Why is the SureFire C2 so good?

[ampdude]

My guess is that the C2-BK have *recently* gotten much harder to find, possibly due to higher collecting demand.

I forget to mention this. At the time, I always thought that since the C2 is an expensive light, why would you opt for the far less durable finish? I think a lot of people probably thought the same way I did as the C2-BK MSRP was only a few dollars less than the C2-HA. I think it was like $119 vs. $124. It is basically a 6P-BK head and tailcap screwed onto a C2-BK body. Maybe Surefire just made less of them as well for this reason. And the C2-BK might not meet milspec contract standards. Not that I haven't seen plenty of SF type II lights in military cages, like 6P's especially. But, you know what I'm getting at.

 

[Coppet]

Well, I'm still pretty new about Surefire, I joined via the entry level drug Solarforce. Both my 6P and the C2 are in absolute new condition and although I often use them only in the house or around the house, for car repairs for example the Solarforce models have to be used, practically as a stunt double

And I have to join Ampdude, I always thought the C2-HA and other HA Surefire were the more expensive "Magnum" models
But what interests me still, in the pictures of the C2 models in this thread I see almost exclusively C2 with the twisty tailcap as with the 6P? My C2 has the clicky tailcap, did it come later or is this a retrofitted C2 I have?

 

[scout24]

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will come along, but every C2 that has passed through my hands has come stock with the twisty tailcap. I've added clicky tails to most of mine, some Surefire and some McClicky conversion kits, some of which were added to aftermarket tailcaps...

 

[ven]

All my c2, 6p , z2 came to me with twist tail caps . 6p from vinh had his 10a switch. So i got a few Mcclicky, replaced a few with the intention of keeping 1 or 2 original.............never happened. So most are mcClicky, others are 10a, just makes changing or programming modes easier than the twisty for me. As most of my drivers are programable. Not a deal killer with a tiwsty, as have programmed them , just find clicky more user friendly.

I would hazard a guess someone has changed the innards to a clicky prior to you.
What is the inside of the tail like? that would make it easier to tell.
Usually copper or brass retainer, looks like this if a McClicky

 

[badtziscool]

Well, I'm still pretty new about Surefire, I joined via the entry level drug Solarforce. Both my 6P and the C2 are in absolute new condition and although I often use them only in the house or around the house, for car repairs for example the Solarforce models have to be used, practically as a stunt double

And I have to join Ampdude, I always thought the C2-HA and other HA Surefire were the more expensive "Magnum" models
But what interests me still, in the pictures of the C2 models in this thread I see almost exclusively C2 with the twisty tailcap as with the 6P? My C2 has the clicky tailcap, did it come later or is this a retrofitted C2 I have?

The tailcap you have on your C2 is a Z58 tailcap. Definitely not stock hardware for a C2. Stock is z41. Someone must have replaced it before you took possession. Nothing wrong with it. It works just fine.

 

[archimedes]

.... I'm probably one of the weirdest C series fans out there though. I prefer the round body C3 over the flat body C3, but I prefer the flat body C2 over the round body C2....

No, I'm the same

 

[Coppet]

The tailcap you have on your C2 is a Z58 tailcap.

You're right, I just googled it, it's really a Z58 tailcap. So the C2 was never delivered with a Z58 but always with a Z41 tailcap?
Now of course I would like to have a Z41 in HAIII but I think it won't be easy to find
A McClicky is definitely not built in, I would have noticed that because I already had McClickys in my hand. But I'm very satisfied with the Z58 tailcap, especially with programmable drop-ins it's a bit easier.

 

[archimedes]

You're right, I just googled it, it's really a Z58 tailcap. So the C2 was never delivered with a Z58 but always with a Z41 tailcap?

Not "normally" , but with SureFire there have been lots of unusual / rare special-editions, one-offs, prototypes, promo releases, etc. So hard to say with certainty, but I can't easily recall an example off the top of my head.

Now of course I would like to have a Z41 in HAIII but I think it won't be easy to find

Ehh, a fair number of C2-HA owners have "upgraded" to clicky tailcaps over the years, so a WTB (and/or auction sites) might have a pretty reasonable chance of success.

Far less C2 have been parted out than 6P, though, so it is certainly much easier to find stock Z41 in BK finish.

Oveready also do a replica of the Z41 in HA-natural, and I believe you can order it with "twisty" internals, if you don't care that it wouldn't be SureFire OEM.

A McClicky is definitely not built in, I would have noticed that because I already had McClickys in my hand. But I'm very satisfied with the Z58 tailcap, especially with programmable drop-ins it's a bit easier.

Be aware that the McClickie internals are higher amperage rated than the stock SF Z58. Otherwise, they are pretty similar.

 

[archimedes]

There are other good SF tail options for the C-series, beyond only the Z41 and Z58, too ...

 

[thermal guy]

I wouldn’t mine putting a McClicky in in Z41.Is there anyone that sells just the brass ring? I already have a bunch of McClicky

 

[ven]

There are other good SF tail options for the C-series, beyond only the Z41 and Z58, too ...

:rock::rock::bow::bow::wow:

 

[Coppet]

These two tailcaps certainly don't exist in the shop around the corner, very nice :wow::wow:

 

[archimedes]

I wouldn’t mine putting a McClicky in in Z41.Is there anyone that sells just the brass ring? I already have a bunch of McClicky

Yes, Oveready does (or did)

:rock::rock::bow::bow::wow:

These two tailcaps certainly don't exist in the shop around the corner, very nice :wow::wow:

Thank you both

 

[lightsdog]

I read all of this thread and I'm happy that I'm not alone in my fondness for Surefire lights,especially the M/C 2 series.

I have three C2's one still NIP and the other two with upgraded click tailcaps and LED's.

My M2 has a Surefire clicky with a rubber ring at the base and an LED.

 

[ven]

Your far from alone lightsdog, there are many many more. Facebook has a couple of closed groups with many members. Not to mention the other threads here, E and 6p etc.

The surefires have kept my interest for years, that is never going away. Although i dont add that many, i still keep an eye out. My latest being the m6. I have been wanting one for a while, both the 250 and 500lm bulbs which make for an amazing beam. For day to day(or night to night) it has a lumens factory 319a in

Love the smaller surefires 2

6p's

c2's

m2

g2z

z2's

work use surefires, g2/6p and z2

These are my fav ones, all run 16650 which keeps the body standard(much prefer). I have maybe 3 bored surefires in total. I have no plans for any more, 16650 is enough for my wants,needs and uses.

 

[lightsdog]

Nice group of lights ven.I see different heads on some.

I've never owned an M6 although I do own two M4 Devastators.Last night I placed two 165650's in one M4 and was surprised it worked.

 

[Kestrel]

[...] Last night I placed two 165650's in one M4 and was surprised it worked.

I'm just suprised you could get those cells to fit - not sure of their form factor, but they sound way larger than the typical 16650's.

 

[peter yetman]

You had me going there, for a bit.
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[scout24]

M400 handheld? 😁

 

[lightsdog]

I'm just suprised you could get those cells to fit - not sure of their form factor, but they sound way larger than the typical 16650's.

You don't know me well.My wife said I could shrink anything.I just had to put it into the dryer.LOL

All my fellow Microholics know this.