What's the brightest possible Minimag mod?

paulr

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What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

After following the USL and Mag85 sagas I thought I'd throw this out as a challenge. How bright a light can you make out of a standard 2AA Minimag host? It can be LED or incandescent. You can use whatever you want for batteries. You can mod the body and internal parts in any way you want but the end result has to still be basically recognizeable as a Minimag (it doesn't have to look unmodified) and can't be much larger than a stock Minimag (e.g. you can add something like a Kroll switch if you want, but don't add six D cells).

Operating constraints: the light must not self-destruct (such as by melting internal parts) if you leave it on too long. And, you must be able to get at least 7 minutes of continuous runtime before noticable dimming sets in (matching the runtime of the USL) for the "impractical" category. Another "practical" category should have 30 minutes minimum continuous runtime before noticable dimming (this begins to be useful as an EDC).

One obvious approach: somehow modify the bulb holder to take a Stinger/Strion bulb and use three CBP 2/3AA 750 mAH cells. You can take care of lens heating issues with Borofloat, but will the internal plastic parts survive? Also, that bulb is bigger than a standard Minimag bulb so the reflector might not focus it very well (especially since you'd have to drill out the reflector to make the hole bigger).

Another idea is use the tiny bi-pin lamp from a PT Rage, with four 1/2AA NiMH cells. That's easiest if you can get the lamps some way other than unsoldering them from Rage assemblies, since the lamp leads in the assemblies have been cut very short, so you'd have to attach new leads.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

You can go even further with ceramic bulb socket, boro lens, aluminum reflector, 2x14500 Li-ion and CL1499
 
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Hmm. Where do you get all those parts (Al reflector and ceramic bulb socket in particular)? CL1499 is interesting, I'd been wonder what bulb to use for 2x li ion. I guess I should have also thought of the Streamlight TL3 bulb. Not sure how the 1499 compares.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

I don't know if you saw my similar thread about this:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=932219&page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

The stock reflector does melt even with the Stinger bulb.

The CL1499 is an excellent bulb, it is much brighter than the TL3. I'm using it in a Polystinger with HP head and runs it on two Pila 168A using Fivemega's adapter. This is my favourite light, and I find it to have the best compromise between runtime, size, weight, brightness and throw of all the lights that I know of. I cannot describe how much I love this light.
As backup light I'm using a Stinger with TL3 bulb (and the same battery setup). Also a great light, but the throw of the CL1499 setup just makes it look pale in comparison.

Sigbjoern
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

The 'bowtie' of the CL1499 had me pulling it out the moment I saw it.

Jeff
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

Didn't someone stick a LuxV in a MM with two lithium ions, direct drive?
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

I understand that you are seeking the "brightest" setup that can be put into a mini mag, but considering the levels of performance that we are getting out of Luxeon IIIs, I think that question or answer must be qualified. Are you looking for total lumens output, or the brightest, useable beam possible?

Of course, this is a bit subjective, but still relavant. I think that the brightest practical mod that I've seen in a mini mag was one I did a while back that included the use of a McR20 reflector and a sandwiche made out of a downboy1000 with a T bin Lux III being fed by two 3v AA cells. I went with that setup because it's tough, if at all possible, to get that kind of current out of 1.5v AA cells.
 
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xpitxbullx said:
The 'bowtie' of the CL1499 had me pulling it out the moment I saw it.

Jeff

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Yes, it is no round Surefire beam, but in the HP head it produces a lot nicer beam than the TL3 (without HP head) and it also has a lot nicer beam than anything I get with a Mag mod with smooth reflector (I has not used axial filament bulbs yet). But it required some work to center the bulb to get the beam nice.

In practical use I find it more important that the beam doesn't have dark spots than it is perfectly round. Also considering how our vision works, an oblong beam is not bad at all. If you need to ask why, then just think of why widescreen TVs were made.

Sigbjoern
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

That would do it! An X3T Lux V DD and two 14500s.

Actually Lumileds has some red-orange leds that cost about $10 each and put out 190 lumens available now. This would indeed be bright although it wouldn't be white.

I don't know if it's been tried yet, but a 9V Pila xenon lamp assembly might fit if ground down and driven by two 14500s or 3 2/3AA cells. The assembly is only about $25 from J.S. Burly's.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest possible Minimag mod?

I was thinking about putting a 35w d2s in one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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