Shorty66
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You are right, the ZL statement really sound like that.
I hope we will be able to get these glass optics as a replacement to use it as an optional diffusor on our standard H51.
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You are right, the ZL statement really sound like that.
I hope we will be able to get these glass optics as a replacement to use it as an optional diffusor on our standard H51.
I would actually prefer a VERY wide spot with wide spill over a completely smooth beam. I dont need much light to navigate by (spill), but could use a bit of spot for working, and seeing ahead of me a bit when walking. An xpg with a very small reflector would probably be perfect for me.
I find with my H501w, I have to run it a bit higher in order to see a little further, yet the area in front of my feet has more light than I actually need. It is a great light though, and I use it alot.
I find with my H501w, I have to run it a bit higher in order to see a little further, yet the area in front of my feet has more light than I actually need. It is a great light though, and I use it alot.
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You're pretty much correct about the XP-G in that regard. Probably a good maybe perfect balance of throw and flood. I'm still on the fence whether to wait for the H51/H51f or just go ahead and get the H31 now.
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I'm on the fence too. Seems to me that the choice pretty much depends on whether you want to go with CR123 or AA. I'm waiting for announcement, specs, and early reactions to the H51 line before I make up my mind. Is that still expected later this month?
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I don't recall if there was even a tentative date for the H51 other than "it's in the works". At this point I am cool with CR123 or AA since I have a bunch of both cells.
MountainVoyageur
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I thought I remembered they were reported to be saying 3 or 4 weeks after the H31. The H31 was in late April.
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red02
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I hate to be cynical, but Zebralight isn't know for their rock-solid release dates. Just to put things in perspective, the H31 just started shipping and the H51 isn't even on their site. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it will be less than 2-3 months.
That said, I hope H51F is really impressive. The H501 is great, but I really want a more efficient all-flood light.
That said, I hope H51F is really impressive. The H501 is great, but I really want a more efficient all-flood light.
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Shorty66
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To me an adjustable head is completly useless: It just increases bulk, weight and the probaility of flaws.
The only reson for adjustable heads is to be able to adujst the head while tailstanding. I can easily do that with any zebralight if its in the Pocketclip:
Just lay it on the pocketclip and adjust the angle acordingly by turning the light in the clip.
To me the MC10 is the perfect example for a product which isnt at all innovative or well thought out.
The only reson for adjustable heads is to be able to adujst the head while tailstanding. I can easily do that with any zebralight if its in the Pocketclip:
Just lay it on the pocketclip and adjust the angle acordingly by turning the light in the clip.
To me the MC10 is the perfect example for a product which isnt at all innovative or well thought out.
Well, I do agree with you that an adjustable head can increase bulk, weight, and failure points.
But there is a payoff: I've used my MC-10 in two situations other than tailstanding.
While trail running, I use the MC-10, and would use a ZL variant with an adjustable head, as a handheld light. Adjusting the tilt of the head while leaving my hand in a position of comfort lets me keep a more natural arm motion, which in turn gives me a more stable platform for the light, and hence a better beam on the trail.
Also, I've used it clipped vertically to clothing or straps. The adjustable head allows me to point the light downward to whatever angle I like. I think the light was probably designed to appeal to military users who would attach the light to a MOLLE vest, and would be limited to a vertical orientation.
I'm not sure how innovative the MC-10 is, it's not the first adjustable angle light out there. But, I've found mine solid and reliable, well designed and executed.
Ted
But there is a payoff: I've used my MC-10 in two situations other than tailstanding.
While trail running, I use the MC-10, and would use a ZL variant with an adjustable head, as a handheld light. Adjusting the tilt of the head while leaving my hand in a position of comfort lets me keep a more natural arm motion, which in turn gives me a more stable platform for the light, and hence a better beam on the trail.
Also, I've used it clipped vertically to clothing or straps. The adjustable head allows me to point the light downward to whatever angle I like. I think the light was probably designed to appeal to military users who would attach the light to a MOLLE vest, and would be limited to a vertical orientation.
I'm not sure how innovative the MC-10 is, it's not the first adjustable angle light out there. But, I've found mine solid and reliable, well designed and executed.
Ted
Shorty66
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Well, i might have been a bit harsh and you sure got a point. To me the MC10 still rather seems like a toy especially if compared to the superb concepts of zebralight...
I love the adjustable head of MC-10. Unfortunately, as I only buys lights I can carry in my shirt pockets or on my belt, the MC-10 is a little too big for that. Zebralight all flood lights probably don't need an adjustable head because the beam is everywhere already. The new lights with reflectors with a narrower beam might benefit from this feature.
I use my H501 attached to a surface like this very often. The 80 degree beam provides wide coverage, but a light with a reflector will have a much narrower beam and thus can benefit from an adjustable head.
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Be patient! I have high hope that the H51 will be a great light. I am actually excited to get this light because it will let me carry just a single light for everything -- flashlight, headlamp, and task light. With a reflector, it will have some throw. With XP-G, it will have some flood. I even bought a nice horizontal phone case for it, which right now houses the H501 and headband.
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red02, the joint: I just looked closely at it, and, well, I'm not sure how it works. There is definitely a ratcheting mechanism. It's not clear if the power is transmitted through the hinge, or if there is a wire buried in there somewhere. It does look pretty beefy; I'm more worried about the wire or electrical contacts failing than the hinge itself.
Shorty66, Zebralight: absolutely agree, the MC10 execution could have been much better. Zebralight has figured out how to make some of the classiest stuff out there. Definitely looking forward to the H51!
Ted
Shorty66, Zebralight: absolutely agree, the MC10 execution could have been much better. Zebralight has figured out how to make some of the classiest stuff out there. Definitely looking forward to the H51!
Ted
GarageBoy
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Man these Zebralights names are becomming very confusing
