Where to buy true 50w HID bulbs?

[lotsalumens]

Can anyone suggest a source for true 50w HID bulbs? I gather from the information posted in these forums that they should be brighter with a 50w ballast than an overdriven 35w bulb.

Thanks very much for any info!

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[cheesehead]

I don't think there are any. HIDs are made for cars and are all 35 watt.

 

[lotsalumens]

Ah but indeed they do make a 50w bulb and it's called the MPXL-DL50. Here is a site that has the Philips spec sheet on it:

http://www.nuconverter.de/assets/2/mpxldl50.jpg

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[MaxaBaker]

I believe markdi just got one and plans on modding it into a Thor.

 

[lotsalumens]

He did but there's been no word where he got it. I see them listed on atlantalightbulbs.com but they want $390 each which is absolutely insane. I am modding a couple of Thors myself and with what I have invested in ballasts I figure I should get the right bulbs.


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[cheesehead]

If indeed it's a true 50 watt HID, then why does its life go down and color temp also change with respect to the 35 watt HID??? Sounds very very suspect to me. Sounds very characteristic of a 35 watt bulb being overdriven to 50 watts.

 

[cheesehead]

If indeed it's a true 50 watt HID, then why does its life go down and color temp also change with respect to the 35 watt HID??? Sounds very very suspect to me. Sounds very characteristic of a 35 watt bulb being overdriven to 50 watts /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. Eh, I don't know.

 

[lotsalumens]

Hmmm...excellent observation! I originally heard of this type of bulb through this forum. Folks said they had a higher lumen output at 50w than an overdriven 35w bulb, but perhaps it's basiclaly the same bulb (??)


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[lotsalumens]

I just emailed a supplier who has some, but candidly wrote me back that although the 50w bulbs are twice the price the ouptut is only about 2% brighter than an overdriven 35w bulb. Doesn't sound like they are really worth it.

 

[cheesehead]

Thanks for the updates. Although I still hope there will be a 100 watt HID soon, that would be great. If they indeed are making a 50 watt HIDs, then a 100 watt HID can't be that far off.

 

[lotsalumens]

Well if you want more power how about something like this? It's a 150w Osram HSD bulb. With the right power supply (it takes 97v) you could make a killer spotlight. There is a whole world of HID lamps outside of the automotive type.


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[MaxaBaker]

If I was gonna go that high with the voltage, I'd probably skip that and jump to the 2000watt incans. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[lotsalumens]

Heck at 2kW I'd go arc. Never found glowing wires too interesting. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[cheesehead]

So, that's about 30 lithium cells or so? I agree, glowing wires aren't that intersting, but for portable lights and 12-24 volts, what else can we do?

 

[markdi]

to find a good deal on a mpxl - dl50
I spent a lot lot of time searching and emailing people.
I would have never known about the dl50 if I did not get a spec sheet with my 2 dl35 bulbs(3600 lumens at 35 watts vs
3200 lumens for a 85122)
I also asked what the lumen maintenance and lumen output was on a overdriven(to 50 watt) 35 watt hid bulb.

the majority of responses was around 4500 lumens
and some of the responses indicated that there were undesirable color shifts.

maybe the colorshifts are not a problem with spotlights
because no one ever puts enough time on the bulb to notice.

I di not know I am a novice.

any way 2% is 2% I will take it

here is a email I sent to the people I got the ballast igniter and bulb from.
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isn't it warm in ----

it is freezing here

I feel a little better - sorta

my lungs may stay inside my body

I belong to a flashlight website and some of the other members want to know where I got the ballast and bulb.

I am sure I got a fantastic deal from you.

I will only tell them if it is okay with you.

thank you again

Mark Dikeman
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I emailed this about 15 minutes or so ago.

I may not get a response untill sunday or monday.

but I may get a response tonight or ttoommoorrrroww.


If the response is positive I will devulge all.

sorry about the context and spelling but I do feel verry miserable.

I have not been this sick in years.

my next light in the far far future

will be a 10 watt hid mag light

if I get in on a group buy or something.

I have a friend who has a new turbo and intercooler from a volvo and I want to turbocharge my w41 ho quad four in my grand am.

I am sure 320 hp would make me smile.


so I have to quit buying flashlight stuff for a while.

Mark D.

 

[markdi]

It's a 150w Osram HSD

too kool

I am too sick to think but what would be the easy est
way to power that bulb.

some sort of regulation would be nessasry

 

[-Virgil-]

Why you should use the DL-50 rather than D2S @ 50W

There's a very good reason the DL-50 is better than a D2S overdriven at 50w. Take a look at the spec sheet. 40bar pressure when hot. If you still can't figure out why the DL-50's glass UV shield is larger and made of toughened hardglass...!

Let's talk about "undesireable" color shifts. What are we calling "undesireable"? I don't see anything "undesireable" about the color of light emitted by my DL-50s running off Xenlight 50w ballasts.

 

[markdi]

Re: Why you should use the DL-50 rather than D2S @ 50W

color shift ---

I meant 35 watt hid bulbs overdriven to 50 watts

not 50 watt bulbs driven at 50 watts.

my dl50 is a d2s style bulb (d2s base)

I am sick so maybe the context of my post is wrong - sorry

 

[markdi]

Re: Why you should use the DL-50 rather than D2S @ 50W

okay here is the response I got to my email.

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We gave you a special deal these will be the prices for future orders:

Ballasts will be $135.00 for the 12V 50W
DL50 Bulbs $95.00
Igniter $35.00

We also will be launching an internet commerce site at
http://www.hvision.biz that will have detailed information on all the
products.

Regards
John Car
Hypervision
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the 24/50 watt ballast is a xenlight ballast

the only other 50 watt ballast that I know of is the kenrad.

seems like a good price for everything.

sorry I was not a little faster.

http://www.xenlight.com/ballasts.html

 

[markdi]

Re: Why you should use the DL-50 rather than D2S @ 50W

so Scheinwerfermann(I hope I got that name right) do the 50 watt bulbs change color temp
or look funny when running at reduced power at 24 watts ?

will the ballast ignite the bulb in low power mode ?