TwinBlade
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Wait a minute. Does that go under the head of the flashlight or is that the actual head itself?:thinking:😗
Why Surefire?
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asdalton
Flashlight Enthusiast
The Malkoff M60, M61, etc. are drop-in lamp replacements, not heads.
AnAppleSnail
Flashlight Enthusiast
They're the funny coney springy thingy.
TwinBlade
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Well when ZI talked to the guy at the Hales Corners Sherpers, he said he had the LED lamp assembly. The Oconomowoc Sherpers had the flashlight itself. There was a decent discount given the running around that I had to do. 😀
Just FYI.
AnAppleSnail, I am up to speed now. Told ya I had no clue what I was talking about...:laughing::laughing:
CarpentryHero
Flashlight Enthusiast
On the way home I picked up the Surefire G2 LED. Rated at 80 lumens, yet it's brighter then my quark AA2 rated at 200 lumens. WOW I'm hooked :twothumbs
I only payed 10 dollars more for the Surefire
I only payed 10 dollars more for the Surefire
AnAppleSnail
Flashlight Enthusiast
Wow indeed - You're not helping my wallet!
(As soon as I have disposable income again...)
red02
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Beside their unique names LEDs are rated for 2 things tint and flux. The flux is denoted by a letter followed by a number: "R2" for example. The later the letter in the alphabet and the higher the number the brighter the LED will be at the same current. So a Q- will be lower flux than an R or an S.
Since there are no XREs higher than R2 its common place to associate anything above that with the XPG. Therefore, Q5 refers to an older XRE flux bin (the max now is the R2 bin). The R5 refers to the highest XPG flux bin. The XRE will throw more while the XPG will be a tad brighter but more floody. The XRE will max out at 200+ OTF and the XPG will probably be closer to 270+ OTF.
Really depends on the preference. You should try the P60 thread at the top of this page for more information.
Impressive, I've been using my G2 with a Deree module. Makes me want to give the P60L another shot. I've only played around with it during the daytime...
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TwinBlade
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Thanks for the info on ratings man. I hope the whole Malkoff's not floating my boat thing was not taken wrong. I thought it was an actual replacement head that got screwed on. I was like "who the heck puts this big church bell looking eye sore on the end of their flashlight"?:laughing::laughing::laughing:
I do not see the P60 link. Got a direct one?
I do not see the P60 link. Got a direct one?
jchoo
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Link to Malkoff M61L, ~175 lumens, 5 hours of runtime.
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m61l-low-output-to-fit-surefire-p-8.html
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m61l-low-output-to-fit-surefire-p-8.html
red02
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http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=217252
P60 Dropin thread.
My mistake, the thread was in the LED section.
carrot
Flashaholic
+1 on the Malkoffs.
When I first heard about them, and heard people's recommendations for them, I was skeptical and unbelieving that they were anywhere as good as people said.
But, at SHOT Show 2010 I met the man himself (Gene) (and his wonderful wife, Cathy), checked out his XP-G prototypes (the updated Wildcat and the M61), and bought an M60 from a CPF-friendly dealer. Four Malkoff drop-ins later... and I still haven't gotten enough! They are THAT GOOD, you will not regret it! Every time I use my M60 and M61, I am blown away by how awesome they are!
With a gorgeous, perfectly balanced beam (M61), superb throw (M60), excellent regulation (all), and superior reliability, the Malkoff modules are THE ones to beat.
When I first heard about them, and heard people's recommendations for them, I was skeptical and unbelieving that they were anywhere as good as people said.
But, at SHOT Show 2010 I met the man himself (Gene) (and his wonderful wife, Cathy), checked out his XP-G prototypes (the updated Wildcat and the M61), and bought an M60 from a CPF-friendly dealer. Four Malkoff drop-ins later... and I still haven't gotten enough! They are THAT GOOD, you will not regret it! Every time I use my M60 and M61, I am blown away by how awesome they are!
With a gorgeous, perfectly balanced beam (M61), superb throw (M60), excellent regulation (all), and superior reliability, the Malkoff modules are THE ones to beat.
TwinBlade
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Ok, can we change this up to a P60 vs P60 drop in for a sec?
I have some time tonight to do some searching and I am getting a bit overwhelmed.
I saw this on going gear...
ThruNite P60 Style XP-G R5 300 Lumen http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_35&products_id=805
and it is a one mode.
Could we discuss this vs the Malkoff that jchoo posted for a minute? I mean it is half the price and a whole lot of power, but no runtimes are listed...
I have some time tonight to do some searching and I am getting a bit overwhelmed.
I saw this on going gear...
ThruNite P60 Style XP-G R5 300 Lumen http://goinggear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_35&products_id=805
and it is a one mode.
Could we discuss this vs the Malkoff that jchoo posted for a minute? I mean it is half the price and a whole lot of power, but no runtimes are listed...
kramer5150
Flashaholic
Once the fog clears from your head and your CPF knowledge base increases, Malkoff designs WILL float your boat. 😛
Congrats and welcome to the SF family... now its time to get serious😉
TwinBlade
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Yup, they already do. Read a bit further on some of my posts.😉
Thanks for the welcome. I need this new found "fix" like I need another hole in my head...:laughing:
Thanks for the welcome. I need this new found "fix" like I need another hole in my head...:laughing:
Let It Bleed
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We could do a "why Malkoff?" and the answers would be similar to the "why Surefire" responses.
However I have a Thrunite single mode 1.5A XP-G drop-in and it is excellent. It puts out more lumens than the Malkoff XP-G drop-in (M61) and it's definitely worth the cost of admission.
Whether the Malkoff is worth twice the money is an individual decision, which for me the answer was yes, since I've bought three M61 and three Malkoff Mag drop-ins. I may not need this level of quality, but I've never "needed" less.
However I have a Thrunite single mode 1.5A XP-G drop-in and it is excellent. It puts out more lumens than the Malkoff XP-G drop-in (M61) and it's definitely worth the cost of admission.
Whether the Malkoff is worth twice the money is an individual decision, which for me the answer was yes, since I've bought three M61 and three Malkoff Mag drop-ins. I may not need this level of quality, but I've never "needed" less.
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bestcounsel
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Ill tell you what, I had a thrunite bulb exactly like the one below and was really impressed.....it was as bright maybe even a hint brighter than my Malkoff M60...the only thing i did not like was that its an import and i dont like using import bulbs in my tac lights....
Also, you cannot compare the build....Malkoff blew the bulb away in build...
Also, I know if my Malkoff went poof, Gene would make good and fix at my cost of course...Import stuff once it goes dead your on your own...thats another reason whey i like surefire...awesome warranty
Also, you cannot compare the build....Malkoff blew the bulb away in build...
Also, I know if my Malkoff went poof, Gene would make good and fix at my cost of course...Import stuff once it goes dead your on your own...thats another reason whey i like surefire...awesome warranty
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Dude Dudeson
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My two cents: Some Surefire models are worth every penny, and some are ridiculously overpriced.
A lot of them are in a grey area in between..... in my opinion.
A lot of them are in a grey area in between..... in my opinion.
TwinBlade
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Well crap, according to this I may as well get both.
Kind of like Golf. Drive for show, putt for dough right? I mean it's only money afterall...:thinking:
The Malkoff will probably be my first purchase by virtue of sheer versatility of real world need for light output. The Thrunite drop in will be my "**** off the teenagers who are so loud at night on their bikes" light.😀
I made mention in another thread, I may as well get 8 drop ins for this Surefire and ditch all my other lights.
This swapping and building (or lego as you all call it) can be addicting...
TwinBlade
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Agreed. I talked with the sales guy (also retired military) about SF lights. He has 8 or 9 of them IIRC. He also said the Titan is WAY overpriced. I made mention that I said on the forums here if it was $150, I would buy it in a heartbeat. $240 is friggin absurd.
Just my opinion.
They have plenty in a good price point after a lot of searching and input, so its all good.
