What lights are on your radar in {2024}?

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So are the Olight batteries non removable? It is really hard to get an answer.
I am seriously considering the Arkfeld Pro 1300lu flat flashlight with the laser and UV all in one light.
It looks like a lot of fun. And it's a very different animal. Anyone have one ?
 

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Olight,Fenix,Malkoff. Still deciding.
On the Olight specifically the Baton series. What do you mean proprietary batteries? If it uses for example a 18650 can't you use any 18650? The batteries are removable or are they not?
Proprietary batteries can mean a couple of things. Sometimes it refers to a fuel cell that is capable of super duper high drain to actually achieve the ridiculous output claimed. Other times it's like a special shaped battery in order to fit in a given product be it flashlight, SLR camera or a cellular phone etc.

I have a light made by Rofus that claimed it could put out 700 lumens using "their" proprietary 1aa sized battery. It probably will but it puts out all of the light I need from a regular AA battery.

Hopefully that helps answer the question.

If you seek a fairly reliable, fairly bright light Fenix is a good value (think Orient watch). For cutting edge tech with at times questionable reliability the Olight brand is ok. (Think Invicta). For the most durable product but not cutting edge output the Malkoff is the way to go. (Think Seiko or Citizen).

Another way to look at it. If you want to light up the side of a mountain Olight and Fenix. If you drop said flashlight off the side of a mountain and it rolls to the bottom into a river, the Malkoff is the one to have.
 
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Some answers thanks. My concern is you are stuck with a battery that when it's kaput the light is done. I suppose like IPhone over a few years the battery won't hold the best charge and it can be replaced by a pro tearing the phone apart
 

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What do you mean proprietary batteries? If it uses for example a 18650 can't you use any 18650?
No. If a battery is referred to as "Proprietary," doesn't matter if it's also an 18650 or a 21700. If you want your specific model of flashlight from brand X to work, you have to use the specific 18650 or 21700 battery that brand X made for that specific model. Any old generic battery from any brand that is the same size, yeah; those won't work in that specific flashlight.
The batteries are removable or are they not?
Depends on the flashlight model. For example, on my Nitecore P10iX, the battery is proprietary. But, I can remove it from the flashlight if the battery gets deleted after use. If I only have that one proprietary battery, I can toss it on an external charger and wait.... or, if I bought a 2nd proprietary battery separately; I can just swap the depleted one for the fresh one and immediately go back to using my P10iX. Many years from now, if that battery gets discontinued by Nitecore, I'm screwed! Eventually my proprietary batteries will get old, won't be able to hold a charge. And then my P10iX becomes a really ugly but interesting light-weight Paper-weight. (You also have the option of charging the battery directly from the flashlight with a charging cable.)

But that's far better than having a light with a Captive Proprietary battery. Not only is the battery proprietary, but it is completely, physically sealed inside the flashlight. For example, the Nitecore EDC 33 model. (No, I don't own that one.) With something like that, you can't buy an extra proprietary battery. So, if your light dies on you during an Emergency, you have two options. Pull out another light with fully charged batteries in it, and use that one. Or, very politely ask the Emergency for a Time-Out! Go, charge up the flashlight for however many hours you need to. Come back, then let the Emergency know that it can resume whatever it was doing before your light died on you. Be sure to ask politely though. Good manners are important.

Yeah, I despise lights that have Captive Proprietary batteries inside of them. Personally speaking, I think this is an idiotic concept. And, I'm disgusted that it exists in the industry. Also, even if you never encounter an Emergency situation where the battery in your light shuts off because it doesn't have enough juice; one guess what's going to happen if that captive battery malfunctions.... Time to buy a new flashlight! Or, when the battery gets old and can no longer hold a charge. Won't even matter if brand X still makes that model. There's literally no way to swap in a new Proprietary battery into your light. You'll be stuck still having to buy a new light.

The lifespan is even more horrendously worse than a light that just has a Proprietary battery. At least there, you can buy extra Proprietary batteries soon after having bought the light, and expand its lifespan longer. The only nice thing is that with a Captive Proprietary battery, you don't need an external charger since you have to charge up the light directly.
 

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. Or, very politely ask the Emergency for a Time-Out! Go, charge up the flashlight for however many hours you need to. Come back, then let the Emergency know that it can resume whatever it was doing before your light died on you. Be sure to ask politely though. Good manners are important.
Sound advice lol. For real though this is why you keep an old MagLite or Streamlight Scorpion around along with some spare bulbs and a bunch of batteries. Like a .30 cal ammo can full of them.
 

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Sound advice lol. For real though this is why you keep an old MagLite or Streamlight Scorpion around along with some spare bulbs and a bunch of batteries. Like a .30 cal ammo can full of them.
It's also why I always have 3 lights on me, and one larger one in my Work-bag.
 

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So are the Olight batteries non removable? It is really hard to get an answer.
I am seriously considering the Arkfeld Pro 1300lu flat flashlight with the laser and UV all in one light.
It looks like a lot of fun. And it's a very different animal. Anyone have one ?
Arkfield batteries are not replaceable. Olight 18650 and 21700 batteries are replaceable in the lights that use them but only with another Olight proprietary battery.
 

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Well like the iphone is the Arkfeld with i assume is the captive battery. I have 6 year old iphone (7) even a 6 and they still charge and though they don't hold the charge like they used to they still hold. But you kinda wanna a light to last longer than 5 years. I have initiated a Arkfeld launch and radar says it will arrive tomorrow. If i get 5 years out of an $80 light i'm good.
 
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Olight has a lifetime warranty on their lights if purchased after Jan 2023. That includes the sealed batteries inside the Arkfeld Pro. This is an excerpt from their warranty page: "If you purchased an Olight® product from the USA after January 1st, 2023, the local service centers will honor your LIFETIME WARRANTY for your purchase. If your Olight product (including its structure, built-in battery, LED, or lens) ever experiences any issues, we promise to take care of it."
 

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Depends on the flashlight model. For example, on my Nitecore P10iX, the battery is proprietary. But, I can remove it from the flashlight if the battery gets deleted after use. If I only have that one proprietary battery, I can toss it on an external charger and wait.... or, if I bought a 2nd proprietary battery separately; I can just swap the depleted one for the fresh one and immediately go back to using my P10iX. Many years from now, if that battery gets discontinued by Nitecore, I'm screwed! Eventually my proprietary batteries will get old, won't be able to hold a charge. And then my P10iX becomes a really ugly but interesting light-weight Paper-weight. (You also have the option of charging the battery directly from the flashlight with a charging cable.)

P10IX can run on Cr123a batteries. So if they ever quit making the special battery it won't become a paper weight.
 

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I don't really have any lights on my wishlist at the moment for 2024. I'm pretty good with the lights I have, since I bought my Nitecore LA10 CRI (when did I get that? a couple of months ago? over the holidays?).

I have my Fenix PD36 TAC for my bicycle supplementary headlamp that can double as a Very Bright Light, should I need one. It's not perfect, but it's good enough for now.
I have my Nitecore EC11 for my EDC in my handbag. It's also not perfect, but it's also good enough for now.
I have my Fenix E12 v2.0 handheld and HM23 headlamp, and my Nitecore LA10 CRI lantern, for camping.
I have my old EDC, the Nite-Ize Inova X1 I never really liked, in the pen cup on my kitchen table for use around the house.

I have all my other old flashlights I don't use anymore, including my even older EDC, my Leatherman Serac S3, which is still a fine light (if I could buy CR123As at a reasonable price), plus an Olight i3 AAA and a Nitecore keychain light that I got as freebies from B&H Photo when I ordered my two Nitecores, which are both still in the package waiting for me to fob them off on an unsuspecting friend.

Maybe I'll get another Cat Eye bicycle light. I kind of like the Auto Rapid 3 tail light I have. But, they are kind of expensive for what they are.
 

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Three months later, I have decided I really do want to keep a dedicated tactical flashlight in the house kept by my bed in case of emergencies at night, but I am conflicted on which direction to go.

I want a tactical light that will use the same battery as the light I use on my bicycle, and I want them to both use the same UI. My plan is to have two lights and three batteries. My tactical light will be a small head type for wider dispersion, and my bicycle light will be a larger head version for narrower dispersion.

I currently have a Fenix PD36 TAC on my bicycle. If I get the Fenix TK22 TAC to replace that, the PD36 TAC would become my tactical light.

But, I also am somewhat fascinated with the idea of the Nitecore P10iX tactical floodlight. There are two problems I see. First, I don't know about the user interface. Second, I'd have to buy into the Nitecore iSeries battery, which means instead of buying just one light, I'd need to buy two, most likely the P23i (replaces the P20i), or maybe the P20iUV, for my bicycle and utility use. And then my PD36 TAC would be disused, because I'd really have no need for it, at that point.

I'm sure I'll like the TK22 TAC, since I love my PD36 TAC. I'm afraid if I buy the P10iX I might hate the UI for tactical purposes. But, if I find the UI useable, I think there's a lot of merit to the 4-emitter/flood reflector setup for close range tactical use. I also like the idea of the extra UV emitters in the P20iUV.

The idea here behind the three batteries and two lights, one tactical, one utility, is that the tactical one would be mostly unused, the utility light would be frequently used. So, each time the battery in my utility light gets low, the battery on the charger goes into the tactical light, the battery from the tactical light goes into the utility light, and the battery from the utility light goes one the charger.

That way, in the event I ever need to use the tactical light, it should always have a more or less full charge for maximum brightness and runtime, and my batteries will always get rotated.

So, I guess, the lights currently on my radar are the Nitecore P10iX, P23i, and P20iUV, and the Fenix TK22 TAC. Obviously, sticking with Fenix is the cheapest option.
 

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I have the P10iX.
Realize you are getting a massive wall of light directly in front of you. If you remotely need throw, even for a short distance, it's a horrendously bad choice for that.
 

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I have the P10iX.
Realize you are getting a massive wall of light directly in front of you. If you remotely need throw, even for a short distance, it's a horrendously bad choice for that.

The use case scenario is the interior of my home, to illuminate, blind, and disorient an intruder. The maximum distance I would need to light up would be about 7 yards, but realistically, the distances involved would usually be substantially shorter.
 

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The use case scenario is the interior of my home, to illuminate, blind, and disorient an intruder. The maximum distance I would need to light up would be about 7 yards, but realistically, the distances involved would usually be substantially shorter.
In that case, a very good choice. But realize that realistically, you're going to blind him for one actual second. After that, if he doesn't immediately bolt out of your home, you'll have to follow up with either a blast of pepperspray from a smaller fire-extinguisher sized canister or a different type of "blast."
 
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