Zebralight SC600Fd III Plus - XHP50

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oKtosiTe said:
I feel the same way. Still, the addition of a variable mode would be neat.
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Hmmm.

-10 clicks from off to enter/leave variable brightness mode
-single click: last variable brightness mode used/switch off
-press and hold (from on and off) to ramp through brightness from lowest to highest, let go to select

That would work. :)
 
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Connor said:
-10 clicks from off to enter/leave variable brightness mode
-single click: last variable brightness mode used/switch off
-press and hold (from on and off) to ramp through brightness from lowest to highest, let go to select
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That would work from programming.

I think ramping while in a mode group should ramp up from the current output (maybe reverse from low?) and cycle from the lowest output Zebralight has set for that mode group to one output level lower than the next mode group. I.E. Low could ramp from .01-11 lumens or so, then medium would ramp from 11-149 lumens, and high would ramp from 150-max, these numbers are based on the SC62W.

Ramping could also work in regular use, not just programming. Double click and hold to ramp within a mode group.
 
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eraursls1984 said:
I think ramping while in a mode group should ramp up from the current output (maybe reverse from low?) and cycle from the lowest output Zebralight has set for that mode group to one output level lower than the next mode group. I.E. Low could ramp from .01-11 lumens or so, then medium would ramp from 11-149 lumens, and high would ramp from 150-max, these numbers are based on the SC62W.
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While I still like Zebralight's UI better, my Armytek Wizard Pro v3's UI is pretty nice in some ways. On my Wizard Pro, when you press and hold while the light is on in any group, it'll cycle through the other sublevels in the group. Maybe another alternative is for Zebralight to allow double (or triple) click and hold to cycle through each sublevel in the group and which ever one you let go, it'll be the new sublevel.

But anyways...I'll just leave it at that as I don't want to start a UI debate!
 
tops2 said:
While I still like Zebralight's UI better, my Armytek Wizard Pro v3's UI is pretty nice in some ways. On my Wizard Pro, when you press and hold while the light is on in any group, it'll cycle through the other sublevels in the group. Maybe another alternative is for Zebralight to allow double (or triple) click and hold to cycle through each sublevel in the group and which ever one you let go, it'll be the new sublevel.

But anyways...I'll just leave it at that as I don't want to start a UI debate!
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I think Amrytek's UI sounds great, but after having a bad experience with them I doubt I'll own another.
 
Following zebralight's google document, SC600Fd MK3's length is same with SC600 MK3, 3.8inch.

It means SC600FD MK3 only accept unprotected cell? I think length issue have to be solved.
I have SC600 MK3. It even can not my unprotected cell that is soldering positive tip of battery for using with series. It just only 2~3mm.

I can not sure what SC600Fd will be pre-ordered. But if length is same with SC600 MK3, that is very weakness of this very cool light.
 
shrike2222 said:
Following zebralight's google document, SC600Fd MK3's length is same with SC600 MK3, 3.8inch.

It means SC600FD MK3 only accept unprotected cell? I think length issue have to be solved.
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There is no length issue. The newer ZLs only accept unprotected flattop 18650s (i.e. 65.0-65.2 mm long) which is the industry standard for 18650 cells. Protection circuitry is integrated in your ZebraLight.
Just buy a couple of the new 3500 mAh Sanyo/LG/Samsung cells.

This is the price you pay for having a super-compact high-powered light. :)
 
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Connor said:
There is no length issue. The newer ZLs only accept unprotected flattop 18650s (i.e. 65.0-65.2 mm long) which is the industry standard for 18650 cells. Protection circuitry is integrated in your ZebraLight.
Just buy a couple of the new 3500 mAh Sanyo/LG/Sony cells.

This is the price you pay for having a super-compact high-powered light. :)
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Yes. And a very modest price IMO.
 
Every time this thread gets bumped up I thought it's more update from ZL.

Oh how I wish that's true.
 
Some of us would post whatever ZL has updated right here. If ZL finally finishes polishing the light and they are ready for pre-order they will come up with a webpage. Their Google spreadsheet says release date would be 8/2016 so maybe we have a bit less than 2 weeks for the light's full spec released to the public and we get to pre-order.

I've been refreshing the ZL website for over 20 times a day trying to search for updates for the past week. Can't wait.
 
Of course I knew that.
But in my opinion accepting SC600Fd more room for battery, that is better for many users like have protected battery.

Anyway I will check, how Zebralight finally makes SC600Fd and pre-order.
Connor said:
There is no length issue. The newer ZLs only accept unprotected flattop 18650s (i.e. 65.0-65.2 mm long) which is the industry standard for 18650 cells. Protection circuitry is integrated in your ZebraLight.
Just buy a couple of the new 3500 mAh Sanyo/LG/Samsung cells.

This is the price you pay for having a super-compact high-powered light. :)
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Connor said:
There is no length issue. The newer ZLs only accept unprotected flattop 18650s (i.e. 65.0-65.2 mm long) which is the industry standard for 18650 cells. Protection circuitry is integrated in your ZebraLight.
Just buy a couple of the new 3500 mAh Sanyo/LG/Samsung cells.

This is the price you pay for having a super-compact high-powered light. :)
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+1

I am now using unprotected batteries in most all of my lights.

I find it odd that people who would spend the time to search out this web site would not also spend some time to learn about what is lithium ion battery safety. It is not 'rocket science'.

A better understanding of what a 'protected battery' is would solve many perceived problems, and it would be a detriment to the big money battery suppliers make by installing an extremely inexpensive circuit that you 'trust' will work. :caution:
 
roger-roger said:
Basically it *seems* the evolution of the protected battery, came about to address inadequate product implementation.
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That, and everyone that watched a youtube video of guy hooking an 18650 up to a car battery suddenly thinks a protected battery is the greatest thing ever invented. It's certainly not an excuse to forget about proper care or blindly feel safer.
 
The large Li-ion battery makers do not manufacture protected batteries. They make only unprotected batteries that are sold to OEMs. An OEM that uses one of these batteries is expected to design an appropriate battery management system (including protection) for their product.

That is what laptop, tablet, cell phone, power tool, and automobile OEMs do.

It is also exactly what ZebraLight does! The protection circuits built into all recent ZebraLight Li-ion flashlights and headlamps are better than the cheap protection circuits you get with a protected battery.

I have no qualms about using an unprotected battery in the ZebraLight SC600Fd Mk. III Plus.
 
Just got a reply from Zebralight that is rather interesting. I hope they do look into the beacon button.

Thanks for your comments and suggestion. You may notice that we haven't done any UI update in the last 4 years ever since the PID thermal regulation was introduced. That's because we ran out of firmware memory space (can't add anything) in that tiny microcontroller chip. The SC600Fd III Plus is based a new platform that doubles the firmware memory space, has more internal brightness levels (the PID still use 384 levels, but the main H1, ... L2 levels are picked from 768 internal levels), and comes with some other improvements. Starting with the SC600Fd III Plus, we'll realign all main brightness levels. We'll look into the 'OFF state beacon indicator'. Thanks.

Sincerely,

ZebraLight, Inc.
 
Cobraman502 said:
Just got a reply from Zebralight that is rather interesting. I hope they do look into the beacon button.

Thanks for your comments and suggestion. You may notice that we haven't done any UI update in the last 4 years ever since the PID thermal regulation was introduced. That's because we ran out of firmware memory space (can't add anything) in that tiny microcontroller chip. The SC600Fd III Plus is based a new platform that doubles the firmware memory space, has more internal brightness levels (the PID still use 384 levels, but the main H1, ... L2 levels are picked from 768 internal levels), and comes with some other improvements. Starting with the SC600Fd III Plus, we'll realign all main brightness levels. We'll look into the 'OFF state beacon indicator'. Thanks.

Sincerely,

ZebraLight, Inc.
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Ummmmmm. DANG! This is gonna be GOOD! :popcorn:
 
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