PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
Sub_Umbra said:
Oh good grief. D.I.Y. is truly becoming a lost art...
What things are you surprised people DON'T have?
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Oh good grief. D.I.Y. is truly becoming a lost art...
Too many people don't seem to have to ability to think for themselves. They watch the party line propaganda on the TV news broadcasts and just buy into like it's undisputed fact. It doesn't occur to them to question anything, or look at other sources of information. It boggles my mind how the average American is so manipulated by the mass media.
Navck
Enlightened
Lightmeup said:
Brain
Intelligence
Common Sense
Many people are missing all three of those.
cbxer55
Enlightened
Planterz said:
Very Good! In that vein we can add, takiing responsibility for their own actions, rather than enpowering lawyers.
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PhotonWrangler
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cbxer55 said:
Amen to that one, Robert!
Things I see that people don't have (sorry for some repeats):
Courtesy & common sense for sure.
A thirst for knowledge, or even plain ol' curiosity.
The desire to read, just for pleasure.
The ability to see and understand anything except either "black or white."
The ability to do what they are told.
The ability to question what they're told.
An understanding of what propoganda is all about (it's not just a political thing, btw).
Restraint.
Moderation (not always the same thing).
The ability to forgive and to (at least sometimes) forget.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion.
Perseverance.
The ability to control their temper.
A sincere smile.
A sense of humor that doesn't come at someone else's expense.
A basic sense of right and wrong and the willingness to always do something (or not) based on that.
It seems to boil down to people not understanding that The Golden Rule, "Doing Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You," does not mean something you'd find an X-rated websiteoo: .
Courtesy & common sense for sure.
A thirst for knowledge, or even plain ol' curiosity.
The desire to read, just for pleasure.
The ability to see and understand anything except either "black or white."
The ability to do what they are told.
The ability to question what they're told.
An understanding of what propoganda is all about (it's not just a political thing, btw).
Restraint.
Moderation (not always the same thing).
The ability to forgive and to (at least sometimes) forget.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion.
Perseverance.
The ability to control their temper.
A sincere smile.
A sense of humor that doesn't come at someone else's expense.
A basic sense of right and wrong and the willingness to always do something (or not) based on that.
It seems to boil down to people not understanding that The Golden Rule, "Doing Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You," does not mean something you'd find an X-rated website
oo: .
KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Actually, all I ask for from this world is just a sense of integrity.
As I mentioned once, I do not believe in discipline. To me, discipline is a word that has grown profoundly negative connotations thanks to it being continually used as an excuse to whack people. It's more vulgar than the four letter word to me.
So, as one would logically ask, without that, why hasn't my life run amok?
Ahh..
That's because I believe in integrity. To me, discipline is what makes you do the right thing when other people are watching with the stick and if you don't do it, you get whacked. INTEGRITY is what makes you do the right thing when NOBODY is watching. Been tempted to sell out? Been tempted to do it when "you'll never get caught"? Yes, I have been tempted - integrity is the reason I walk away and say "No, this is not the right thing to do and I will not do it". For a real-life example see the littering thread. You're miles from civilization. There's nobody but the animals watching, or maybe even the animals aren't watching. Watcha gonna do with the coke bottle or plastic bag? You can bet I'll fold it up nicely and put it back in my pocket or bag till I get back and find a bin.
It is a far more powerful driving force because it comes from within. Others may call it by different names, but this is what I call it. For there will be many moments in your life when nobody will be watching. Will you do the right thing? To me, integrity is a cornerstone and a foundation.
Unfortunately for too many others, they have gone out of their way to prove to me that once again, this is too much to ask for.
As I mentioned once, I do not believe in discipline. To me, discipline is a word that has grown profoundly negative connotations thanks to it being continually used as an excuse to whack people. It's more vulgar than the four letter word to me.
So, as one would logically ask, without that, why hasn't my life run amok?
Ahh..
That's because I believe in integrity. To me, discipline is what makes you do the right thing when other people are watching with the stick and if you don't do it, you get whacked. INTEGRITY is what makes you do the right thing when NOBODY is watching. Been tempted to sell out? Been tempted to do it when "you'll never get caught"? Yes, I have been tempted - integrity is the reason I walk away and say "No, this is not the right thing to do and I will not do it". For a real-life example see the littering thread. You're miles from civilization. There's nobody but the animals watching, or maybe even the animals aren't watching. Watcha gonna do with the coke bottle or plastic bag? You can bet I'll fold it up nicely and put it back in my pocket or bag till I get back and find a bin.
It is a far more powerful driving force because it comes from within. Others may call it by different names, but this is what I call it. For there will be many moments in your life when nobody will be watching. Will you do the right thing? To me, integrity is a cornerstone and a foundation.
Unfortunately for too many others, they have gone out of their way to prove to me that once again, this is too much to ask for.
The_LED_Museum
*Retired*
When I grew up, I got spankens with the bare hand, with a belt, and with a pancake turner; and I think I turned out at least alright.
Though often times, when I hear the word "discipline", I immediately think of "a spanken" and nothing more.
Even though that word means so much more.
What I think many people are missing has been well-covered here already, but here goes anyway:
o Self-spanken - er - uh - self discipline.
o An appreciation for the little things - not a SureFire 10X Dominator or a Benchmade knife.
o The ability to see and understand anything except "black & white".'
o The ability to do what they are told.
o The ability to question what they're told.
o A cigerette lighter - even if they do not use tobacco.
o A flashlight that *WORKS* - this need not be an expensive flashlight either.
o Batteries.
o A battery tester or a DMM.
o Common hand tools, like phillips & standard screwdrivers, pliers, wire nips, etc.
Though often times, when I hear the word "discipline", I immediately think of "a spanken" and nothing more.
Even though that word means so much more.
What I think many people are missing has been well-covered here already, but here goes anyway:
o Self-spanken - er - uh - self discipline.
o An appreciation for the little things - not a SureFire 10X Dominator or a Benchmade knife.
o The ability to see and understand anything except "black & white".'
o The ability to do what they are told.
o The ability to question what they're told.
o A cigerette lighter - even if they do not use tobacco.
o A flashlight that *WORKS* - this need not be an expensive flashlight either.
o Batteries.
o A battery tester or a DMM.
o Common hand tools, like phillips & standard screwdrivers, pliers, wire nips, etc.
TedTheLed
Flashlight Enthusiast
more love and respect for TedTheLed.
tattoou2
Enlightened
soap
Illum
Flashaholic
A good set of eyeglass screwdrivers...
Fire extinguishers
instant coffee
Fire extinguishers
instant coffee
jayflash
Flashlight Enthusiast
Their headlights on ALL the time.
Some more...
A gentleman always carries: a watch, a handkerchief, a comb, and a pocket knife. Ain't many gentlemen around these days by at least 50% of that definition.
Once upon a time, one of my brother in laws cut his hand. I pulled a Band Aid out of my wallet. He was amazed I had one. His brother said that all real men carry Band Aids in their wallet. Brother in law with cut hand said he doesn't have any. Other brother points at him and says, "See what I mean!?!" He should have seen that one coming from a mile away.
Decent extension cords, in good condition, and rated for the job. "Naw, don't need one. I taped together a few 99 cent ones from MallWart and that's good enough for... ZZZZZAAAAAPPPP, FLASH, BOOM"
A fully inflated, regular sized spare tire -- I hate Silly Spares/Doughnuts!
Spare fuses and bulbs for the car. "I only got one headlight, but bygawd, it's a hi-beam!"
Umbrellas.
Kitchen knives that are sharp. Most folks have knives that wouldn't cut a fart.
Decent maps in the car. Not the AAA-type ones, that show only the interstates, but ones that show every goat path in the area.
A phone book. I have several neighbors who toss them out and then come to my house to find one.
A fuel can that doesn't leak.
Clean hands. You don't wanna know, trust me. Well, OK, here goes since you've been warned -- once saw a nice, well dressed, young, Yuppie couple walk through our produce department, looking for just the right fruit and vegetables... as she was picking her nose. Now you know why it's suggested that you wash all your produce when you bring it home.
An "off" button on the cell phone, television, and videogame.
A good chew toy for the dog. Cheap amusement for all envolved.
A voter registration card. Again, cheap (or maybe not) amusement for all envolved.
A gentleman always carries: a watch, a handkerchief, a comb, and a pocket knife. Ain't many gentlemen around these days by at least 50% of that definition.
Once upon a time, one of my brother in laws cut his hand. I pulled a Band Aid out of my wallet. He was amazed I had one. His brother said that all real men carry Band Aids in their wallet. Brother in law with cut hand said he doesn't have any. Other brother points at him and says, "See what I mean!?!" He should have seen that one coming from a mile away.
Decent extension cords, in good condition, and rated for the job. "Naw, don't need one. I taped together a few 99 cent ones from MallWart and that's good enough for... ZZZZZAAAAAPPPP, FLASH, BOOM"
A fully inflated, regular sized spare tire -- I hate Silly Spares/Doughnuts!
Spare fuses and bulbs for the car. "I only got one headlight, but bygawd, it's a hi-beam!"
Umbrellas.
Kitchen knives that are sharp. Most folks have knives that wouldn't cut a fart.
Decent maps in the car. Not the AAA-type ones, that show only the interstates, but ones that show every goat path in the area.
A phone book. I have several neighbors who toss them out and then come to my house to find one.
A fuel can that doesn't leak.
Clean hands. You don't wanna know, trust me. Well, OK, here goes since you've been warned -- once saw a nice, well dressed, young, Yuppie couple walk through our produce department, looking for just the right fruit and vegetables... as she was picking her nose. Now you know why it's suggested that you wash all your produce when you bring it home.
An "off" button on the cell phone, television, and videogame.
A good chew toy for the dog. Cheap amusement for all envolved.
A voter registration card. Again, cheap (or maybe not) amusement for all envolved.
PhotonWrangler
Flashaholic
chmsam said:
:laughing: oH, i'VE never BEEN guilty of that... naw...
Grox
Flashlight Enthusiast
I agree with just about everything that has been said in this thread.
My every day carry consists of a leatherman multitool, lighter (note that I do not smoke), 2 pens, pocket knife (CR sebenza), wallet with bandaids inside, and of course Arc AAA-P with keys and my XR60 on belt.
I don't carry a handkerchief (I am a tissue person) and I don't carry a comb (my hair doesn't need it). So I fail by chmsam's defenition of gentleman I am afraid. I will say that if I do go to a formal event I will carry a handkerchief and comb though.
One thing that I find that a lot people don't know much about is car maitenence/car anatomy. Laughable really! Cars are great for keeping spare stuff (why not keep car bulbs/fuses in your car?), including combs, razors, umbrellas, etc. I wouldn't keep high value goods in my car unattended though.
My every day carry consists of a leatherman multitool, lighter (note that I do not smoke), 2 pens, pocket knife (CR sebenza), wallet with bandaids inside, and of course Arc AAA-P with keys and my XR60 on belt.
I don't carry a handkerchief (I am a tissue person) and I don't carry a comb (my hair doesn't need it). So I fail by chmsam's defenition of gentleman I am afraid. I will say that if I do go to a formal event I will carry a handkerchief and comb though.
One thing that I find that a lot people don't know much about is car maitenence/car anatomy. Laughable really! Cars are great for keeping spare stuff (why not keep car bulbs/fuses in your car?), including combs, razors, umbrellas, etc. I wouldn't keep high value goods in my car unattended though.
Handlobraesing
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People who show up to take an exam and not bring a pencil or two.
JonSidneyB
Flashlight Enthusiast
Honesty, Morals.
Longbow
Enlightened
A good 6" ice pick with a sheath.
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DoubleDutch
Enlightened
So, there are quite some material and immaterial needs to fulfil.
I agree with most of the immaterial ones. Coming from Europe, it's surprising to see the similarities. So either American and European societies don't differ all that much, or CPF attracts the kind of people that has a certain set of ideas, regardless of boundaries.
I myself was never severly spanked, but my parents would pinch me real good if I disbehaved in public. And there was the occasional slap on the buttocks.
Also they could stare you down with what we called the "yard face": my grandfather was a school principal, and ended all disturbances in his school yard with one threatening glare. My mother inherited it, LOL.
Kees
I agree with most of the immaterial ones. Coming from Europe, it's surprising to see the similarities. So either American and European societies don't differ all that much, or CPF attracts the kind of people that has a certain set of ideas, regardless of boundaries.
I myself was never severly spanked, but my parents would pinch me real good if I disbehaved in public. And there was the occasional slap on the buttocks.
Also they could stare you down with what we called the "yard face": my grandfather was a school principal, and ended all disturbances in his school yard with one threatening glare. My mother inherited it, LOL.
Kees
Longbow said:
Does that go along with the pool cue in a case under your jacket?
