What LED to swap into a single cr123 Weapon Light?

4Pro

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Okay. Mad scientist time.

No boosts, no circuitry, just old school flick the switch and let it eat. Smooth reflector, what would you throw into it as the current led has issues and I'm uncertain as it's not marked.

Good balanced or just a light saber… genuinely curious
 
Most emitters can be had in bins that fairly close in efficiency/output at the current draw a single cr123 can provide, so it kinda comes down to what sort of beam pattern you're looking for. Domeless LED for maximum throw/hotspot intensity, or domed for a larger hotspot and more intensity in the corona for peripheral illumination.

Best throw would be the osram whiteflat 1mm^2 chip, or its variant (forget the name off the top of my head) that has a generally lower forward voltage and similar output. Could use a cree XM-L for the most lumen output, but that will also give you the biggest/lowest intensity beam for a given reflector/optic diameter.

Single cr123 is probably good for 1.5A at turn on to the chip, 2A at the switch with the overhead from a boost driver. Weaponlight market seems to be moving towards higher and higher max intensity ratings, so i'd weight towards using the osram. Open up the design to allow direct drive off an 18350 and you can get much more imoressive output, but likely unregulated. Which is fine for the use case, most pistol lights will be momentary on, or run for a few minutes at a stretch at most. Rifle/carbine lights see longer periods of use, but still the market seems to want max intensity at turn on.
 
Unpopular opinion.... I'd leave such a light alone.
Job of a weapon-mounted light is just too important to be fiddling around with the LED inside. Could easily compromise its reliability.
 
Unpopular opinion.... I'd leave such a light alone.
Job of a weapon-mounted light is just too important to be fiddling around with the LED inside. Could easily compromise its reliability.
This is a good point, but it looks like 4Pro said there is issues with the current emitter.

I agree with John_Galt, an osram emitter makes for great weapon lights. For all of Cloud Defensives faults, they certainly know how to pick an emitter, and that's what they use.

A CSLNM1 would be excellent.
 
Honestly, if the emitter has gotten that unreliable, I'd just bite the bullet and get a new weapon-light with a proven track record for reliability. There have been certain parts I've had to replace on my car over the last nearly 20 years. Could have gone with an inexpensive fix, but decided the part was too important and just went with a quality (and pricey) replacement. Works out better in the long run.
 
More backstory, it's a clone unit. Came with a poop LED.

Currently looking at the sft-25R and a 18350 cell as it appears the light body was made for that. I'm not on a SEAL team and whilst I appreciate the input, this will specifically be for fun, content etc. I've even considered making it dedicated IR.
 
More backstory, it's a clone unit. Came with a poop LED.

Currently looking at the sft-25R and a 18350 cell as it appears the light body was made for that. I'm not on a SEAL team and whilst I appreciate the input, this will specifically be for fun, content etc. I've even considered making it dedicated IR.
If this is a clone, then maybe there is a problem with the diode due to poor heat dissipation from the diode? I recently came across a very-very-very cheap clone of a very-very cheap Chinese flashlight. The diode was sitting on a piece of textolite suspended in the air. Power supply 3*AAA in series. Died after 15 minutes of work from the included AAA saline batteries from overheating of the LED
 
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