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I'm not the expert on this, but I think a LED without reflector and lens will be like a candle, you can get flood but not as H501's controlled floody light.
NOHS also have a lens, I guest that make the even beam, and the BLACK reflector absorbed some light--which contribute to the clear boundary of the beam.
 
dracodoc said:
I'm not the expert on this, but I think a LED without reflector and lens will be like a candle, you can get flood but not as H501's controlled floody light.
NOHS also have a lens, I guest that make the even beam, and the BLACK reflector absorbed some light--which contribute to the clear boundary of the beam.
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I have wondered about that but am doubtful about the need of a lens. Also a naked LED-bulb will provide an even illuminated flood-beam.
Look here my comparison between Itp C6-T flashlight (claimed 230lm and here with removed body and reflector) and Zebralight H-501 at high:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9291/itpc6ochh501flood.jpg

Regards, Patric
 
The Zebralights look awesome; they make very good use of space. Very impressive. Ever since my first three ZLs, I have been waiting for them to move away from Q5's to higher efficiency. They are hitting two birds with one stone. The warms would also be great (here's to hoping for new warm emitters in the next six months).:thumbsup:
 
If I take the reflector off my MG L-mini II, the result is a smooth floody beam. I don't have a zebralight to compare it to, so I can't say how similar it is.

--flatline
 
Swedpat said:
I have wondered about that but am doubtful about the need of a lens. Also a naked LED-bulb will provide an even illuminated flood-beam.
Look here my comparison between Itp C6-T flashlight (claimed 230lm and here with removed body and reflector) and Zebralight H-501 at high:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9291/itpc6ochh501flood.jpg

Regards, Patric
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I saw your ITP beam have an angle, is it came from the LED without any barrier?
I would say the H501 beam is more even, but the difference is not much. However, I think you need some kind of protection on bare LED in reality use?
 
dracodoc said:
I saw your ITP beam have an angle, is it came from the LED without any barrier?
I would say the H501 beam is more even, but the difference is not much. However, I think you need some kind of protection on bare LED in reality use?
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Here is a picure of the light so you can see how it looks like with removed reflector, as you can see it's a barrier which causes the sharp edge of the beam. This also protects the bulb so the light an stand without risking to damage the bulb.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6725/itpc6utanreflektor.jpg
 
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UI updates? Re: Zebralight is going to come out with flashlights! UPDATES!

So, do the H501/H501w's being sold now have (or will they have) an updated UI, such as the one reported with the new "Red" H501, or has the UI undergone any changes since its release? If they've updated any, do all the 501 series UI's match, or have any updates been asymmetrical?

Most importantly, is it correct that all current H501 series have the "option to either start on low or high" (determined by length of power-on press)? I hadn't known of that feature--it's nice. I personally prefer to start low. But with a lamp which is weaker by nature, starting on high is easier to understand.

Marduke said:
Yes. If you hold, it ramps up from the lowest to the highest. If you click, it comes on in high. You can then hold to ramp down to min. If you continue holding in either direction for hidden flashy modes.
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Thanks Marduke for that enlightening info on the Photon Freedom. That has got to be the best User Interface I have ever heard of on a flashlight. Amazing they implemented it on a mini keychain light. Even more amazing it hasn't been copied by everyone.

Anyone who'd articulate the differences in the (latest?) H501 vs H30 UI, it'd be appreciated.

I can't see why the H501 has no mount (hole) for keychain/lanyard like the H30. Unless I've missed it, I think ZL sold themselves short, (maybe?) thinking no one would want to use it on their keychain (can use tailcap lockout). Tailcap lockouts make twisties seem attractive (you're already twisting anyway), but with the H50's lower light output and lack of warm tint option (even with the 80-degree design of the H50b), the H501w has my AA attention. Some keychain option like the H30 would be a great 'update'.

To a user who wished for the clickie to be at the tailcap, the fact Zebralight incorporates the headlamp switch at the head, allows the use of the clip, with the light mostly tucked into into a shirt or coat pocket. Very neat.

I've seen errant references to H30w (warm). Has this animal been seen in the wild, and if so, is it sold by special request only or something? Doesn't seem like such a hard thing to just put a warm LED in there? Would also be a great 'update'/new product (so logical).

It looks like Zebralight made the right decision on the Q3 5A for the H501w (warm tint) emitter. Check out this lovely tint beamshot comparo courtesy of saabluster, vs R2 and MC-E:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2654418&postcount=269
which I found from
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=215025

CPF users are becoming more sophisticated in their understanding of how human retinas (rods and cones) works at low light levels, and how lumens vs tint on paper don't necessarily translate in real life. Now that I've been convinced, any future 'high end' flashlight would require a warm tint, especially if not super-bright. I could even see mfr's activating a supplementary red (or orange/low wavelength?) LED at "low" settings, to improve color perception.
 
davidt1 said:
Hmmm! Interesting! Folks here normally go gaga over anything shiny and with the words "stainless steel", "titanium", "tactical", or "rambo" in the description.
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I don't get your point... :thinking:

Are you suggesting that my comment was an invalid opinion?

:shrug:
 
DimeRazorback said:
Are you suggesting that my comment was an invalid opinion?
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"Most people" seem to just want the brightest thing they can get, for the cheapest price they can get it at, so I'd take that as a compliment, since Zebralights are geared toward practical users, not to people who want an impressive looking toy to show off.
 
Actually I think that Natural finish is more impressive than most black, stainless steel, Ti finish, have more feel of quality 🙂
 
I love floods but flood-wise how can anything compete with MC-E? Won't an MC-E on medium outshine and outflood high on these flashlights?
 
Yeah, totally orange and apple stuff. Who needs 700 lumens to read or walk the dog! The most useful light is the one you have with you when you need it. That means the light that is small enough to put in your pocket so you can have it when you need it.

Here is hoping that Zebralight will make their new AA lights 14500 capable. Give us the option to use whatever battery we want.
 
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