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That sounds like a blast pun intended
hope they had something fun to shoot at, like an old riding lawn mower or some Facebook Servers
knucklegary
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^ Prius
No! I know you guys are joking. But still.... just no.
How bout making it interesting?
Shoot something that can shoot back.
Not a Prius, but a Predator. 😁
Shoot something that can shoot back.
Not a Prius, but a Predator. 😁
It's time for a bump with a pew pew from the past -
This one is mine.
Raven Arms
Model P-25
Cal. .25 Auto.
Made in Industry Calf.
USA
Brad Fitzpatrick
Guns and Ammo May 7, 2024
The first dedicated carry gun I ever shot was my father's Raven .25 ACP, a pint-size pistol made from zinc alloy that sold for under a hundred bucks. It wasn't much for accuracy, and firing the short-barreled .25 was rather like pulling the pin on a hand grenade, but in the days before polymer-frame striker-fired carry pistols became popular it was a suitable — if not ideal — self-defense handgun.
The .25 ACP is one of a long list of handgun cartridges that aren't as popular today as they were in years past. But that doesn't mean there aren't still fans. Firearms chambered in .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .32 H&R Magnum, .357 SIG, and .44 Special are still in use for self-defense, and the cartridges aren't any less potent. The biggest impediment these cartridges faced was a lack of new, modern loads with sophisticated defensive bullets designed to perform in the worst situations.
The .25 ACP cartridge was developed by John Browning and released in 1905. From its inception, the .25 ACP was designed with small, easily concealable "pocket pistols" in mind. Originally, FN produced the Model 1905 chambered in .25 ACP, a design that would later be refined and become the "Baby Browning" that served as the archetypal pocket pistol for years. Accordingly, companies including Colt, Walther, and others offered .25-caliber pocket pistols. In the years following the Gun Control Act of 1968, rules against importation of inexpensive pint-sized .25s prompted folks like George Jennings of Raven Arms to produce small, lightweight .25 ACP pocket pistols domestically.
The .25 ACP was not (and still is not) a powerhouse round, only producing somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. Still, it was viewed as a step up from rimfires and was diminutive enough to be chambered in very, very small pistols. The knock on the .25 ACP, of course, was that it could not be reliably counted upon to stop a violent attacker, a bad rap that was exacerbated by a shortage of quality self-defense ammunition. But that has changed, and recently Federal began offering a .25 ACP load in its Punch line of self-defense ammo that pushes a 45-grain FMJ bullet at 825 feet per second. The bullet is optimized for maximum penetration, improving the .25 ACP's potential as a personal defense cartridge.
This one is mine.
Raven Arms
Model P-25
Cal. .25 Auto.
Made in Industry Calf.
USA
Brad Fitzpatrick
Guns and Ammo May 7, 2024
The first dedicated carry gun I ever shot was my father's Raven .25 ACP, a pint-size pistol made from zinc alloy that sold for under a hundred bucks. It wasn't much for accuracy, and firing the short-barreled .25 was rather like pulling the pin on a hand grenade, but in the days before polymer-frame striker-fired carry pistols became popular it was a suitable — if not ideal — self-defense handgun.
The .25 ACP is one of a long list of handgun cartridges that aren't as popular today as they were in years past. But that doesn't mean there aren't still fans. Firearms chambered in .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .32 H&R Magnum, .357 SIG, and .44 Special are still in use for self-defense, and the cartridges aren't any less potent. The biggest impediment these cartridges faced was a lack of new, modern loads with sophisticated defensive bullets designed to perform in the worst situations.
The .25 ACP cartridge was developed by John Browning and released in 1905. From its inception, the .25 ACP was designed with small, easily concealable "pocket pistols" in mind. Originally, FN produced the Model 1905 chambered in .25 ACP, a design that would later be refined and become the "Baby Browning" that served as the archetypal pocket pistol for years. Accordingly, companies including Colt, Walther, and others offered .25-caliber pocket pistols. In the years following the Gun Control Act of 1968, rules against importation of inexpensive pint-sized .25s prompted folks like George Jennings of Raven Arms to produce small, lightweight .25 ACP pocket pistols domestically.
The .25 ACP was not (and still is not) a powerhouse round, only producing somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 foot-pounds of energy at the muzzle. Still, it was viewed as a step up from rimfires and was diminutive enough to be chambered in very, very small pistols. The knock on the .25 ACP, of course, was that it could not be reliably counted upon to stop a violent attacker, a bad rap that was exacerbated by a shortage of quality self-defense ammunition. But that has changed, and recently Federal began offering a .25 ACP load in its Punch line of self-defense ammo that pushes a 45-grain FMJ bullet at 825 feet per second. The bullet is optimized for maximum penetration, improving the .25 ACP's potential as a personal defense cartridge.
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Not something you would mount a light on. I usually carry a light i use with a weapon not mounted. Never liked pointing a light and a barrel at a possible friendly target.
Beretta Tomcat 32acp. This and any of my 18650 size EDC lights used in combination works for me. One with an end cap switch preferred but not totally necessary. Jmho
Beretta Tomcat 32acp. This and any of my 18650 size EDC lights used in combination works for me. One with an end cap switch preferred but not totally necessary. Jmho
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Would this be the best place within CPF to ask about the possibility of modding a Streamlight TLR7a? I need this particular size and shape light, but would like it to be significantly more powerful with a longer throw…..
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If you need Tannerite to take out a Prius, your aim is off. One good shot to the battery pack and watch the firework show begin.
Just kidding. Please don't send a plume of toxic fumes around a nice shooting range that has a lot of other now angry people with guns by blowing up a Prius. Try shooting something that will not ban you from the shooting range or get your car made into target practice. I prefer paper targets of Putin with a caption of him saying, "Don't shoot. I have gas."
For anyone curious.... .32 H&R Magnum gives the same ballistic performance as a .38 Special (non-+P loads). Not ideal, but if there's ever a localized Emergency, Natural disaster, it's not likely to go flying off the shelves. Best iteration of the Ruger SP101 is actually in that caliber.
Ruger copied the Kel-Tec P32 don't you think?
Yes, but they improved the quality significantly.
What quality problems with the Kel-Tec?
Just a very cheaply produced pistol.
You see a lot of students choosing that for concealed carry. Nothing wrong with that. But I tell them to buy two. One for carry, one for practice at the range. I'm sorry but they do wear out faster than other pistols that compete with that model. Not immediately. But over time, it is an issue. They're clearly built to a price-point.
No argument from me.
People who are income-challenged also need firearm protection. 👍 👍
SCEMan
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I had a Raven .25 auto when they first came out. I shot a few mags through it and quickly sold it. My copy would be most effective thrown at an attacker…
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knucklegary
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I can verify there's more than a few thrown off the SF Bay bridge
How appropriate for a wedding;-)
Ruger copied the P3AT (.380.) So did Taurus with the TCP. Overall quality was better on both of them, and Ruger fixed a trigger reset flaw that entire design was created with. I think Kel-Tec did too, eventually. I really loved my P32 but the different in size between it and an LCP was small enough and .32 is kinda hard to find so I kept the LCP.
