The same technique is used in certain situations in rock climbing with carabiners. I've thought about doing it with my Draco as well, as it's fallen off the clip once when it was around my neck.dammitjim said:I've seen a pic where someone used two of them, facing each other. Much more hassle to remove but would be very unlikely to come undone.
I agree that using a swivel might help, but it's not lateral shearing forces that opens the clip's gate:
I was playing with some of my McGizmo clips to see if I could replicate this. From my testing, I can say it's not the shearing force deforming the gate until the clip opens. What I'm seeing is the split rings attached to the clips get twisted onto the gate as you rotate the clip (or the attached object). If you continue the rotation, the edge of the split ring will push the gate open, which will release the object from where it's attached.
I have the motion down to where I can detach my wife's SAK from her keychain with a swift rotating movement. I can totally see how this could accidentally happen in somebody's pocket, or under normal use. The solution? Use a smaller slit ring (one that fits onto the clip, but does not touch the gate when twisting.
Another reason I don't like to add swivels is that they add to the total length of the attachment, and I like to keep things compact.
Beamhead said:I noticed the same issue right away, so I just squeeze the opening in the tips of all sizes with needle nose pliers (creating a hook if you will) so it wont easily come off. Haven't had a problem yet......knock wood.
dammitjim said:There should be a number stamped on the side of the clip to indicate it's size, what number is yours? I don't trust the 0s but the 1s seem ok.
dammitjim said:I've seen a pic where someone used two of them, facing each other. Much more hassle to remove but would be very unlikely to come undone.
DM51 said:I've just tried this twisting trick with my set-up (as in post #25 above). It is possible, and once I got the knack it wasn't too difficult. However, I don't think it is very likely to happen by accident as the movement has to be exactly right each time to do it. I think this is because the stainless steel split ring I am using is quite thick and it has to be positioned and twisted in a very precise way, which is unlikely to happen randomly in my pocket.
Lurveleven said:I tried this and using the rotating movement it is easy to get them to detach.
Yup, that was my solution, as mentioned before. I'm glad others found that useful.dammitjim said:But using a very small ring that is not much larger than the diameter of the fat part of the clip (the Leatherman ring attachment happened to be that size) it is impossible for the ring to get over the hinge part of the clip and allow a twisting action to force it open.