices like digital cameras have a higher operating voltage and don't work down to 1 volt per cell. In devices like these, batteries with a higher voltage will last longer. Then there's the lowest self-discharge rate in the NiMH battery industry. These batteries don't have to be topped off every two weeks to a month to make sure they have enough power. They also get more charges than high capacity batteries.