where to buy cheap good LSD batteries in europe?

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does anyone know any website, ebay seller, etc that sells good priced LSD batteries to europe? I'm not even considering eneloop since it's insanely expensive. I will need about 12x AA and 12x AAA but when I look at prices I've an heart attack.
what's a good cheap brand of LSD batteries? can please someone point me on the right direction?
 
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Also, if you have an Ikea store nearby, check out their Ladda batteries (make sure they are the silver and green ones that say something like Ready To Use on the packaging).

I have some and have tested their shelf life, and they LSD, but not as good as Eneloops. They are mentioned here http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?387711-Ikea-Ladda-(AA)-Accelerated-Cycle-Testing. I also have the Aldi ready to use rechargeables but find that they are not as long lasting as the Ikea version.

In Australia, the Ikea ones are significantly cheaper than Eneloops (around $1.50/cell, vs Eneloops which can go for around $2.50/cell on sale to over $5.50/cell)
 
keithy said:
Also, if you have an Ikea store nearby, check out their Ladda batteries (make sure they are the silver and green ones that say something like Ready To Use on the packaging).

I have some and have tested their shelf life, and they LSD, but not as good as Eneloops. They are mentioned here http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?387711-Ikea-Ladda-(AA)-Accelerated-Cycle-Testing. I also have the Aldi ready to use rechargeables but find that they are not as long lasting as the Ikea version.

In Australia, the Ikea ones are significantly cheaper than Eneloops (around $1.50/cell, vs Eneloops which can go for around $2.50/cell on sale to over $5.50/cell)
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I've ikea and Aldi nearby. i was wondering about if it's worth it to buy eneloop in the long term even if they are more expensive because they would last more time. but apparently it's not true according to your tests, thank you very much to point out the topic and for the op too. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?391756-Eneloop-XX-Vs-Turnigy-2400-Cycle-Testing--
They appear to hold a bit more charge but they don't last as long and they are way more expensive. IKEA it is! I'll check aldi too. btw it's 1,25€ per cell AA here.
 
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I use to buy the tronic brand nimh lsd battery`s from lidl for £2.99 for 4xAAA or 4xAA 2300mah , they also sell 9v C and D when they get them in, but the last couple of times they had battery`s they were just the standard nimh, not the lsd version.

John.
 
TinderBox (UK) said:
I use to buy the tronic brand nimh lsd battery`s from lidl for £2.99 for 4xAAA or 4xAA 2300mah , they also sell 9v C and D when they get them in, but the last couple of times they had battery`s they were just the standard nimh, not the lsd version.

John.
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I had tronic non LSD, never saw LSD. I didn't liked them. but tbh I didn't took good care of them.
are these the ikea ones you talk about? http://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/catalog/products/00240585/
 
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are these the ikea ones you talk about? http://www.ikea.com/pt/pt/catalog/products/00240585/
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Yes, make sure you buy the silver and green colour ones. The older Ladda batteries were all green, and are not LSD. The silver and green Ladda batteries are LSD.

I can't find my data on my tests. I did simple discharge tests after 1 month, 3 months, and 6 month with my Maha C9000. If I remember correctly, after 1 month my AAs were averaging around 80%.

HKJ has also reviewed them:

http://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/Ladda%20AA%202000mAh%20(Green-Silver)%20UK.html
 
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but apparently it's not true according to your tests, thank you very much to point out the topic and for the op too. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?391756-Eneloop-XX-Vs-Turnigy-2400-Cycle-Testing--
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Remember that test is for the Eneloop XX, which has a lower recharge cycle, than the standard Eneloops.

Mark's cycle testing on the normal Eneloops is this thread http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...nese-Vs-Chinese-Eneloop-Cycle-Testing-Results

In Australia, we only get the newer Chinese Eneloops now, and they are not as good as the older Japanese Eneloops.
 
pricewise eneloops make no sense. for the price you can buy more Laddas and retain a lot more charging cycles and capacity.
worst case scenario for Laddas 350cycles retaining 1200mah. best case scenario for eneloop 500cyles retaining 1200mah. Laddas are 1.25€ per battery which is 0.0035714285714286€ per cycle. Eneloop bet I could find with lot of effort and not even the best ones are 2.5€ per battery which is 0.005 per cycle.
That's a difference of 0.00142857142857142857142857142857€ per cycle. considering 500 cycles for 16 batteries that's a saving of about 11.5€ and that's the very best case scenario. numbers should be much better for Laddas. moreover the initial investment is half price.

I might find an even cheaper promotion for Tronic Energy Eco LSD. any comparison test to other batteries?
 
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You really should compare against the regular Eneloops, which have 4x the number of cycles, extremely low self-discharge, very long shelf life, and cost about half what the Eneloop Pros cost.

You can buy cheaper batteries, if you don't plan on cycling them much, won't use them in very high-drain devices, and only need them to last a few years. But if you have demanding applications for them, Eneloops will be more cost-effective over the long term.
 
cheapest eneloop I can find are 2.5€ each. makes no sense to me. the Ikea ones are already good and I might buy those but it seems the TRONIC ECO 2300mah LSD are the way to go. I might be able to find them for 1€ each. that's impossible to beat.
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source: David70 from forolinternas

they have about 14% less performance than the BEST ones but I can buy more than TWICE as much for the same price. it's unbeatable.

thank you very much to all. ikea ladas or tronics it is then.
 
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Has anybody tested the lsd claims of non-eneloop nimh battery`s , as i always keep my battery`s fully charged, but after a couple of months my battery tester shows them at 40% or 60% when they have just being sitting in the draw unused.

I have not done any tests since my C9000 became faulty.

John.
 
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Has anybody tested the lsd claims of non-eneloop nimh battery`s , as i always keep my battery`s fully charged, but after a couple of months my battery tester shows them at 40% or 60% when they have just being sitting in the draw unused.
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It obviously varies widely, but those sound like non-LSD high capacity batteries. If they claim to be LSD, then they're lying.
 
lidl says they will have tronic eco 2300mah for 3.19€ for a pack of 4 in some months. that's 0.80€ each! I think I will never buy another brand in my life.
 
no wonder they got out of stock with such a great performance for such a low price. I'll buy a ton of them next time I get my eyes on them. fu eneloop lol :| sure they are better but the price... Oo
tyvm all for the help. really great forum and users <3
 
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lidl says they will have tronic eco 2300mah for 3.19€ for a pack of 4 in some months. that's 0.80€ each! I think I will never buy another brand in my life.
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That's pretty good. I have a Bulgarian page on my bookmarks, and he has tested the 2100mAh Tronic Eco battery in 2012, and he reported after 1 month 9% self discharge: http://anrieff.net/batterytest/details/NiMH_AA/Tronic-EnergyEco-en.html

We don't have Lidl in Australia yet, but there are some rumblings about them opening up soon.
 
I did an capacity test on 4x of my 2 year old Tronic Eco AA 2300mah battery`s using my IC8800/BC900 , I used the Test mode, with 1000ma charge, 500ma discharge.

I got, 2370ma, 2270ma, 2350ma, 2300ma , not bad for 2 year old batterys

John.
 
Just got some of the 7dayshop 2150 batteries and seeing as I couldn't find much in the way of tests I had a go myself using a C9000.

They came out at 1399/1398/1428/1393 mAh after an initial discharge
The capacity at the end of a "Refresh and analyse" cycle: 2209/2208/2212/2225 mAh
Manufacturing date is
"2015/
02/04"
literally written like that. So I don't know if it means 2015-02-04 (Feb) or 2015: 02/04 (Apr in UK terms). But anyway out of the box they had about 64% charge left. Not exactly "good to go" except in a pinch. But anyone with a C9000 is probably going to do a break-in before using them anyway (I did R&A so I could find out what the capacities are without waiting something like 50 hours)

If they had a full charge when they were first manufactured (surely if marketed as "good to go" they would be?) then that suggests they're nowhere near as good as Eneloops when it comes to keeping their charge over time, which keep like 85% over a year. However I think most non-LSD NiMH batteries would've been dead by now. So sort of a compromise, and a good enough one for me for most uses considering they're half the price of Eneloops.

They're also of a higher capacity than stated. I love it when manufacturers are honest and specify minimum instead of "up to".

Like most people I can't really do a proper 1 year test as I want to actually use them.
 
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