X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

windstrings - how big is the difference in throw between x60vn and k60vn, because in your beamshots it looks as if the throw was very similar. I ask because the x60vn has 600 lux and k60vn 230 lux.

Here's the problem I have...
I can try again tonight, but being over the lake has lots of moisture.

Those shots were about 175 yards and my next point is about 350 but I might peeve some apartment dwellers off... Humm... Oh well 😊

After that it's maybe 1/2 mile and the beam is so bright it's hard to tell in the moisture ...

But regardless maybe I can find a finge target that one can hit and the other barely makes it.

As you know with your headlights at night, of there is moisture in the air low beams is almost better.


But I'll try...
Just from my shining into space it looks maybe 15 percent more throw with same sized beam. But since there is no real target, that's a crappy test.

I really need an slr so I can take single shots and control etc... Otherwise the camera dials itself down but I'll play with settings and experiment.

I have an iso setting too but resolution is much less if I use it.

 

[windstrings]

Yeah for the money that K60 is a bad mfer. My X40 fiat lux has served me well with 243,000 lux and 3500 or so lumens but I still think I'm going to buy a K60

Yea, worth the money big time, then again... It's a heavyweight contender!

 

[greg82]

Thanks guys for an explanation. I'm looking for an alternative to my old SR90 but I can not decide what to choose. At first I thought about tk75vn kt , but as I saw the new x60vn it already did not know which to choose.

 

[windstrings]

I also have the sr90, it's heavier than both... maybe 1/3 the strength by appearance when you consider how much muscle it takes to make something look twice as bright.

I bet you would love the x60vn since you're already used to the size.

I've included pics... Left is k60vn, middle is sr90, right is x60vn.
I included the belt holster for the k60 in case anyone was curious.

X60vn has largest head and it's apparent at night.. Quite amazing how the 5 leds appears as one with a perfect beam.

 

[Hammerdown]

Windstrings your handle picture freaks me out

 

[InfinitusEquitas]

Can't really go wrong with the X60vn. Even stock, and without dedome the X60 spanks the SR90.

 

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

Someone mentioned the tm36 now the post is gone?

Anyway I couldn't find a direct comparison because I don't think there is one.

But here you see a comparison between the older version x60vn and the tk61 http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=383198

Then here you see a comparison between the tm36 and the tk61.

I suppose it's fair to assume if the tk61 & tm36 are fairly even par, and the older x60vn spanks the tk61, seems the new x60vn also spanks the tm36 unless I missed something.

 

[greg82]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

Now I know what to buy 🙂 definitely x60vn
Windstrings-a few posts earlier you said that your x60vn is fully loaded , so fully loaded that is Option B + C ??? because I'm not sure.

 

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

I believe mine has option B, C, D, E.

Just did 1150 yard test!!!

Control - there is a tiny red light I'll shoot at on the other side of the lake... This is . 66 miles or 3470 feet according to Google or 1150 yards.

K60vn

Now x60vn, note the beam looks longer too.
While this is hard to see with my note 4 camera full resolution, it was much better in person with my eyes. Both lights make it to the other side, it's just hard to see on these pics. The x60vn does have an advantage but not excessively so.

 

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

Here is video which IMO gives the best comparison.
It starts with 1150 yard shot across the lake, moves to approx 140 yard to start then 175 yard shot, then finishes approx 350 yards.
X60vn right vs k60vn left: https://youtu.be/vWLSiRwgCOw

 

[MaxBeam]

Windstrings your handle picture freaks me out

LOL, he's a dead ringer for Marty Feldman!

 

[Bigwilly]

The light keeps building heat even at like 75%. Anyone have any tips for heat management? Longer run times without getting hot and the X60vn would perfect in my opinion. I think active cooling is going to be needed as Vinh keeps taking these lights to the next level.

 

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

The light keeps building heat even at like 75%. Anyone have any tips for heat management? Longer run times without getting hot and the X60vn would perfect in my opinion. I think active cooling is going to be needed as Vinh keeps taking these lights to the next level.

K60vn heats up faster.

1. Use bare hands so you can accurately monitor temp as well as your hands also conduct some heat away.
2. Turn it down at least 2 notches if overheating is suspected rather than one "but off is better of able" .
3. Never put it on turbo or high to do a job while not holding holding it.

Vinhs list covers it otherwise.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=4328973

 

[Bigwilly]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

K60vn heats up faster.

1. Use bare hands so you can accurately monitor temp as well as your hands also conduct some heat away.
2. Turn it down at least 2 notches if overheating is suspected rather than one "but off is better of able" .
3. Never put it on turbo or high to do a job while not holding holding it.

Vinhs list covers it otherwise.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=4328973

The X60vn doesn't really have notches. It has infinite brightness between the low click and the high click. I understand that as with all my Vinh lights, you turn down 1 or 2 levels and the heat is well controlled. On this light, I have yet to find the max level where it still isn't getting hotter. I know at around 75% it's definitely still getting hotter.
Does anyone know the relationship between ambient temperature and how fast heat is built? I mean for big spotlights like this or the TK75vn KT. Is there a point in air temperature where it does slow down how fast they heat up. If I get 12 minutes on the X60vn at 88 degrees would I see xxx minutes at 70 degrees or 50 degrees? Or does it not make a big difference until it's really cold like 30 degrees out?

 

[crashunit007]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

K60vn heats up faster.

1. Use bare hands so you can accurately monitor temp as well as your hands also conduct some heat away.
2. Turn it down at least 2 notches if overheating is suspected rather than one "but off is better of able" .
3. Never put it on turbo or high to do a job while not holding holding it.

Vinhs list covers it otherwise.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?p=4328973

Thanks for the comparison pics, if you hadnt posted it, I would have never known how well the K60vn does against the X60vn. Now I kinda want to get it even more, since it would be nice to have a smaller version of the X60vn. Surprised the K60vn heats up faster then the X60vn too. The X60Mvn also heats up faster and gets hotter then the X60vn as well and is also slightly heavier too (about 6 oz.), but it doesnt throw really, and is more of a floodlight with a little distance. Brightness between the two even with the X60Mvn being brighter is not that much different, although the tint and build quality is better on the X60Mvn. So if I had to choose between the two Id go with the X60vn, unless you didnt need or want a thrower and just a flood light, then the X60Mvn is the better option.

 

[crashunit007]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

Here is some beam shots I just took between my top 4 Thrower Vinh lights just to give you a comparison of how thick and bright the beam is on the X60vn compared to the M25C2vnT, TK61 Ver.1, and the X60Mvn, which is the only light that is not De-domed, and is still only slightly brighter then the X60vn, However its more of a flood light then a thrower. Also don't use this to see which threw further, since I couldn't get all the lights to point in the same direction, but it does give a pretty good comparison of the brightness and thickness of the beams from each light.

 

[Bigwilly]

So over the weekend I ran the X60vn until uncomfortable and then checked the surface temperature with an infrared thermometer. It was 125 degrees. Vinh says on all his lights to run on turbo only until just uncomfortable and throttle down. Is there a hard number where after damage is likely to occur? Testing with D25Cvn Ti it was uncomfortable at 104 degrees. Maybe because of different meyal or because of size but definitely felt uncomfortable at that temperature. If I moved my hand back from right at the head / selection switch a few inches I probably could of held the X60vn for a while longer. Hence the question what is the temperature that the internals can damaged ?

 

[windstrings]

Re: X60vn 2015 - Lumen & Throw

X60 has a longer handle than k60 for instance, so I wonder if you could inadvertently get it too hot easier since it takes longer for the heat to reach your hand? More heat sink yes but we're talking about using feel as an indicator.


Guess the real indicator is to touch the head I would think

 

[lumentia]

So over the weekend I ran the X60vn until uncomfortable and then checked the surface temperature with an infrared thermometer. It was 125 degrees. Vinh says on all his lights to run on turbo only until just uncomfortable and throttle down. Is there a hard number where after damage is likely to occur? Testing with D25Cvn Ti it was uncomfortable at 104 degrees. Maybe because of different meyal or because of size but definitely felt uncomfortable at that temperature. If I moved my hand back from right at the head / selection switch a few inches I probably could of held the X60vn for a while longer. Hence the question what is the temperature that the internals can damaged ?

Infrared thermometers seem to have a hard time getting accurate readings from shiny surfaces. I've found they always error on the conservative side.

Your temperature threshold is the same as mine at around 125 degrees F. It's likely the d25cvn ti is actually 125 degrees when too hot to hold.

 

[more_vampires]

Infrared thermometers seem to have a hard time getting accurate readings from shiny surfaces. I've found they always error on the conservative side.

Your temperature threshold is the same as mine at around 125 degrees F. It's likely the d25cvn ti is actually 125 degrees when too hot to hold.

Piece of tape, hit that instead. 🙂